Shouldn't have bought Skyrim again...
 

Shit just sucks your life away. How can a game be so perfect?

It's not. It sucks.

But if you like everyone having the same voice actor giving you boring generic fetch quests where you pick up boring loot along the way which is never better than the shit you craft yourself, then yeah, I suppose it is perfect.

i downloaded the game.. and it sucks almost as bad as the one i bough 2 versions prior.. i mean it's okay but.. it's so slow paced and boring.. i want a real game.. borderlands 2 or somthing.. humor, action, and some bit of story.. skyrim it just ugh.. okay let's jumpy on the bandwagon lol


i mean if u like it well then cool, but i preff something appealing.. i only played an hour and it was pretty dreadful idk man

I used to like RPG's... Fable, Guild Wars etc. but I avoid games other than the occasional game of Fifa now for exactly the reason you posted. They're just a time suck. I don't even own a console any more.

i rarely play video games any more. Its all about making beats and rap

Maaan, I seem like I'm complaining about EVERYTHING on here.

I hated Skyrim tbh. I'll start with what I liked about it...

The living breathing world is AMAZING. The fact that if you don't marry some dude, he dies forever because the town he lives in is too cold. Crazy. Killing pretty much any character. Depending on where you do it, they stay dead. INSANE amounts of gameplay. All of that stuff is awesome.

That's about it though. I found the gameplay to be extremely repetitive. Mission sends you to a cave miles away. Once you get there, you either use decent magic, pretty bad archery or terrible boring melee. I have NO concept of how the game still requires you to load into each building. This was something GTA 4 managed to completely eradicate, and this was a game made a good few years prior. The storyline to me was relatively boring. Some of the side missions were interesting, but the main arch sucked. I killed a dragon like an hour into the game, so that whole amazing "Shit, dragons" feeling was gone instantly.

None the less, I've had very few games to play recently and I was considering getting it for the crazy good amounts of gameplay.



If GTA could adopt the Skyrim "the world is alive" aspect, it'd be the greatest game that could ever be made.

Very hipster of you, @Just C and @V3numb.

Bethesda studios has a simplistic approach to game-making, I don't mind the sparse work in the voice acting. Character building was still a huge project within the game and the map was unmatched vastly in detail and size by any game prior to it. Sorry but the stat/skill build system is nigh-on perfect for building a spec character and there's more quests, random happenings and intermittent bursts of chaos to keep it interesting throughout.

If anything, GTAV is overrated. THAT shit got boring fast.

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With all due respect, you have no place in this thread then.

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I suppose they compliment each others flaws. GTAV gameplay barely changed from its predecessor. Skyrim really encapsulated everything it was aiming for, now there's Elder Scrolls: Online which is apparently flawless.

I have to disagree with you with the repetitive gameplay. There's cave missions, which are a forefront of the game, but there's a huge variety of enemies, traps and puzzles within that alone. Then there's cult missions, equipment/item-finding missions, assassin missions (Dark Brotherhood), thief missions, magic missions... These take place either in various different towns, different buildings, sewers, mountains. Not to mention joining the Stormcloak rebellion or the Imperials and fighting battles in that respect. To be honest, I also think people get too stuck in the "Paladin" character pattern which is just magic/fighting.

Arcane-assassin ftw.

A game with absolutely none of the budget, in a similar setting, that will blow Skyrim out of the water will be Telltale Games' Game Of Thrones.

lol well i've played skyrim before...the game is alright but i'm more of a GTA type of person.

naw man im not on the hipster thing, lol i just have my own tase, i loveeee me a RPG tbh but i cant sink myself into it for some reason.. eerything just seems so gray and bland imo (that might be because the BGM.. im used to high pitch themed songs in the BG during my boss fights while im busting ultimates or summons lmaooo)

Can one of you explain to me what the specific different of Skyrim and GTA is to make Skyrim an RPG? In my mind, EVERY game is a Role Playing Game.

On the MMA site I post on, it's the epitome of hipsterism. Not a single guy on there plays a non indie console game, and the majority of them are guys who put over a grand into their PC and yet still claims it's superior to consoles.

basically anything that gives you choices like good/evil, option A,b,c or the optoins to apply points into skills or some shit


and Console<PC

It is, as it sounds. You have a specific character and you play a role examples would be; Runescape, World of Warcraft, Guild Wars, Fable, Zelda. Examples of non-role playing games would be; Fifa, Burnout, Tekken. I think the line is often muddied though, I see your point.

