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J u s T C 07-23-2014 04:12 PM

Titles...
 
This is NOBLES Thread. Shit got fucked up Just run with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOBLE (Post 1044543)
There seems to be two different mentalities here when it comes to titles and I'm just trying to see which is the more popular one.

ARGUMENT #1: There are too many titles floating around. Titles are one of the main incentives for people trying to win tourneys. When you have so many titles to the point where everyone seems to have one, it reduces the value of having one. Also, having so many tournaments where someone can earn a title means people end up not taking the tournament as seriously as they otherwise might have. If they miss it or no-show it, they'll just tell themselves "well, I'll get an opportunity to win another title next week."

ARGUMENT #2: We can never have too many titles or too many tournaments that offer titles. That's almost the only thing still keeping this place afloat because of the activity it sparks. More tournaments which offer titles also means more chances and opportunities for people to win something and that's a good thing.

I hope I represented the gist of both arguments equally well. Where do you stand in regards to this? Vote on the poll.

Catch 22.

Iron Mike 07-23-2014 04:13 PM

Titles...
 
There seems to be two different mentalities here when it comes to titles and I'm just trying to see which is the more popular one.

ARGUMENT #1: There are too many titles floating around. Titles are one of the main incentives for people trying to win tourneys. When you have so many titles to the point where everyone seems to have one, it reduces the value of having one. Also, having so many tournaments where someone can earn a title means people end up not taking the tournament as seriously as they otherwise might have. If they miss it or no-show it, they'll just tell themselves "well, I'll get an opportunity to win another title next week."

ARGUMENT #2: We can never have too many titles or too many tournaments that offer titles. That's almost the only thing still keeping this place afloat because of the activity it sparks. More tournaments which offer titles also means more chances and opportunities for people to win something and that's a good thing.

I hope I represented the gist of both arguments equally well. Where do you stand in regards to this? Vote on the poll.

Student 07-23-2014 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sun God (Post 1044545)
There seems to be two different mentalities here when it comes to titles and I'm just trying to see which is the more popular one.

ARGUMENT #1: There are too many titles floating around. Titles are one of the main incentives for people trying to win tourneys. When you have so many titles to the point where everyone seems to have one, it reduces the value of having one. Also, having so many tournaments where someone can earn a title means people end up not taking the tournament as seriously as they otherwise might have. If they miss it or no-show it, they'll just tell themselves "well, I'll get an opportunity to win another title next week."

ARGUMENT #2: We can never have too many titles or too many tournaments that offer titles. That's almost the only thing still keeping this place afloat because of the activity it sparks. More tournaments which offer titles also means more chances and opportunities for people to win something and that's a good thing.

I hope I represented the gist of both arguments equally well. Where do you stand in regards to this? Vote on the poll.

Catch 22.

Obey 07-23-2014 04:16 PM

There's always pros and cons to these situations. I do feel Titles have lost their value due to the green ones. It makes the mind-set: ''I'm not battling unless I can win a title.'' I think there should only be MAYBE, 2 green titles that float around. 2 SET tournaments that every month battle to keep it so it's not permanent. Other than that, nothing but Orange, Blue, HOF, ETK (the most-important.) Keeps the prestige value to them. Other than that, they should be wiped.

Nicholas 07-23-2014 04:16 PM

There is no black and white. Green titles were a mistake though and forum tournaments should be rewarded with awards.

Enfinite 07-23-2014 04:18 PM

^Agreed. I think there's a good amount of Orange and blues.
Orange being, Topical, One Bar, Scheme, Tag Team, and possibly the Theme.

Blue being the LBT/LBA and all the GC Variants.

When really, only 6 or so titles go out a year, 2 blues normally, 4 oranges.
I say the Green one aren't important, I've never been a fan of green titles, only official titles. And right now only a few cats seem to be actually winning titles. So it's not like there's a title getting dropped on every person.

I also forgot the ATT as an Orange title.

Supsie 07-23-2014 04:24 PM

I think it's cool seeing all the diffrent titles.

