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J u s T C 03-18-2014 12:20 AM

The Drug Education Seminar for Kids (D.E.S.K) Sit behind yours as today
 
We touch on the difference between... Coke and Crack.

Inb4 blah blah he mad (It's all I got because he knows better and I muzzzzt win the internet)

I feel this is very important as there is an alarming amount of naive and all round fraudulence on a rap website where people try to rap like street wise hoodlums when they don't even know the basics of a trade which is very prevalent amongst the "law breakers" they try to portray themselves through the "power of rhyme"

So here we go kids.

"Coke IS crack, how do you think Crack is MADE" - Dope Man.

Brilliant. Not only is your name dope man and you don't know the difference between Coke and Crack, BUT YOU GO ON TO PROVE THEY AREN'T THE SAME IN THE VERY SAME SENTENCE YOU TRY TO CLAIM THEY ARE. Please refer to the key capitalized words in the above quote.

Now.

Coke vs Crack

In today’s dangerous drug world, it is important for everyone from users to doctors to concerned parents to understand the differences between coke and crack. Cocaine has been around much longer, and is considered a more stable drug. By stable we are referring to price, consistent purity, and ease of availability.

Cocaine takes nearly 15 minutes to interact with the body’s system and produce the effects it is used for, while crack tends to be a nearly instantaneous hit at 15 seconds. This makes cocaine a more popular drug among those who are hedging toward the ‘safe side’ versus those that are looking for a more ‘wild ride.’ Crack is generally considered to be a more potent and dangerous drug because it entices the user to lose control of their thoughts and actions more directly than coke users.

Cocaine comes with a higher price tag. It is more difficult to find a ready supplier because of its higher price. The higher price is usually consistent but it isn’t something that most addicts can afford on a regular basis. This often means that the popularity of cocaine is secondary. Crack is cheap, available, and provides instant relief.

Cocaine is not considered to be as dangerous or as addictive. Many social scientists believe this is more because of the price than preference. Users will find that they use cocaine as a ‘treat’ rather than a regular thing. Other users will only use cocaine, which means they tend to refrain from daily use.



Next week we shall cover the difference between salt and pepper, a chicken kebab and a donna kebab as well as the toughy that is the difference between beer and wine as well as cigarettes and cigars. You fucking morons.

The Dope Man 03-18-2014 12:31 AM

dawg.... it's called CRACK COCAINE....

what you just said can be learned in school...

Obviously there's a difference but it's practically the same substance. I've done cocaine before & ive seen on my friends make crack.

Crack= Cocaine, water, baking soda.

They both give you that Wired, Hyped feeling...

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The high's just going to hit you quicker cause your smoking it...

Same with Oxys... You could Pop it or sniff it, but if you smoke it, it gives you a high quicker, but generally its the same feeling.

Have you done any drugs before?

You proved ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in this thread.... #FAILED

J u s T C 03-18-2014 12:32 AM

They are not the same.

Thats like saying a fucking gherkin is a big mac because it's and ingrediant which goes into making a big mac.

How layman do I have to make this for you.

The Dope Man 03-18-2014 12:36 AM

You Cant Make Crack without Cocaine........

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The police categorize Crack/Cocaine together. They dont separate them.. It's CRACK COCAINE... Its in the name god damn it...

Do you really got your head that far up your ass..??

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Water & baking soda minimally change the elements.. The high is going to be exactly the same with one exception.

Crack will hit you quick & last short. other than that its the SAME EXACT HIGH.

The Ghost of Freak 03-18-2014 12:36 AM

@Just C and @Tha Dope Man , Same active chemical... different methods of ingestion cause different effects... you are both right... stop arguing over something this silly like y'all been smortking crokaine... thats where you snort cocaine and smoke crack at the same time... I've never seen it done, but this convo makes me think its possible.... although I don't suggest it.

J u s T C 03-18-2014 12:36 AM

You can't make a bike without atleast 1 wheel either but a wheel on it's own isn't a fucking bike is it?