You can't praise GTA 4 for letting you walk into little buildings with absolutely fuck all going on inside them using no load screens for them over Skyrim needing load screens to load huge dungeons crammed with detail.

And nah not hipster shit. The game is generic as fuck. The only good thing about Skyrim is the world and the lore and even the lore is presented poorly outside books. You speak to 10 different guys and they all drone on in the same swatzernega accent the yarl of windhelm does. The writing is dry as fuck and the voice actors are dire.

I've probably put a few hundred hours into Skyrim including the DLC over the years. It's not a poor game but it has huge issues and is stupidly over rated.

Vitriol. Have you ever played Morrowind or Oblivion?

I get the feeling you haven't.

Just C, there is nothing happening in the Skyrim buildings either. Essentially, all that's going on is people walking around.

Let's take one dungeon I kind of remember into account.

A werewolf attacks you, some monster things spawn in a room, a trap in a door way is there and in the main room a boss comes from a coffin and you have to kill him. The dungeon is pretty huge, but nothing is actually happening. In douche gaming language, the werewolf is just an enemy spawning from a trigger. The monsters are just several enemies spawning from a trigger. The trap is just an animation coming from a trigger with a damage effect on it. Main boss is trigger / animation / spawn enemy. It's not complex.

Skyrim is dope..

Thats more than you'll find walking into a block of flats in GTA 4. GTA 4 was notoriously dull and lacking. If GTA 4 Enterable buildings needed loading screens everyone would be screeming scandal. There was absolutely nothing to them.

Skyrim for all it's faults the dungeons and buildings are meticulously crafted with decorations art work and lootable. Please stop man this is your dumbest argument yet lol.

If I put my side and you put your side to people who have played both games you'd be lucky to get 1% agreeing with you.

@ViTRiOL Elder Scrolls Online is absolute ass.
Skyrim was my least favorite of the elder scrolls. I found myself dedicating a lot more to Oblivion and Morrowind whereas skyrim I went through the story, did a few sides and then retired.

Skyrim and GTA arent all that but if you had to pick one thats better, Skyrim shits on GTA. & I fucked with GTA more than I fucked with Skyrim. Can't deny the detail put into a game thats so vast with so many items and quests and things to do. In Skyrim you can follow someone and see what they do throughout the whole day. Follow em to work, back home, etc etc. Thats crazy attention to detail right there


but like someone said earlier its just fetch quests and maybe a good 100 base items that are re-skinned ie; "Peasant Armor"..... "Knight Armor"... "Iron Sword"... "Steel Sword"...So there's a shitload of items but they're really just a handful of items copy+pasted, reskinned and renamed... & Once you beat the story its over

I ALWAYS buy games with multiplayer. I bought Skyrim and sold it..it was the only game I bought without multiplayer and its just horrible. I need replay value.

I can put 100 hours into a game I spent $60 on and say it was worth the money...but I don't like doin that shit so I'd rather spend $60 on a game I can play online for an hour or 2 a day

btw Dave I'll take a stab in the dark and guess that MMA site is sherdog

I didn't say anything about GTA having anything in their buildings, you've attatched this random thing to what I'm saying.

The fact is, Skyrim has no where near enough stuff to require loading screens. You say there is nothing in a GTA building, fair enough....but while you are inside the building every single thing outside of it is still happening. Car and pedestrian random spawns. Random sounds. Weather systems. Police' view etc. etc.

I was under the impression that Skyrim does way more loading than GTA does

the fact that you cant go into buildings in GTA only strengthens the point that its not THAT detailed. You can model cars after real brands/logos..you can increase the landscape by twice the size...but if everything is empty and just aesthetical what is there to load really

Skyrim is just a much bigger game with way more to do tbh

& I know GTA has a shitload of game modes and mini games..but you load one of em up and you've loaded them all up lol

If you're not modding Skyrim you have no clue what you're missing.

And subsequently are a console-fag.

I've played both, ain't no pontificating going on here.

I was going to say that Morrowind and Oblivion were heavily storyline based.

Skyrim allows you to craft a fuller character and has a broader spectrum of playing styles. Alchemy, for one. Most realistic range of herbs and ingredients with endless possibilities. I think maybe I'm enticed by the immense detail rather than the instant reward system you see in most games.