AfterThought 07-23-2014 04:28 PM

Have titles for official tournaments & official forum events only (LBT etc), basically have titles only for anything that happens weekly/monthly/annually, anything that doesn't just happen once (like the Who Got Barz tournament, @Just C :D)

Saxx 07-23-2014 04:29 PM

I ain't got one...but then I don't have that much interest in tourneys tbh...

I don't think there's too many and everyone that has one is worthy imo

J u s T C 07-23-2014 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AfterThought (Post 1044558)
Have titles for official tournaments & official forum events only (LBT etc), basically have titles only for anything that happens weekly/monthly/annually, anything that doesn't just happen once (like the Who Got Barz tournament, @Just C :D)

lol the fact you even got the name wrong says a lot. I wouldn't be mad if I got my title stripped if people want less titles.

Row 07-23-2014 04:34 PM

thats why there are different fuckin colors , shit. even titles that change your name color. Titles keep ppl moving; motivated and reducing that will reduce activity tenfold. If ya want, just make the more meaningful titles have a name color feature or some shit as well.


bitches saw my titles and are hating

Iron Mike 07-23-2014 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AfterThought (Post 1044558)
Have titles for official tournaments & official forum events only (LBT etc), basically have titles only for anything that happens weekly/monthly/annually, anything that doesn't just happen once (like the Who Got Barz tournament, @Just C :D)

That wouldn't limit the amount of titles though. Everyone who wants a title for their tourney would only then say they'll run it annually and petition to make it official.

Student 07-23-2014 04:52 PM

These Should Be The Only Titles Given:
Administrator
Moderator
Patriarch
Forum Moderator
Hall Of Famer
Grand Champion
Live Battler
LBT/LBA Champion
Secondary Champion
Fair Voters Club
V.I.P.
Exclusive Member

Also,I Think Hall Of Famers Should Have A Gold Username (And Gold Title To Not Be The Same As Live Battlers) Unless They're A Forum Moderator, Patriarch, Moderator Or Administrator.
The Fair Voters Club Members User Name Shouldn't Be Italicized Same Goes For Forum Moderators, It's Unnecessary.

Notice I Put The LBT/LBA A Different Color As I Think It Should Be To Distinguish Between Grand Champions And The Current LBT/LBA Champion Because It Changes.

Only People With Custom Titles Should Be Current Staff Members, Patriarch And V.I.P. (Donors).

Even Though I Think They're Too Many Colored User Names, If The FVC Is Going To Get A Colored Name So Should Secondary Champions (Or Don't Call Them Champions) And LBA/LBT Champions Who Don't Have A Higher Title.

I Think Forum Run Tournaments / Games Shouldn't Get A Title (Especially Because A Lot Of Forum Tournaments Have The Word "Champion" In Them) But Keep The Contest Titles.

I'm For Scratching Custom Titles If Everyone Has To, Although I Personally Think My Fellow Patriarchs And I Along With The Current Staff Members Have Earned Our Respective Custom Titles. Donors Deserve One Because They Actually Gave Money (Although It Should Be More Then The Cost Of Exclusive Membership)

Mayneak 07-23-2014 05:09 PM

You only have to look at the staff forums to know how I feel lol.

If your staying active for 25+ tournaments a year then your staying active for the wrong reasons. Battle coz you like to battle, not just for a few extra characters that nobody gives a fuck about. I guess it's one of the reasons the GC Tournaments were so good a while back. People wanted that GC title coz it held value. I say held coz for most people it'll just be ANOTHER tournament.

Hate to be blunt but that's how I see it :high:

Row 07-23-2014 05:13 PM

remove the sucking-dick-esque patriach ones

J u s T C 07-23-2014 05:25 PM

Pretty much what Mayneak said.

There are too many titles. But it feels like the only reason people battle these days is because they feel they're in with a decent shout of grabbing 1 for themselves because so many of them are up for grabs so often.

Shit like this was a none issue back in the day. People used to battle because they wanted to and when that GC came around it felt like something epic and special. The buzz around it and the spin offs from it. The banter. Emotions steming into tracks and all kinds of exposing was quality.

