Time: The Fourth Dimension.
 

As most of you may know, time is widely considered to be the fourth quantifiable dimension of our universe, existing parallel to space. With this in mind, and noting the expansion of the universe in all directions, one must presume that time is then, inherently non-linear in its nature. My question then, is this: In what way, will the inherent non-linearity of time effect our perception of causality, and the state of cause and effect?

What the fuck did he just say????

So youre saying time has just begun in the far outer reaches of space ... and, on the flip side ... time has not yet begun where space hasnt been created yet?





Well , theres no cause and effect of that. Once its there it carries on like it does here

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We get a headstart is all ... 2014 for us, year 1 for them

"time" is an abstract in itself. Can time exist in an unobservable space of dark matter such as the border of space that has yet to be expanded? Has "time" always existed? If so, then it would have had to have existed in the void before space (Assuming there was a "before space") since it exists now, and hasn't provided any observable evidence to prove it hasn't been infinitely in existence.

Imo time doesnt exist, its manmade. Cavemen didnt walk around with gold rollexs, they didnt have clocks, none of that. It came later.. all time is, is A way to tell you what part of.the day it is. And the day.only changes because.earth revolves and a different part of it gets lit up by the sun... all a year is, is.how long it takes us to.get around the sun. Time isnt real, its just a way of telling you "when"


my thoughts

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my bad for all the awkward punctuation, im on my phone

Do some reading on Special, and General Relativity. The dimensionality of time is discussed in both. Time began, when space began. But, time does not move in a solitary motion. Its expansion, like that of space, is in all directions. Therefore our linear perception of time, as a chronological series of instances is not "time," it is simply the easiest way for us to understand time. Take this for example: An occurrence takes place fifty years from now. But, because time is not linear, this occurrence may then, cause an effect in our current time, or, in a time prior to our present day, etc. Also, here's an analogy to help understand this premise. Imagine a bubble, inside of a pool. As this bubble expands, it displaces the water around it, in all directions in which the bubble is expanding. The bubble here, is the universe. Time is the pool. Therefore, as the universe expands, it is displacing time around itself, causing time to move in the same directions as space. This is why particles are able to move, not only forwards, and backwards in time, but, to the left, or right, or up, or down.

Aristotle and the the greatest philosophers discussed it, and Eisenstein Proved it. He said "Put a man next to a hot girl for a min, bet its gonna be a short min. Put him in a hot oven, bet its gonna be the longest min of his life. Thats relativity". Theres two views of time, the widely accepted one is that time is just human perception, that we needed it to exist. Because if time were to completely stop existing, would we even know? Im not too clear on the space time continuum (altough i think they call it that cuz theres a relation lol) Like for example if u go at the speed of light, the world shrinks into a pancake and the world around you ages alot faster than u do.

Kinda hard to prove the future effects the past , dont u think? @jack

Time begins when space begins , but its linear. Time isnt real ... people treat it as some kind of unseen force. The government invested billions into time travel .... but u cant travel through it. The closest you can get to that is freezing yourself.


Time dont exist ... @PackNflow , so if im baking in an oven while youre sitting next to a hot.girl for a year .... youll end up years ahead of me? Nigga plz



It dont exist ... time tells you when, thats all. 1 step at a time, theres no rush

Actually, solid point Rain. I also agree time was man-made.

Time is a man made creation, as far as the clock goes. Back then, people measured "time" by tracking the sun. When it went down it was time to sleep, since it was harder to be seen and killed aka the adaptive theory. Also we produce melatonin in the dark

Anyway, time only exists on this plane. Or other planes designed similarly to this. What people don't understand is that some of us are thousands of years old because energy had to migrate onto Earth in order for human life to start. That's a truth people love to skip over..

Dinosaurs die and out of nowhere humans appear? Where did dinosaurs come from? Where did humans come from? Exactly. We migrate from space & when a planet provides the conditions necessary to sustain life, we emerge as micro organisms. We evolved from these micro organisms and lived as all kinds of beasts. The fact that we're human means we're almost at the end of this cycle on this planet. The human mind and its ability to recognize patterns and analyze situations is what evolved us until this point

In doing so, we lost a lot of our senses and 'super-'abilities, if you will, since we lose the muscles we stop using, or the organs, etc (we have appendixes which dont even serve a purpose) ...The Ancient Egyptians knew much more than we ever knew and believed we had 360 senses... The Egyptians found that a lot of human glands had an ability & interestingly asians referred to these glands throughout the body as "chakra", their version of the energy coming out of these glands. So basically at one point, before we 1-12 on the clock was invented, we transcended time.

So time is petty and really its nothing to be concerned about. Its only something you concern yourself with in this lifetime in this carnation, and you'll question it again next time around if you're incarnated in a plane where time exists, so whats the point

God Nye.. BUT; ''or other planes DESIGNED similar to this.'' So you are one for intelligent design, correct? I didn't know if you backed this scenario or not.

earth 4 life... nigga

@Obey

Back in the day the Egyptians, along with many other civilizations didnt have these distractions.. Its like I said in another thread, all these niggas did was meditate and observe the sky. Honestly, ya'll really need to think about that. No toys, no balls, no computers, phones, cars. What else could they do?

