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RULE 08-25-2014 05:54 PM

What is stopping you from battling?
 
Simple question, and lets keep this on topic.

But, what is stopping you from battling? Why do you not have 20+ battles this month? What is the fundamental reason you arent battling?

Lets keep it 100, no doom-mongering, lets just see what pops up and go from there.

and no this doesnt mean im back u cunts. let a man provoke damn.

Shodan 08-25-2014 05:58 PM

I have to vote to get credits

Give me unlimited free credits and I promise I'll drop 30 battles a month

Tha Czar 08-25-2014 06:01 PM

Just my lazy ass :high:

RULE 08-25-2014 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleu (Post 1050656)
this doesn't apply to me interested in seeing what the people have to say tho

co-sign rainbow.. i could use some free credits specially after dropping 100+ votes this month x_x

Was literally gonna write - everyone except bleu lol. putting in work on both formats.

*salute*


@Rainbow Dash is voting really such a hardship to earn those credits tho? Ive never really heard someone complain about earning credits being an issue.

X-Calibur 08-25-2014 06:03 PM

Me personally too old been around too long my activity in the booth goes from very active to nothing ... Would be interested in the others opinions however

RULE 08-25-2014 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moni (Post 1050658)
Just my lazy ass :high:

expand on that moni. dont buy that its you being too lazy. typing forums posts aint too far a jump from typing text bars!

Shodan 08-25-2014 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 1050659)
@Rainbow Dash is voting really such a hardship to earn those credits tho? Ive never really heard someone complain about earning credits being an issue.

It is when most of the people dropping and accepting opens are so wack that it's actually difficult to determine who won

RULE 08-25-2014 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-Calibur (Post 1050660)
Me personally too old been around too long my activity in the booth goes from very active to nothing ...

C'mon dig a little deeper. Plenty of dudes have either been here longer or had more battles. Hell ive had more battles than you and i been here 3 years less.

look inside and drop a real answer X!

Shodan 08-25-2014 06:06 PM

For a serious answer, though, it's because I am a slow writer with limited time. It may look like I have a shit ton of free time on my hands, especially on the weekends, but that's an illusion because I usually don't close my browser windows when I go to do other things. @RULE, I remember you saying something along the lines of "I've never spent more than an hour on a single battle." I am not even close to that fast unless I'm sniping n00bs.

RULE 08-25-2014 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainbow Dash (Post 1050662)
It is when most of the people dropping and accepting opens are so wack that it's actually difficult to determine who won

I can agree with that answer, probably would use different terminology tho lol.

you realise you can rate cyphers to get credits too? thats an alternative if the open battles arent your taste.

lllllllllllll 08-25-2014 06:10 PM

I usually look for big battles with some older cats with build-ups.. But they act like homos..

Other than that, I'm still kicking it with LBT

I mainly focus on doing music. I can still be an active text head at anytime, just bring me some storylines & build-ups :)

RULE 08-25-2014 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainbow Dash (Post 1050664)
For a serious answer, though, it's because I am a slow writer with limited time. It may look like I have a shit ton of free time on my hands, especially on the weekends, but that's an illusion because I usually don't close my browser windows when I go to do other things. @RULE, I remember you saying something along the lines of "I've never spent more than an hour on a single battle." I am not even close to that fast unless I'm sniping n00bs.

We all write at different paces, nothing wrong with either.

Would it help you if there were some built in notepad on letsbeef? so you could write and store a few bars a day and then post a verse? Might be an idea for slower writers.


I will mention however, that ive been told (far more times than id like lol) that verses that ive keyed, literally speed-written, were better than my normal verses. I guess because instead of over-thinking, your just writing bars simply.

1/

FiNAL WoRD 08-25-2014 06:12 PM

needs more battlers in the audio section....quality battlers

FiNAL WoRD 08-25-2014 06:14 PM

round suck online bro... we can't do rounds

RULE 08-25-2014 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punk (Post 1050667)
I usually look for big battles with some older cats with build-ups.. But they act like homos..

Other than that, I'm still kicking it with LBT

I mainly focus on doing music. I can still be an active text head at anytime, just bring me some storylines & build-ups :)

Dont you think that competition breeds competition?