Rain-Matrix 03-18-2014 12:37 AM

This thread makes me jones

The Dope Man 03-18-2014 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just C (Post 1008374)
You can't make a bike without wheels either but a pair of wheels on their aren't a fucking bike are they?

That's prolly the worst comparison someone could make...

The fact that your really arguing this is ridiculous...

It's the same drug, just ingested differently.

#CASECLOSED

J u s T C 03-18-2014 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FREAK MC (Post 1008373)
@Just C and @Tha Dope Man , Same active chemical... different methods of ingestion cause different effects... you are both right... stop arguing over something this silly like y'all been smortking crokaine... thats where you snort cocaine and smoke crack at the same time... I've never seen it done, but this convo makes me think its possible.... although I don't suggest it.

No, he's wrong. They are not the same.

The Dope Man 03-18-2014 12:40 AM

Police, FDA, all refer to both crack & cocaine as the 1 drug. They dont differentiate between the two, you fuckin retard.

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hence, CRACK COCAINE......

J u s T C 03-18-2014 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tha Dope Man (Post 1008376)
That's prolly the worst comparison someone could make...

The fact that your really arguing this is ridiculous...

It's the same drug, just ingested differently.

#CASECLOSED

It's just ingested differently? Really? That's the only difference?

The Dope Man 03-18-2014 12:47 AM

it creates the same high.....

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has the same ACTIVE element.. therefore it is classified as 1 drug, not 2.

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CRACK COCAINE ---------------------> 1 drug.

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Crack's only cheaper cause there is less cocaine per rock. (cause it is mixed with baking soda)

Here's a good comparison.....

You got Original Doritos & you got Cool Ranch Doritos....

There still fuckin doritos....

The Ghost of Freak 03-18-2014 12:52 AM

Actually @Tha Dope Man ... I hate to tell you, but you are wrong about the Police enforcement issue. Crack and Cocaine have been treated very different as far as sentencing. Crack has up to 5x the length of sentence per gram until recently for most states and by federal law....
evidently they just figured out that that method was classist and racist... that or it was intentionally used to put certain people in jail (conscious classism and racism)... that is for us to interpret. (There are a lot of articles about this out there, but Im way too lazy to find them... just google crack vs. cocaine sentencing)

-FREAK-

J u s T C 03-18-2014 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tha Dope Man (Post 1008378)
Police, FDA, all refer to both crack & cocaine as the 1 drug. They dont differentiate between the two, you fuckin retard.

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hence, CRACK COCAINE......

See this is where you fucked up yet again. You can tell you know nothing because you go off what you see on your TV watching COPS with your dick in your hand rather than being out there to actually know the differences between the 2.


If you get caught in possession of cocaine it is referred to a "CRACK cocaine" for 2 reasons.

1 The association because the latter is a vital INGREDIENT to produce the former (emphasis on INGREDIENT)

2 The necessity that comes with placing them under the same banner because the above allows for that.

Rain-Matrix 03-18-2014 12:57 AM

@Dope Man .. the cops care if its hard or powder , trust that. And ingested differently not nessasarily .... u can smoke coke , and some people will stick either into a needle


And the high from crack is alot more powerful than that of.cocaine



I know of some crackhead prostitutes ... theyll suck ur dick for 10 bucks. Then theyll get ripped off and given 3 dollars worth of crack if their.lucky... they might evem be given soap or candle wax or something. Then theyll go and repeat the cycle... nobodys gonna do that for coke lol

My 2 cents .... dont ever touch the shit its a slippery slope

Subreal 03-18-2014 12:57 AM

Just C is wrong. same chemical formula. cheese is cheese whether it is melted or solid. a change of state doesn't change the chemical makeup of something. learn chemistry @Just C

J u s T C 03-18-2014 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subreal (Post 1008388)
Just C is wrong. same chemical formula. cheese is cheese whether it is melted or solid. a change of state doesn't change the chemical makeup of something. learn chemistry @Just C

It has nothing to do with chemistry.

