I know I am posting this on the text side, but two lines do NOT equal a bar...
 

How this can even be debated is beyond me.

I never understood it.

Anyone who has ever recorded knows this isn't possible, so why do textcees seem to think different?

who cares - everyone writes differently...as long as you can fit it in a verse, doesnt matter how many "bars" there are

I care.

It really crisps my bagels when I see people post "64 Bars / 32 lines"

It's incorrect.

It's all in the writer. I agree, comare a Joell Ortiz or a Vinnie Paz to El-P or Aesop Rock. Joell could easily fit that 2:1 format (ex. Joell "Battle Cry"/ Juice "Heat") whereas El-P has some work with 1:1 bar to line (ex. Both "Delorean" or Aesop "Citronella"). Structure is in the eye of the writer.

bars arent the real problem..the problem lies within the bars - in the form of syllables...ppl dont kno how to count syllables and try to jam as much as they can (and sometimes the opposite - which is worse) into a line/verse

we need to go back to the basics

it really doesnt matter. its already been stated, it depends on the writer. if everyone followed the same line to bar ratio then you would have a bunch of chumps that sound alike, (ex. 90% of rappers on the radio 2chains, waka, gucci, jucie mane, soulja boy, etc...) all of them sound alike and pretty much have the same scheme "rhyme this word with that word and call it music"

i personally like to rap fast so i can fit more shit into a line, where some who rap slower dont put as much in their lines. it all has to do with your style, your content, your vocabulary, and all around skill.

If It Flows, Why Not?

What is a bar, then, Baron Mynd?

4 beats

Shit always puzzled me too ... If anything 16 bars should be 32 lines

Latest Symptoms... That, to me, was four beats. Is it then a bar?

People mixing up beats with syllables I see

Not at all, triplets plus one. It was still four beats.

You voted against me on Saturday, so what do you REALLY know anyway?

*raises ban hammer*

Lmaoooo I'm kiddin :D. I know nothing about making music apart from it's 4 beats.

^Isn't the same without the yellow name........
It all depends on the writer. Some people keep it two lines, some people keep it one, some people call a bar just one complete thought.

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I still got that Live Battle title son -_-

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Yea... I'm not custom to change.

i dont follow the 4 beats thing..can someone explain

Listen to a song while countin

1....2....3....4
1....2....3....4

The same rhythm youd Tap your foot ... Bob your head whatever... First line will be that first 4 beats and the line that rhymes with it will be the next four beats... And so on and so on

ok i remember learning about that

LMFAO. How Long You Been Making Music?

^ lol..as we can see/hear, it doesn't really have an effect on whether i make good music or not...just a minor detail...whats your excuse

You sound frazzled.

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This guy knows what's up.

Well I Don't Make Music So I Do Give You Props For That But Even I Knew The 4/4 Time Signature Is Standard.