You cant start a battle feud if your never in the warzone. (ok you can but riff with me dammit)

a one-off battle will still be over in 3 days. sometimes entertaining battle exchanges are found when you not looking for them.

FiNAL WoRD 08-25-2014 06:15 PM

ok @ the edit.. the seeing peoples opens is retarded in my opinion

X-Calibur 08-25-2014 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 1050663)
C'mon dig a little deeper. Plenty of dudes have either been here longer or had more battles. Hell ive had more battles than you and i been here 3 years less.

look inside and drop a real answer X!

To be honest mine is completely personal ive always been an average textee ive never fully committed myself to up my game and never will its taken me this long to realise this ... And because of that i have lost the spark to battle the big boys or up my game im much happier to watch and advise others on how to reach there potential ... Theres nothing in terms of battling for me that the site doesnt offer for me to be re energised to write ... Apart from maybe the crew battles i would certainly write for those

Shodan 08-25-2014 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 1050668)
Would it help you if there were some built in notepad on letsbeef? so you could write and store a few bars a day and then post a verse? Might be an idea for slower writers.

It might help other people who are slow and/or like to be prepared to snipe at any given time. I actually do this to some extent with Google Docs, although most of what's on it is just wack snipe bars.

RULE 08-25-2014 06:17 PM

Why not just send battles to people? Final and Bleu you are both online, both active, both top tier.

Why not just send each other bars? yo could do a old-school best-of-seven series or something.

that would tick the boxes you posted (ie: wack battlers, inpersonal bars). etc etc

?

Obey 08-25-2014 06:18 PM

Lack of competition to battle, honestly. You said LB needs a king, how can their be a king when the big names aren't even fighting for the spot? Unless it's the LBT or a tourney, it's rare a dope battle appears. How am I supposed to elevate battling someone at my level, or a little higher once every couple months lol? The vets need to get off that high horse and give some of us a shot.

Shodan 08-25-2014 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleu (Post 1050678)
say.. 4 stars can only battle 4-5 stars.. then 1-2-3 stars battle each other to try to reach the upper echelon.. something like that might help shit just get interesting again idk.

ELO ratings.

ELO ratings.

ELO ratings.

Make it happen @NOBLE

---------- Post added at 05:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:18 PM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obey (Post 1050679)
Lack of competition to battle, honestly. You said LB needs a king, how can their be a king when the big names aren't even fighting for the spot? Unless it's the LBT or a tourney, it's rare a dope battle appears. How am I supposed to elevate battling someone at my level, or a little higher once every couple months lol? The vets need to get off that high horse and give some of us a shot.

Many of the vets are probably old people by now... they just aren't interested anymore or don't have the time. If DaDDiO is a GoldMic head, as @Bleu has suggested, he could easily be in his 40s and busy with other things.

RULE 08-25-2014 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-Calibur (Post 1050675)
To be honest mine is completely personal ive always been an average textee ive never fully committed myself to up my game and never will its taken me this long to realise this ... And because of that i have lost the spark to battle the big boys or up my game im much happier to watch and advise others on how to reach there potential ... Theres nothing in terms of battling for me that the site doesnt offer for me to be re energised to write ... Apart from maybe the crew battles i would certainly write for those

Its never too late to improve at something and there are plenty of tools, threads, information on this site right now to help you do so.

If talksick can win a GC 7 years after joining this site, why couldnt you? or anyone else for that matter?

its not a marathon you have to run to get better and this. the tweeks you need to make are quite simple. just gotta get started down that path.

Obey 08-25-2014 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainbow Dash (Post 1050680)
ELO ratings.

ELO ratings.

ELO ratings.

Make it happen @NOBLE

---------- Post added at 05:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:18 PM ----------



Many of the vets are probably old people by now... they just aren't interested anymore or don't have the time. If DaDDiO is a GoldMic head, as @Bleu has suggested, he could easily be in his 40s and busy with other things.

Not even just vets, heavyweights also. This site needs eye-catching battles, THAT will motivate people. Getting recognition for putting something dope out and wanting to up-the-anti on shit around here.

