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Just C 05-02-2012 09:01 AM

Just To Educate A Ztan
 
On what truly is great writing

This >'Anything that AZ has ever written or rapped


Phil Banks 05-02-2012 09:19 AM

yeah that shit was crazy

SoupErb 05-02-2012 09:40 AM

thought it was the dude from Tokyo Drift lol

this was nice tho.

Just C 05-02-2012 09:55 AM

I think nice is an understatement tbh. Epic is more like it. The point that it's all based off fact is what makes it amazing for me. You can't manufacture shit like that.

CSKiLLz 05-02-2012 10:40 AM

@Just € You See This Battle??

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@Just € ******

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Mr biscuit is raw!!!

Godbody 05-02-2012 10:49 AM

I saw D-Lor vs Mr. Biscuit...that was some good shit

but LOL @ this being better than anything AZ ever rap or wrote down because its 'based on fact' and you cant 'manufacture' this

Hollohan might have 1 good verse out of every 5 songs. Don't trip and think just because he's rapping about some real shit that all of a sudden he's "epic"..How does that have anything to do with skill? Lemme see Hollohan drop 9 albums with not 1 bad verse and let me see Eminem mention Hollohan as one of his influences

because Eminem mentions AZ as one of his influences. But that was a cute verse from Hollohan. It doesn't come close to AZ's verse on The Hardest at all. Skill-wise, lyrically, flow, everything.

Here's a song that shits on whatever you just posted from Hollohan


Sex cars clothes money and murder, from soldier to server
Hood hoppin, hopin the merger rockin
My own pops got me open on burners, no option
Had a heart problem, copin with murmurs the doctrine
No Cochran, winnin since niggaz was woppin
Way when Rakim was knockin
Streets was what it was when, thugs was thugs and
Gun wars galore goin slug for slug and
Jewels drugs and all, niggaz love is love
With the crew wall to wall, I'll be bugged above

So beef war, this way too deep to sleep
Niggaz keep up, cause certified killers creep
Stole this lady I, drove her crazy
You ask me why cause her man tried to play me
So reload quickly and, you better hit me while
I'm lettin this pretty chick get with me
Steppin with double-oh-seven better make it snappy
No time to do your hair baby, brothers is bustin at me
Blunts and bottles passed, but none on target
They want the God hit, but watch Allah get
Low as Saddam and his pawns so unharmed I'm unarmed
Though I'm calm I could yawn sing a song
I'm the don king of dons King Kong could bring it on
Word is bond

The shit in bold is just an example of when he goes off with the rhyme schemes. That's only the first verse, lmfao. I don't think ya'll catch all the rhymes when you listen to AZ and get ready to 'educate' pULSe. Lmao.

AfterThought 05-02-2012 10:50 AM

Masterpiece, really enjoyed it. Dude looks like Freezy though. lol

Just C 05-02-2012 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pU1Se (Post 791671)
I saw D-Lor vs Mr. Biscuit...that was some good shit

but LOL @ this being better than anything AZ ever rap or wrote down because its 'based on fact' and you cant 'manufacture' this

Hollohan might have 1 good verse out of every 5 songs. Don't trip and think just because he's rapping about some real shit that all of a sudden he's "epic"..How does that have anything to do with skill? Lemme see Hollohan drop 9 albums with not 1 bad verse and let me see Eminem mention Hollohan as one of his influences

because Eminem mentions AZ as one of his influences. But that was a cute verse from Hollohan. It doesn't come close to AZ's verse on The Hardest at all. Skill-wise, lyrically, flow, everything.

Here's a song that shits on whatever you just posted from Hollohan

AZ - City Of Gods - YouTube

Sex cars clothes money and murder, from soldier to server
Hood hoppin, hopin the merger rockin
My own pops got me open on burners, no option
Had a heart problem, copin with murmurs the doctrine
No Cochran, winnin since niggaz was woppin
Way when Rakim was knockin
Streets was what it was when, thugs was thugs and
Gun wars galore goin slug for slug and
Jewels drugs and all, niggaz love is love
With the crew wall to wall, I'll be bugged above

So beef war, this way too deep to sleep
Niggaz keep up, cause certified killers creep
Stole this lady I, drove her crazy
You ask me why cause her man tried to play me
So reload quickly and, you better hit me while
I'm lettin this pretty chick get with me
Steppin with double-oh-seven better make it snappy
No time to do your hair baby, brothers is bustin at me
Blunts and bottles passed, but none on target
They want the God hit, but watch Allah get
Low as Saddam and his pawns so unharmed I'm unarmed
Though I'm calm I could yawn sing a song
I'm the don king of dons King Kong could bring it on
Word is bond

The shit in bold is just an example of when he goes off with the rhyme schemes. That's only the first verse, lmfao. I don't think ya'll catch all the rhymes when you listen to AZ and get ready to 'educate' pULSe. Lmao.