Now because there's so many tourneys knocking about it's a lot easier to lose interest and any kind of hype or investment because there's always the next 1.

When it was just the GC that was all or nothing. It was what you had been waiting for. Your 1 chance to be grouped with the select few who had won it prior.

That simply isn't the case anymore and the effect is the same in terms of those who have won it.

No offence but I see some Big winners these days and I just don't hold them in the same esteem as I used to with winners from years ago. because they're being thrown around like candy.

Not saying those guys couldn't have won back in the day, it's simply down to over saturation.

I also think people no showing could be due partly to so many tournaments/titles.

Again. there's always the next 1 mentality.

But take them away and the site will be more dead because..well shit aint happening.

The site has "spoilt" them. You can't revert back now.

The Dope Man 07-23-2014 05:29 PM

i agree with @Row titles add incentive to those tourneys that aren't as big as the GC, people know they aren't as valuable because of the color & the competition within the tourney.

The only titles that should be removed are the Mafia Winner titles. Those have nothing to do with battling.

If you take away the green titles then those tourneys will disappear.

And there is still a shit ton of decent battlers that have no title whats so ever.

IMO there should be titles given out monthly for the top 10. That'll add alot more activity. I know it should be quality over quantity but you still gotta give props for droppin 50+ battles a month and winning most of them.

Should bring back the Hall Of Shame titles...

---------- Post added at 05:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:27 PM ----------

@Just C the GC still has that importance over all of the other titles. And Is highly valuable compared to the other green titles.

AfterThought 07-23-2014 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just C (Post 1044562)
lol the fact you even got the name wrong says a lot. I wouldn't be mad if I got my title stripped if people want less titles.

I actually meant MY Who Got BARZ title, the one I beat you for way back. :(

& yeah I agree with most of the above.

The Dope Man 07-23-2014 05:30 PM

i feel like we have the perfect amouth of titles

Thought 07-23-2014 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AfterThought (Post 1044580)
I actually meant MY Who Got BARZ title, the one I beat you for way back. :(

& yeah I agree with most of the above.

<-- This one right here. :high:

AfterThought 07-23-2014 05:35 PM

Official championship
Scheme championship
Theme championship
One bar championship
Tag Team championship
Exclusive King
LBT

^If that goes for text, then it looks pretty good IMO, that still is a lot of titles, but still cuts down alotta shit.

EDIT: Mafia Winner titles should be stripped for instance. Have the game for emcee items instead.

EDIT #2: I like @Student's idea of changing the LBT/LBA title color, to keep the GC color strictly for the GC.

J u s T C 07-23-2014 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AfterThought (Post 1044580)
I actually meant MY Who Got BARZ title, the one I beat you for way back. :(

& yeah I agree with most of the above.

Yeah crossed wires. who got barz, who got beef. But yeah I remember. I shoulda took that no show when I had the chance. :D

AfterThought 07-23-2014 05:39 PM

#BringJustCBackToText

Denton 07-23-2014 06:04 PM

Keep Mafia Titles :D

Dean 07-23-2014 06:10 PM

I think mafia titles should be royal blue tbh.

Lockhart 07-23-2014 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean (Post 1044594)
I think mafia titles should be royal blue tbh.

I think they should be strawberry red :cool:

Student 07-23-2014 06:17 PM

I Think Awards Should Be Utilized More Instead Of Titles For The Following:
LBT/LBA Champion
Secondary Champion
Fair Voters Club
V.I.P.
Exclusive Member
Contests

V3numb 07-23-2014 06:35 PM

i like the blue titkes, blue should be for forums games or somthing, orange and blue for the obc as well as yellow and then green for forum based tournies

Hubert Cumberdale 07-23-2014 06:54 PM

I'm been moaning about it for over a year now. No point in me dropping my thoughts AGAIN.

Denton 07-23-2014 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 1044600)
I'm been moaning about it for over a year now. No point in me dropping my thoughts AGAIN.