Anyway, they found large Quartz crystals in Egyptian structures which are great for gathering electricity. The Egyptians believed in the Right Brain and the Left Brain...the Right Brain entailed feminine aspects & the left entailed masculine. They were well aware of different consciousnesses and the rituals they performed on the ground were actually them replicating what they saw in the sky. They built structures with electricity, healed with sound, and astral projected a lot, travelling different planes. Buddha, for example, seeking enlightenment, did the same. He meditated and meditated even almost dying at one point from not eating shit.

We are not from this Earth, and the evidence supports my claim. You dont just appear. Dinosaurs dont just get wiped out and the next day someone wakes up like "Ahh, feels good to be the first human"

What you guys should do is figure out why there's fluoride, bromide, and other hallides in your water, soda, other beverages that de-calcify your pineal gland. You should ask why Monsanto regulates the seeds in the farming industry and include GMOs in their crops, or why processed foods are full of toxins

Your brain cleans itself of toxins when you sleep.

Then ask why Pepsi Co (they own Frito Lay too btw) decides to make "Naked" Juice, which is supposedly a healthy alternative to their kid-killing soda, and label it as "GMO free" only to get sued and taken to court because their shit is not in fact GMO free

Its marketing and manipulation everywhere. If you get in where you fit in they'll let you into certain clubs but other than that you just play your role as a product. All of us products to them because they look at us and see $$$$.. In a capitalist economy where product is everything, the less you know the better.

Ya'll need to remember that we went from spiritual to material. & If you think that's a good thing you're kidding yourself because our true purpose has been completely thrown off by wishful thinking that everythings gonna be okay and we'll all go to heaven or this and that will fix itself...lol, thats not how the mechanics work. There's mechanics, a science, to life.

Wrong, Time itself is not abstract. We did not create the thought of of time. We only created a way to measure it. Time itself is non-linear and can be stretched. Look at black holes. Black holes not only affect space, matter, gravity and light. It also stretches time. 10 minutes inside a black hole is 1000 years outside of it, roughly. I don't know the equation.

Yo godbody whats our true purpose that u speak of? ... lets say we achieved what your saying, what do we do with it? What can u Promise us?




Youre competing with pepsi, lamborginis, playstation 4s.... everything. So u better have a good sales pitch, my nigga

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Link me to someone proving what happens in a black hole .... last i checked nobodys stupid enough to enter one

http://www.hawking.org.uk/into-a-black-hole.html

^ Stephen Hawking on Black Holes Stretching Space and Time

@Rain-Matrix get off your high horse, you shoulda payed more attention to my post " is that time is just human perception" is the point I was making, thats what they proved. So lemme explain what me and Eisenstein are saying, Time is as real as the degrees outside or inches to your dick "nigga". just measurements. Also rain I dont think you understand, the faster you go the slower you perceive time and age (while the outside goes faster) if you disagree then just look it up. You can go forward, but not back (unless you went so forward and skipped the bigbang and technically ended up in the past) Your attitude isnt appreciated, nor sensible

Shit started making my head hurt ... nigga start rambling on about walt disney. Probably would.of ended in an unproven theory anyway ..... hawkins is an idiot

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Time is a measurement thats what i said. I didnt need another nigga to tell me that though



Time isnt perception though , a second for you is a second for me.

Dude, Stephan Hawking is one of the smartest men on the planet

Denton with the citation. Props @DJ Denton.

@Rain-Matrix I agree you dont need anyone to tell you what you know, but you misunderstood my "perspective" so did you really know what you were talking about? Also your wrong about your other statement, You should know what Perception is (dictionary.com if u dont) Its been scientifically proven that kids perceive time as 2x longer than adults. Thats why time seams to fly by when your elder. If a "second to you is a second for me" then that means you believe time as real (because its not based on a persons imagination or perception if you will, its a real thing that you can compare with others). If time froze for a second, would you know? No, no technology we have can prove that, only the way we 'feel' about it and perceive it can describe it. Im open to anyone who would like to discuss it

Yes, the atomic measurement of the second is the same for you, and I. But, do we both perceive the second in the same way? No, we do not. Because we are each doing something individually for that length of time.

@jack Do you feel the atomic measurement can change for something. Like for example how Dj pointed out the black holes and time correlation

Yes, time slows as you approach the event horizon of a blackhole. It is called gravitational time dilation. It slows due to the gravitational pull of the black hole itself.

Case Closed

Lol @ Hawkings is an idiot

I didnt misunderstand anything, were still arguing about the same shit ... perception. A year SEEMS longer when youre a kid , because they havent experienced as many as us. Whats a year to a decade? It doesnt mean were moving any faster Than them




& i wiki'd that gravitational time thing , it just Said clocks tick slightly faster by a nanosecond or some shit. Im not gonna comment on something i know nothing about. Im sure theres other explanations for that , especially if their relying on clocks during a gravitational pull.

he said time i immediatelty thought of

^ This is the song that inspired this thread. Step your game up, @Phil Banks