Shodan 08-25-2014 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obey (Post 1050684)
Not even just vets, heavyweights also. This site needs eye-catching battles, THAT will motivate people. Getting recognition for putting something dope out and wanting to up-the-anti on shit around here.

Send me 32

Obey 08-25-2014 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainbow Dash (Post 1050686)
Send me 32

How long would it take for you to respond w/ the GC coming lol. You said yourself you're a slow writer, I'm not waiting a month for a 32. If you want to write and then let me know when you're done, I could finish a 32 in a day or 2.

RULE 08-25-2014 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obey (Post 1050679)
Lack of competition to battle, honestly. You said LB needs a king, how can their be a king when the big names aren't even fighting for the spot? Unless it's the LBT or a tourney, it's rare a dope battle appears. How am I supposed to elevate battling someone at my level, or a little higher once every couple months lol? The vets need to get off that high horse and give some of us a shot.

You DONT need established heavyweights to battle to become one yourself.

It is and always has been about the bars. You start writing that fire, and it doesnt matter who your opponent is.

a one off win over a old heavyweight wont change your status one bit. it gives you a name to type when the "who u beaten" threads pop off but thats about it.

until you go on a 30+ battle run, destroying everyone of those opponents, you cannot claim there to be no competition.

i mean damn in your last 11 battles you lost 4 times. cant buy this one homie.

Shodan 08-25-2014 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obey (Post 1050687)
How long would it take for you to respond w/ the GC coming lol. You said yourself you're a slow writer, I'm not waiting a month for a 32. If you want to write and then let me know when you're done, I could finish a 32 in a day or 2.

Yeah I'm a slow writer, but if we're doing this with the sole intent of making a dope, eye-catching battle, I can set aside a few hours to get working, and several hours doing nothing but writing (I get easily distracted so it might take longer than that to finish lol) should be long enough for me to write a strong 32... I can only do that on the weekends though. So probably we could do this next weekend if you want.

RULE 08-25-2014 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleu (Post 1050685)
we need good voting going just to feel like putting on a dope battle will be worth it.. otherwise its like.. i coulda used these bars to win a title, even if only 5 people voted on the battle.

Why save bars? not like its impossible to consistantly write hot lines.

a tourney is 6 battles tops. no reason you cant have 15, 20+ hot battles a month.

& i feel you on the voting, but its a cycle. Dash said earlier he doesnt vote cause the battles suck. Now you wont have hot battles cuz no-one votes. Gotta start pedelling at one end or the other, feel me?

Obey 08-25-2014 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 1050688)
You DONT need established heavyweights to battle to become one yourself.

It is and always has been about the bars. You start writing that fire, and it doesnt matter who your opponent is.

a one off win over a old heavyweight wont change your status one bit. it gives you a name to type when the "who u beaten" threads pop off but thats about it.

until you go on a 30+ battle run, destroying everyone of those opponents, you cannot claim there to be no competition.

i mean damn in your last 11 battles you lost 4 times. cant buy this one homie.

But in my last 4 I've beaten people who've repeatedly beaten me a couple months ago. I've been elevating since I started here, and look how many votes me vs. Enfinite got.. FOUR lmao. I'm always asking people to battle, seems like Row, Bleu, Lock are the only ones who're willing to battle me. I've tried to set-up battles, I'm all about putting on a show. You go through all them battles and you try to pull out 1 that I didn't show-up at. Everyone on this site knows I'll go toe-to-toe w/ anyone. I sign up for just about every tournament.

RULE 08-25-2014 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainbow Dash (Post 1050689)
Yeah I'm a slow writer, but if we're doing this with the sole intent of making a dope, eye-catching battle, I can set aside a few hours to get working, and several hours doing nothing but writing (I get easily distracted so it might take longer than that to finish lol) should be long enough for me to write a strong 32... I can only do that on the weekends though. So probably we could do this next weekend if you want.

Sit down, set aside a hour or two and get writing a nice verse. good way to do it.

