Deadlifting
 

@Askari @Jason, any other gym heads

Seeing as this forum turned into a bodybuilding conference a few weeks back, I may as well ask your opinions on deadlifting. It's a debate I've had literally everywhere. I personally think it's essential, some people even say it's all you need. Some people say it'll fuck up your back and legs beyond repair later in life.

For that reason I don't creep past 100kg too often. For deadlifting alone can bulk more muscles than any other exercise, this is somewhat a disappointment. I just don't want to be in immense pain everyday when I'm in my 60s.

If your looking to bulk up, stick to protein and dumbbells. Most people don't know that the quickest and easiest way to bulk are simple push-ups, they are a COMPLETE upper body work out and can damn well bulk up on simply just those alone. There's no need to get all crazy with deadlifts and other non-sense.

Final thought: Bench and curls (various types) with MASS amounts of protein (Do the odd Leg day to strengthen your inner core from time to time as well)

I'm preaching lol

I'm all for the holistic approach. For chest, I simply bench straight, incline and decline and alternate with flies.

Push-ups do your chest and triceps, they don't really touch on anything else at all.

I'm talking about deadlifting as a holistic exercise, in the sense that it exercises more muscles in a set than any other exercise which is true, but there are a lot of health risks that go into it. I was wondering if anyone has had any other experiences, particularly people older than me.

And yes, obviously my daily protein is epic. I just had a 50g protein bag of prawns and 300g of rice motherfucker.

I don't do dead lifts because my back is all fucked up and has been since before I started lifting but as far as I've heard they're great for strength and a really good compound exercise.

Keep your weight lower and you shouldn't have any injury issues as long as your form is correct. Improper form is how you get fucked up by these things.

My friends that deadlift and deadlift alone are pretty fucking insane tbf. Methinks they on that anabolic tip.

I'm still going to hit up a 60-80kg deadlift now and then, just to round off, but as I said and as you guys have said, I don't think getting into the hardcore deadlifting shit is worth it really.

Cardio + Caveman training. Leave the gyms for the girls.

J. could you recommend some exercises/a routine that wouldn't necessarily mean hitting the gym?

Just something to help me look less doughy and more toned (6 pack ect) and to keep me fit. not tryna be the hulk or anything crazy like that lol

Working out to get a 6 pack. Lol. Won't all that hard work smudge your make up?

A jog everyday, plus sit-ups, bicycle crunches and leg-ups?

didn't say just a 6 pac said that as an example lol. just wanna get toned and healthy. and ight kinda figured that Vit. was looking for a schedule/routine too. see f J has any ideas.

You're redeeming it with "healthy" I suppose haha.

A girl said to me the other day "I hate the way they have all these skinny bitches in the magazines. They never have real women". Now taking aside that no one wants to see "real women", these skinny bitches (with the exception of 'supermodels') work the fuck out and watch what they eat. If you're a healthy person who eats right and exorsizes, you're going to look like these "people in the magazines". It's more promoting healthy living than it is anything else.

For all over though Just, as Vit said jogging and cardio is really the healthiest way. Weights and stuff build muscle or strength, but they aren't really "exorsize" as much as they are "working out". Cardio based things will lose you body fat and increase your stamina and shit. As Vit said aswell, things like crunches are good too because they build your core. In almost every aspect of working out, having a strong core is really important. Sit-Ups, Push Ups, Mountain Climbers, Plank. All that kind of shit helps strengthen your core which will aid the rest of your working out (and give you your faggot six pack while you're at it :D)

Lol. And that's why i asked for a routine. to help me get the best of both worlds by mixing it up. i want amounts and how often ect. a base to build on. if J's kind enough to help me out i'ma give it a go and see where it gets me. i'm not tryna humour anyone here. i'm legit serious.

Theres a brilliant park near Just C's house that he loves to go to. Old Trafford yeah?

Lol eth.

And yeah there's a pretty big 1 just down the road from me.

I'm not sure exactly what you want to achieve. If you want muscles, then obviously lifting and bench pressing is the way to go, but if you just want to remain remotely healthy then that's not necessary.

Best things you can do is watch your carbohydrates, RUN and jump rope.

Avoid noodles/potatoes/bread mostly. People say ''watch calories/fats'' etc, but for some reason when I took out a bunch of carbs from my diet I lost a bunch of weight, very easily too.

^He already went through that. He wants an actual workout plan. Like sets/reps/exorsizes etc.