You never heard of coke epidemics. Just like dope man behind the tv only behind a chemistry book.

And melted cheese is Fondue.

The Ghost of Freak 03-18-2014 01:01 AM

@Subreal , yeah but @Tha Dope Man is technically wrong also... 2010 Fair Sentencing Act proves there was long difference politically between these two drugs and how they were enforced as crimes. Here is link...


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Even if they are technically the same active chemical... two different ingestion methods do also have different physiological effects.

Rain-Matrix 03-18-2014 01:03 AM

K dont mind me , what does the ex crackhead know about it

The Dope Man 03-18-2014 01:06 AM

I've personally done cocaine multiple times. One of my friends used to sell crack & ive had a few friends that have done crack. Nothing I said is wrong. I NEVER said anything about Criminal sentences between the two. All im saying is FDA/Police refer to both cocaince & crack as Crack Cocaine. It is the same type of high beside the fact that Crack hits you faster & doesnt last as long. Cocaine doesnt last that long either.. thats why you gotta do line after line cause the intial high only last like 20-30 minutes. I heard Crack lasts like 10 minutes.

Crack/Cocaine is the substance. baking soda/water is an INACTIVE ingredient. It is possible to smoke cocaine (i do not recommend it), I've put it on blunts before n shit, makes it burn slower.

I really can't believe im having this argument.

Subreal 03-18-2014 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just C (Post 1008389)
It has nothing to do with chemistry.

You never heard of coke epidemics. Just like dope man behind the tv only behind a chemistry book.

And melted cheese is Fondue.

Everything has to do with Chemistry. It's chemically the same thing.. so yeah, sorry.

meant to quote

J u s T C 03-18-2014 01:07 AM

It's not even about that. People are trying to say their the same like they are the same price, same effects and Coke every turned entire community's to shit.

By your logic crack wouldn't even exist because it's the same shit as coke which was already around.

All these people just.. WAISTED THEIR TIME cooking crack for no fucking reason when that obviously ISN'T the case

If they were the same. a couple hits of crack would cost £120.

The Dope Man 03-18-2014 01:19 AM

When did i say anything about Criminal sentences??? i just said there refered to as 1 name.

People added baking soda and cooked cocaine to crack in order to expand their product, plus the high was shorter so the customer would be more likely to come back.....

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i never said they were the same price either...

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technically, the dealer pays for cocaince cooks into crack, expands his product and sells it cheaper. But they're actually getting the same amount of cocaine.

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you wouldnt have Crack without cocaine. Considering its the only active ingredient.

@Just C if your saying The two are different because Crack is cocaine mixed with baking soda then ill stop posting on this thread.

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@Just C have you done Coke/crack before? seen it? had friends who sold it? been addicted to it?

All my info is from personal experience in my town.

Subreal 03-18-2014 01:22 AM

in this thread: Dopeman admitting to being a crack head

J u s T C 03-18-2014 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subreal (Post 1008396)
Everything has to do with Chemistry. It's chemically the same thing.. so yeah, sorry.


That's like saying BLNK is a gold medal Olympic runner because him and usain bolt are made up of oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus when they aren't. cause and effect

The Dope Man 03-18-2014 01:32 AM

i NEVER smoked crack before. It's not my fault that ive been around it most of my life.

I have my fair share of experience with drugs...nothing to brag about...

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tbh.. there's a new epidemic... Prescription Pain Meds are on tha Takeover...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Just C (Post 1008408)
That's like saying BLNK is a gold medal Olympic runner because him and usain bolt are made up of oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus when they aren't. cause and effect

Usain bolt produces more oxygen, has more muscle mass, & prolly more of those other chemicals to make him run faster........

J u s T C 03-18-2014 01:33 AM

How long was you hooked on crack for?

Good to hear you're finally out of that bad place.