Tha Czar 08-25-2014 06:29 PM

@RULE well it's half of that reason tbh. Other half is me going back to what I said before about how we have all these tournaments out and nobody is doing anything about it so that forces me to lazy because when I join a tourney, I get motivated to do my best. You have a dope lineup joining and you expected to write your best. However, it's been on the first round for almost a month now and only 2-3 people have submitted and the rest end up no showing for whatever reason. then that motivation is gone. The voting is a bit of a problem but not that big of an issue to me. It's all about getting the right group together. Doesn't mean to self vote but they have those FV Clubs for a reason.

Take that audio topical, say if I did move on to the next round, they are people out here that actually have lives like school, kids, jobs, and some people can't get their verse in on time so they try to have free time I write and sometimes rushed due to deadlines so you end up half-assing it then post it.. then the player glitches and still nothing has yet to be done about it to fix it and I understand that the person involved for it is a busy man himself but I'm sure somewhere down the line, it could be fixed. Idk how it is to fix so I have to take consideration in that as well but either way, motivation is lost again. I can say the last time I was motivated to battle was prolly when I got back from my ban and to regain rep through hard work whether if I win or lose. I planned to join multiple tourneys, battle or tracks, to get back into the groove of things but they end up halting it's process after the first round and it feels like centuries to get it back going. So yeah, pretty much my case.

SAND 08-25-2014 06:31 PM

There's no right way for me to answer this.

I feel I'm better at longer line length battles, but I rarely have the motivation to write 32 lines, yet once in a blue moon I'll drop a 32 line open on my other acc & a noob snatches it up, which disheartens me cuz I'm usually just fuckin around & I turn out to have a couple of dope lines here & there, & it's not like I can turn my "Fuck around switch" on & off at a moments notice, otherwise I'd be ranked a bit higher

Anyways, I'm pretty much in the same boat as X

RULE 08-25-2014 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obey (Post 1050691)
But in my last 4 I've beaten people who've repeatedly beaten me a couple months ago. I've been elevating since I started here, and look how many votes me vs. Enfinite got.. FOUR lmao. I'm always asking people to battle, seems like Row, Bleu, Lock are the only ones who're willing to battle me. I've tried to set-up battles, I'm all about putting on a show. You go through all them battles and you try to pull out 1 that I didn't show-up at. Everyone on this site knows I'll go toe-to-toe w/ anyone. I sign up for just about every tournament.

Still tho going on a 4-battle unbeaten run doesnt mean theres a lack of competition.

you start beating these guys EVERY time and i'll concede. But lack of competition aint something i can co-sign atm.

You were talking about that lb needs a king thing earlier. why the hell aint you tryna take it? If i walking into a rumble and all the dudes in it were puny little punks, best believe im walking out with the W. If theres a lack of competition, why arent you the undisputed champ?

go get it obie.

Obey 08-25-2014 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 1050696)
Still tho going on a 4-battle unbeaten run doesnt mean theres a lack of competition.

you start beating these guys EVERY time and i'll concede. But lack of competition aint something i can co-sign atm.

You were talking about that lb needs a king thing earlier. why the hell aint you tryna take it? If i walking into a rumble and all the dudes in it were puny little punks, best believe im walking out with the W. If theres a lack of competition, why arent you the undisputed champ?

go get it obie.

I'm gonna try to solidify it during this next GC. Think I'm finding my groove, stay tuned.

Lockhart 08-25-2014 06:35 PM

I would like to think that I keep a great level of activity going. I've battled 10 times this month against fairly good names across the board (my only loss being @remarK, which is nothing to be ashamed of). However, I look at how I could easily become a Bnas, Snoopy316, or a MaCc type of battler, and I feel that if I become like that, then I will get lazy with my own craft (which I feel I'm slowly starting to find it) and I don't want to risk getting comfortable with being #1 or #2 every month when I should be facing more quality opponents.

And yes I understand that who I face shouldn't change my level of writing for that certain opponent, but the fact is, it does. It does for all of us, and that's a habit that will be hard for ALL of us to kick.

Just my $0.02

EDIT: I also dropped a diss cypher dissing a very, VERY bitch made GC who ducked my 16 (not naming names).