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THANK you.

And referring to @Dave's earlier point... PCs are superior to consoles by a country mile. Get a good, maybe even a decent graphics card, play something like Shogun II and tell me there that anything on a console beats the experience.

I'm definitely slightly Aspergic. I can't quite stop delving into the little subsystems of Skyrim. I'll harvest the shit out of a mountain flower, mix that with some fucking gorgeous Tundra cotton and poison a fucking cunt with a fucking Orcish arrow through the skull.

I'd still say that 99% of people that say Skyrim is overrated doesn't even touch half of the game: Plays the story, two-handed/one-handed, heavy armour then acts like there's nothing to it.

there is honestly no question as to which is superior, it's like combating a game boy advanced with an Xbox one. The only thing that justifies the playing of an xbox/playstation is your preference towards them, everyone has their opinions, simply liking one more is totally fine, but to state that a playstation or xbox is better than a PC (even bought with the same amount of money as the consoles) is factually wrong. I'm waiting for someone to challenge this point, too, so I can prove them wrong.

Skyrim is definitely a master-piece. I played it for hours on end until I could say in confidence that I had done almost everything there was to do, then, when I was exposed to the wonderful & mystifying world of modding, I did that same process over again about 5 more times.

You can mod for consoles. And modding shouldn't come into whether a game is good or not. That isn't even Bethesdas work that's the communitys like Nexus ect.

You can mod consoles to a certain extent with either iso discs or USB modding, but it is completely impossible to input mods that add all new content/textures to a console because their platform doesn't support any new meshes/textures/content that exceed the limits of the original game. That, and modding a game for the xbox breaks it's service rights code, and breaches rules under piracy (Which is complete bullshit.) and if you are caught doing so you will be banned. It's bullshit, and only attests to how terrible the service is.

The fact that the modding community for skyrim is so extensive definitely makes the game better. It's literally like getting an unlimited supply of DLC for free at any time, and even being able to create personalized DLC for yourself/friends with an easy to use creation kit. I mean, there were mods for Skyrim DLC that did the exact same things the DLC did (I'm talking about hearthfire, that made you have the ability to make a home.) months before it came out, and those mods were even free & didn't have the same bullshit limits..

Modding plays a definite role on bettering a game. Which would you rather play?

A game where new and fresh content is defined by overpriced DLC that the developers come out with maybe twice a year?

Or a game where new and fresh content is defined by thousands of people in the community constantly pumping out ever evolving content that you can get completely for free with the click of a button, that come out literally hundreds of times a week?

I'll let you choose.

PC gaming is like 1000 bucks for a console. No thanks.

Also it's sooo much more boring and alone. I don't even really enjoy playing most games 1 player.

That is completely false.
The budget for an xbox one:
Console: $500
Lets say you want ONLY two games to play too, also, for the sake of argument let's say these are new games. That's roughly $60.00 a piece, so add $120 to the table.

That's $620 dollars, but fuck it, let's subtract that down to $600.
JUST with this budget you can get a gaming pc that can surpass the bullshit processor/graphics that an xbox one can give. Don't believe me? Here's the PC's components:
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3iZxQ

Now if you guys know random useless information about computers like I do you'd know that the MSI Radeon r9 270X graphics card averages at 84 FPS. The xbox one averages at 40-60 FPS.

Also, just yesterday Steam had 6 million gamers online. That's hardly alone by anyone's standards.

I never got what ANY of the extra stuff like graphics card info is important. It's better? Cool....how though?

I've played Metal Gear Solid on a HD wide screen on my PS3. Not freezing, no nothing. In which way are PC gamers improving on this?