Subreal 03-18-2014 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just C (Post 1008408)
That's like saying BLNK is a gold medal Olympic runner because him and usain bolt are made up of oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus when they aren't. cause and effect

No it's not, it's different in the fact that humans are unique. Ever heard of DNA? We aren't the same chemical makeup. Why do you think no one has nailed the chemical makeup of a human lol. You have different levels of iron,calcium, etc in your body than I do right now. But substances are different. Pure water is Pure water, there is no difference.

The Dope Man 03-18-2014 01:37 AM

LOL never done crack before. Just had a friend who used to sell it.

My drug problem is oxy30s, & that shits no joke. Im on suboxone at the moment trying to get over my problem. Shits not funny. But idgaf if you wanna make jokes cuz i know none of you can understand what im talking about. maybe @Rain-Matrix aha

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@Subreal I agree with you 100%. glad someone has some common sense & doesnt argue for the sake of arguing.

J u s T C 03-18-2014 01:37 AM

I'm starting to think you're clutching at straws and making this up as you go along.

How about you actually go out there and see the drastic difference in effects and price. THEN try and tell me they are the same thing.

You're trying to tell me tobacco is a joint because it goes into making a joint.

The Dope Man 03-18-2014 01:40 AM

i know the prices...

i get like .7-1 gram of crack for like 15-20 bucks

whereas cocaine 1 gram is like 60-80 bucks

the reason for that is Baking soda fills some of that weight to make it cheaper. Cocaine is purer

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how am i making any of this up?

Manhattan 03-18-2014 01:41 AM

Cocaine and Crack are different and not the same thing. Sure they both come from the same coca plant and you need coke to make crack. However it's the same with Weed and Hash...They come from the same plant and you can't make hash without weed but they're not the same.

The Dope Man 03-18-2014 01:47 AM

Hash & weed give you basically the same high. Hash is a lil stronger, but its the same chemical. Crack/cocaine also have the same chemical that get you high. the baking soda and water does not get you high.

They're obviously different forms but its the same chemical/ same drug

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hash is basically condensed res, if you think about it lol

my friend had an ounce of hash, shit was like a black rock, mad dense.

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Same with the hash tho... if you wanna make hash your gonna need more alotta weed to cook that shit.

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@Just C i don't put tobacco in my joints lol but those two are different substances/different chemical make up.

J u s T C 03-18-2014 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tha Dope Man (Post 1008420)
Hash & weed give you basically the same high. Hash is a lil stronger, but its the same chemical. Crack/cocaine also have the same chemical that get you high. the baking soda and water does not get you high.

They're obviously different forms but its the same chemical/ same drug

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hash is basically condensed res, if you think about it lol

my friend had an ounce of hash, shit was like a black rock, mad dense.

Answer the question

Can Mc Donalds make a big mac without a burger?

Is BURGER A BIG MAC?

Manhattan 03-18-2014 01:47 AM

Hash and weed give you totally different highs....Also still it's just like I said they're both different, Just like coke and crack. It's a related form of the drug not the same thing though

The Dope Man 03-18-2014 01:48 AM

dawg.... your comparisons make no sense and have nothing to do with what we're taking about

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Crack and coke are the same chemicals... CORRECT?

J u s T C 03-18-2014 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tha Dope Man (Post 1008426)
dawg.... your comparisons make no sense and have nothing to do with what we're taking about

Just answer the fucking questions.

You're saying coke is crack because coke goes into making crack.

well a burger goes into making a big mac but it doesn't make a lone burger a fucking big mac does it?

stop ducking and answer me.

The Dope Man 03-18-2014 01:50 AM

i say coke is crack because its the same chemical.

Manhattan 03-18-2014 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just C (Post 1008428)

well a burger goes into making a big mac but it doesn't make a lone burger a fucking big mac does it?

stop ducking and answer me.

LOL!!!

The Dope Man 03-18-2014 01:52 AM

@Manhattan whats the difference between a hash & weed high??? ive only done them at the sametime

I just felt more mellow and that heavy feeling when i did hash, like an intense weed high...


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