RULE 08-25-2014 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moni (Post 1050693)
@RULE well it's half of that reason tbh. Other half is me going back to what I said before about how we have all these tournaments out and nobody is doing anything about it so that forces me to lazy because when I join a tourney, I get motivated to do my best. You have a dope lineup joining and you expected to write your best. However, it's been on the first round for almost a month now and only 2-3 people have submitted and the rest end up no showing for whatever reason. then that motivation is gone. The voting is a bit of a problem but not that big of an issue to me. It's all about getting the right group together. Doesn't mean to self vote but they have those FV Clubs for a reason.

Take that audio topical, say if I did move on to the next round, they are people out here that actually have lives like school, kids, jobs, and some people can't get their verse in on time so they try to have free time I write and sometimes rushed due to deadlines so you end up half-assing it then post it.. then the player glitches and still nothing has yet to be done about it to fix it and I understand that the person involved for it is a busy man himself but I'm sure somewhere down the line, it could be fixed. Idk how it is to fix so I have to take consideration in that as well but either way, motivation is lost again. I can say the last time I was motivated to battle was prolly when I got back from my ban and to regain rep through hard work whether if I win or lose. I planned to join multiple tourneys, battle or tracks, to get back into the groove of things but they end up halting it's process after the first round and it feels like centuries to get it back going. So yeah, pretty much my case.

dont let a badly-run tourney or a site glitch stop you from competing. i know it can be a pain in the ass but truth be told once tourneys are not the be all and end all of letsbeef. you should wanna write your best every battle. treat it like every battle you do could be the one someone sees/reads that makes them judge YOU. like a wise man once told me, treat every opponent the same, and you'll never be dissapointed in yourself.

put that work in moni. i seen people come back from far more drama than you, to become respected, top tier battlers.

RULE 08-25-2014 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarSand (Post 1050695)
There's no right way for me to answer this.

I feel I'm better at longer line length battles, but I rarely have the motivation to write 32 lines, yet once in a blue moon I'll drop a 32 line open on my other acc & a noob snatches it up, which disheartens me cuz I'm usually just fuckin around & I turn out to have a couple of dope lines here & there, & it's not like I can turn my "Fuck around switch" on & off at a moments notice, otherwise I'd be ranked a bit higher

Anyways, I'm pretty much in the same boat as X

you being better at longer-line battles implies that you could do with improving and lower-length ones.

and they say practice makes perfect... feel me?

RULE 08-25-2014 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -James- (Post 1050699)
I would like to think that I keep a great level of activity going. I've battled 10 times this month against fairly good names across the board (my only loss being @remarK, which is nothing to be ashamed of). However, I look at how I could easily become a Bnas, Snoopy316, or a MaCc type of battler, and I feel that if I become like that, then I will get lazy with my own craft (which I feel I'm slowly starting to find it) and I don't want to risk getting comfortable with being #1 or #2 every month when I should be facing more quality opponents.

And yes I understand that who I face shouldn't change my level of writing for that certain opponent, but the fact is, it does. It does for all of us, and that's a habit that will be hard for ALL of us to kick.

Just my $0.02

It doesnt for all of us i can assure you mate. and battling a lot wont make you lazy unless you allow it to do so.

Find the flaws in your writing and focus soely on them when you write. Bad at scheming? then make your next 8 a scheme verse. bad at wordplay? then get that wordplay on!

battling alot doesnt make you lazy, nor less skilled. As long as you continue to push yourself to better your weaknesses.

1/

Lockhart 08-25-2014 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 1050703)
It doesnt for all of us i can assure you mate. and battling a lot wont make you lazy unless you allow it to do so.

Find the flaws in your writing and focus soely on them when you write. Bad at scheming? then make your next 8 a scheme verse. bad at wordplay? then get that wordplay on!

battling alot doesnt make you lazy, nor less skilled. As long as you continue to push yourself to better your weaknesses.

1/

I'm afraid that creating wordplay is my biggest crutch, so I'm going to hop on that.

FiNAL WoRD 08-25-2014 06:44 PM

if @RULE co-runs the LBA with me or a mod so people will actually hop in then i could assure some sort of activity.. i mean its almost been 3 months and none of the mods have picked the lba up and ran with it? 2 events a month in the lba with a proving ground.. j.s... and fuck it i also vouche to be more active coming this month.. i will be droppin battles and making callout threads.. that is all


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