PC gaming is cool if you're a MMO kind of guy. But all that fantasy Runescape WOW whatever stuff isn't really for me. My computer doesnt freeze and gives me what seem to be crystal clear graphics of an incredible level (depending on the game). Why do I need anything else?

actually.. you can build a stronger pc than a console for ike 400-500..

and no.. shooters on pc is actually a lot more hardcore compared to console as well
ppl play way more than just MMOs, i mean that may be what you see but it's evolved way beyond that tbh

i mean yeah pc has better graphics but Steam (online store for games and server that runs games) has MASSIVE SALES, they sold Dead Space 3 for "$1" alongside 2 other games i think just for the community, and off the bat most games are cheaper than a console as welll (PC) 50$ vs 60$ (console), if those things dont bother you then cool stick with a console then

also i like the fact you can mod games : /, FPS and graphics takes the cake for me.. if im playing a SHooter like Titanfall i need me my frames on point for my headshots or else it's gona be some BS me shooting across the map and it was a miliframe off or some shit, while games like metal gear revengeance or mainly DMC.. i need my frames on point in order to keep my combos fluent (and i have DMC for my ps3 too.. and believe me my combos are wayyyy more sync)





pc= room for improvement, and potential to surpass from the get go,



console - prebuild and you're stuck with everything it came with.. cant swap anything out, they are just plug+play easily conveyance is all





in the end they are becoming more and more alike, but will never be equl do to the freedom of pc, while consoles company's are greedy and will give you w.e they can for w.e deals they can work out between cheap suppliers and productions

Well, pretty much every computer in the world come with the components that are listed in the link above. You can just interchange parts with desktops like legos essentially. You want stuff to open faster? Upgrade your processor. You want better graphics and smoother gameplay in your video games? Upgrade your graphics card. You want more memory? Upgrade your hard-drive. Want your computer to boot things up in a fraction of a second? Get an SSD. A "gaming computer" is just higher quality versions of the components every computer has. You can just buy a shitty ass dell desktop and put gaming pc parts into it.

As for the MGS3 thing, essentially, and I'm aware of how cocky this sounds, it would be better all around providing you had the rig I linked. That graphics card I linked would make it play at about 70 FPS, which you can just google the differences between PS3 FPS and a quality gaming PC FPS and it'll give you a side-by-side screen to see how much better that is. Also, having it on a PC opens up the opportunity for a much wider array of mesh and texture implementations, meaning that the graphics themselves would be in more detail/clearer on the PC. You'd be able to play it "faster" because of the ram that the computer I linked has. There's so much more I'm finding it hard to even pinpoint the highlights. You can get ENB's for the game, you can get certain beneficial addons for the game because it's on the PC format, pretty much you can just do about anything. You could easily just plug a PS3 controller into the PC too, if you prefer that.

Not to mention that for the same price as the PS3 you can get all the other benefits an actual computer gives, which is an automatic deal-breaker for me.

Dark Brotherhood

You totally missed my point. I'm not saying mods dont make the game better, they obviously do. But what the community provides shouldn't grant Bethesda kudos for making a great game. That praise goes to the modders but Skyrim as a vanillia game is dire. ad the majority play it vanillia because they play console or dont have a powerful enough rig to run it with mods.

You have to judge the game based on the day of release and what bethesda provide. Not what the community comes up with months later.

Oh okay, yeah, then I definitely agree with you on the point that it doesn't grant the developers kudos. Sorry for that :D

skimmed the thread briefly

Crysis is right when he says PC shit on consoles... Thats where all the hardcore gamers are. I'm a casual gamer though. The console is just fine for me. Plus the other multi-media functions they provide @ such a good price point for the average consumer just appeals to a lot of us that can't be fucked learning about building PCs and all these specs and hardware etc etc

Sometimes you just wanna take your bong rip, or drink your beer, and casually game


Battlefield is probably the game I play the most on my PS4 and they'll be the first to admit shits way crazier on PC as far as graphics/what the PC can handle and amount of people that play.

I owned assassins creed black flag (Over a couple months now) for my ps4, and I haven't even touched it yet. 2k and Infamous have too much replay.

Sorry but... my PC was bought for £399. I fitted a better graphics card for an extra £85 and this shit runs like an oil refinery.

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Dark elf marksman arcane-assassin/rogue build FTW.

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Spot on really.

As for saying that it's a dire game based on its bare bones is definitely subjective. Dependent on what sort of experience you expect from gaming, Skyrim is going to lend more reward towards those who appreciate magnificent detail at the cost of shoddy voice acting. I don't mind the Austrian/Norwegian twang.

This is like my argument about HD all over again.


Can someone show me how, in any way, a PC has such amazing different graphics? Pulse just said Battlefield Xbox gets shit on by PC in terms of graphics. Someone show me this astounding comparison video...

KOTOR & Fallout 3 > Skyrim

Not a bad game tho.