Yes Deadlifting is key if you want to hit your whole back with a single exercise. If you want to build more muscle: Deadlift, If you want to become stronger overall: Deadlifts, If you want to burn more cals: Deadlift, if you want to build more core strength: Deadlift and if you want to pick your car up off some hobo you just backed into: Deadlift. You just need to learn the proper form in order not to kill yourself with heavy weight. Not only are deadlifts a true test of strength they are also personally my favorite lift and should be everyones heaviest lift. @Just C if you don't have equipment or access to a gym but you can hit up the park then I would suggest some crossfit style metabolic conditioning to get you ripped up. Not only will you be burning massive amounts of calories during the exercise you will also burn cals even hours after your workout. Crossfit workout I did today was Cindy= 5 pull ups,10 push ups and 15 air squats (As many rounds as possible in 20 minutes) there are a ton of crossfit workouts that do not require more then somewhere to do pull ups. Angie= 100 pull ups, 100 push ups, 100 sit ups and 100 air squats for time. Barbara= 20 pull ups, 30 push ups, 40 sit ups and 50 air squats (5 rounds for time) Those are just a select few for not having access to weights. Since I do not know you personally I don't know what your strength is like so if you have to then cut these workouts (reps) in half until you can do a full workout. @Jason knows what I'm talking about with crossfit and I bet you did fight gone bad? That shit killed me the other day

^Do you mean like weightest vests etc?

He means like using your own body weight in exercises. Pull ups, Push ups, Air squats etc but ya you could use a weight vest but I would NEVER advise using ankle weights

Jason knows his shit and I believe what your saying about park work outs because that type of met con can have you puking. Sometime look up Fight gone bad @Jason trust me it feels like you just got your ass kicked in a scrap haha

i'm 5'11. 12 stone last time i checked.

lol kids sat crying in empty sand pits when ever J's around

Stones > Pounds...but Pounds > Dollars :D

Routines are only good if you lack motivation. If you literally JUST work out, cardio, a few weights and watch what you each, shit will just come together. These bitches who go on full diets don't have a clue.

14lbs per stone

thats a pretty big stone tbh

Yeah for people who are dedicated to it, they would disagree. But for someone just looking to generally get in shape, doing compound lifts and drinking protine shakes or whatever isn't really needed.

Although for a dude rocking a beer belly, I'm not much to talk hahaha.

Ya Hannibal King is a beast. I've seen that vid before and shit I can only do like 5 muscle ups in a row that dude makes it look like nothing

thought it was 12lbs for some reason. that clip crazy too J.

And yeah i'll do w.e.

yo I'm eating ice cream cake reading this thread :/

LOL ^

I'm drinking a can and pretending to myself that Thursday night drinking on my own isn't a bad thing.

on some real shit tho I'd like to be in better shape I already work my ass of at work just gotta eat better and do a little exercise...

I've never tried to do muscle ups before. Should give them a go.

Ya Dave but trust they are hard as fuck. I can do 5 but that's because my strength to weight ratio is pretty damn solid. I know dudes who are ripped the fuck up and can bench more then I squat and can't do a single muscle up and yet I also know tiny guys who can do muscle ups like theyre pull ups. Ya your right Jason its true and all about getting your chest almost parallel to the pull up bar. I've got my Lv 1 Crossfit Cert and my pops owns a gym

which part of the insane shit in that video that black dude was doin was muscle ups... homeboy is a beast :/

@38 seconds....looks easy but its not

I'll drink an 8 pack of Dutch Gold and then do 10 muscle ups. No one pre-trains like me!

Ok Vitty here's my two cents on the matter....

Personally I deadlift once a week in conjunction with a back/shoulders routine. It's a great compound muscle workout and one that I feel some of my best gains have come from. I swear by it but I can get why a lot of people rubbish it these days, it can lead to injury - both long and short term - if you don't do it correctly.

For me, the most important factor in gaining muscle, the out and out BEST way to bulk - or at least the best foundation for bulking - is FORM. That goes for ANY ANY ANY lift or exercise you do, I can't stress that enough. I feel confident in my deadlift form ergo I deadlift as part of my sets with increasing weight weekly. Same goes for any workout, without proper form you will a) struggle to gain muscle and b) fuck all your shit up.

I don't use deadlift and deadlift alone; as stated it's part of my shoulder/back set, although of course it works legs and a little chest also. On the days where I deadlift the rest of my set consists of bent over front rows, military barbell press, pull ups and incline bench press. Keeping as many compound, free weight workouts in there as possible to build muscle. Deadlift works well, but I couldn't imagine it would do you any real favours doing that and nothing else.

I recommend deadlift, but make sure you get some real advice on proper form so as to avoid injury, limit it to once a week and make sure your other exercises are compound as much as possible too eg barbell/weighted squats on leg day, flys, switch pushups and bench presses chest day. I like to stick to one/two areas of focus on each day, with a day of rest between, hitting each muscle group with focus only one day a week. That's just my regime though, find what works for you man.

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That hannibal for king vid just made me feel like a fucking 6 year old ballerina forreal.

I think I'm going to ask my massively hench albino gym instructor to help me with true form today. Haha. It's back/shoulders as well, coincidentally.