But.. But we want you to

Proctologist 07-23-2014 07:22 PM

i thought this thread said tities

Lockhart 07-23-2014 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Student (Post 1044568)

Only People With Custom Titles Should Be Current Staff Members, Patriarch And V.I.P. (Donors).

This would mean that people like Bnas, MaCc, and LoGiKK would be moderators, which is a big no-go.

---------- Post added at 06:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:29 PM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proctologist (Post 1044620)
i thought this thread said tities

Do your job. You're not supposed to think of titties.

V3numb 07-23-2014 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lockhart (Post 1044621)
This would mean that people like Bnas, MaCc, and LoGiKK would be moderators, which is a big no-go.

---------- Post added at 06:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:29 PM ----------



Do your job. You're not supposed to think of titties.

they are donators.. he said it as 3 separate groups not 1 giant mass of title reasons for each user lol

Lockhart 07-23-2014 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V3numb (Post 1044634)
they are donators.. he said it as 3 separate groups not 1 giant mass of title reasons for each user lol

Alright cool. Thanks for clarifying. I was on the verge of doing the angry finger wag at that one.

NatsHubby 07-24-2014 06:12 AM

Give me a title

OSKAR 07-24-2014 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just C (Post 1044587)
Yeah crossed wires. who got barz, who got beef. But yeah I remember. I shoulda took that no show when I had the chance. :D

IT WAS ME AND AT IN THE FINAL FOR THAT TITLE YOU DELUSIONAL CUNTS!

OSKAR 07-24-2014 06:30 AM

Here is where I stand with titles.

GREEN TITLES:

We scratch all the Green titles (MAFIA WINNER, NBA CHAMP INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMP ETC.). Green titles should only be given to those who won one of Pugz's official contests. Anyone who wants to run a forum tourney will be allowed to do as he please but he won't be allowed to give out any green titles or emcee items. He should think of his own prizes and what he can do himself to award his winner. (EG if he can play around with photoshop he can make like a small signature for the winner, if he wants to give out money let him do that).

OFFICIAL TITLES

We should vote on which tourneys we wanna keep/add/remove. So far the only yearly Tournament titles I'd like to have are:

Theme Champion
Scheme Champion
Topical Champion
Tag Team Champion

Grand Champion
LBA/LBT Champion

The idea of limiting a GC per year also's on my mind. We got Video GC, Audio GC and Text GC so 3 GCs per year will make it more special rather than 6. Limiting them to three will also encourage people to try out different sections of the site which'll boost activity everywhere, instead of JUST having the text side active

USERTITLES:

Well I think we already ontop of that. But I'm adding it just to be cool. IF YOU HAVEN'T DONATED YOU DON'T GET ONE......there....I'm cool

Exclusive Titles:

For tournament run by Nicholas I think we should have titles. We got the exclusive member title so if someone wins an exclusive tourney the word member gets replaced by king or some shit..so we got Exclusive Member -> Exclusive King

FVC Titles:

I am not a fan of the FVC having a title or a colored name as it is. People complain about people in the FVC not doing their job fully, so like an award or something in their signatrue to indicate that they are FVC instead of the color'd name and the title will be better imo

V3numb 07-24-2014 07:10 AM

how would one represent being fc when dropping a vote on their battle if the colored names and titles arent implemented? i say keep the color named and titles for fvc

nd on behalf of all Mafi winners i say fuck you :pimp:

OSKAR 07-24-2014 07:15 AM

I don't know...I haven't figured out answers to everything..For the time being I'm expressing my personal displeasures (how pro did that sound?)

And fuck the mafia titles..

Hubert Cumberdale 07-24-2014 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Denton (Post 1044610)
But.. But we want you to

You don't really though. About 8 months ago I dropped an idea to revamp the awards and fix the usertitles. Everyone agreed. Fuck all happened. You know how everyone said "Yeah this credits revamp idea is dope EtH", has a single mod mentioned this in the staff lounge? Have they fuck. I'm sick of knowing exactly how to help the site and no one giving a fuck about it. It's like the staff would rather the site completely dies over letting going of their stubborn nature and actually listening.


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