See twisting what I say wont earn you any Kudos round here.

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And lol at the lyrics you highlighted. Dookie compared to what I posted.

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Guy rhymed Slug with Thug. WOAH! Rhyme scheme alert!!!

Phil Banks 05-02-2012 10:56 AM

yeah this hollo song pretty much viral now..... shit doesnt compare to AZ without guys like AZ there is no Hollo... still not the GOAT.... pulse keeps mentioning Eminem.... lol Em doesnt even put AZ on his top 10... wheres they song where he goes through his top 10

It's goes reggie tupac and biggie andre from outkast.... forgot the rest no AZ mention though

Godbody 05-02-2012 10:59 AM

& If you don't think AZ's shit is dope is because he's too real for you niggas...He's on some super street shit in his lyrics. He never sold his soul to make mainstream jams and he kept it G since day one. This is grown folk music, real gangsta shit that hardcore Hip-Hop fans across the globe respect

AZ's the last verse on this song.... I wanna see Hollohan drop anything this skillfully as far as lyrics, word choice, schemes, and substance. This is some next level shit. Everybody should be takin notes.



AZ's verse is the last verse 2:37

Wake up to the world, stay in charge of your dreams
Keep ya vision focused, get wise, enlargen your cream
Marketing schemes, so many in the dark it's un-seen
Caught in between perhaps rap was a fortunate thing
Forced to be king, from hustlin supportin them fiends
Bustin guns - I had no remorse as a teen
Rockin birthstones, my first year bid, nursed his dome.
It's hurt to zone, now I realize I'm on this earth alone
Time ticks, devilish minds design tricks
Leave you blind quick, and cause you to die behind shit/
Mathematics, Master 120 I'm Aziatic/
Amazed with magic cause it's illusions that made me savage/


This last bar in bold is one thats gonna go over alot of people's heads...Unless ya'll have the right knowledge and can de-code what it means

IV 05-02-2012 10:59 AM

@Phil Banks Reggie Jay Z tupac and biggie, Andre from outcast, Jada, Kurupt and then me

Just C 05-02-2012 11:00 AM

Doesn't compare to AZ? So just because he got famous means the writing doesn't compare?

I don't care if Uncle Phil wrote what Hollo did the point is a better written is a better written. Show me 1 AZ track in all his catalogue where he display's that kind of pen game. You can't because he doesn't. He's a run of the mill lyricist in the big scheme of things.

Godbody 05-02-2012 11:03 AM

@ Just C, I just showed you the song

@ Phil Banks, check Eminem's wikipedia page. AZ is an influence

and then listen to Eminem - We're Back


All I Hear Is I'm Best At This And I'm Best At That
But I Don't Hear My Name, No Where Brought Up In Rap
And I Don't Usually Trip Or Dare Get Caught Up In That
But When They Say One Of The Best, I'm Nowhere Thought Up As That
Not Even The Same League As Jay-Z, Nas, Pac, Biggie Or Maybe
They Name Me Somewhere Down At The Bottom, Right After AZ


Basically what Em is saying is that he doesn't think he's looked at as #1...when people think of the best rappers they're quick to name Jay-Z, Pac, Nas first, etc

But he's saying he's overlooked and slept on just like AZ. And AZ might be one of the best rappers ever who never got credit for his skill

He had no mixtape, his first rap verse EVER was on Life's a Bitch and that verse alone is better than verses from heads that have been rapping for years and years and years

About.com lists AZ as the most underrated lyricist of all time.

Just C 05-02-2012 11:07 AM

Lol @ Wikipedia page. You're such a gullible nerd.

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And that song doesn't cut it. It's all cliche n a played angle.

IV 05-02-2012 11:11 AM

Looks like he's saying AZ is wack to me

Just C 05-02-2012 11:19 AM

I'm not saying he's whack. I'm saying he's aiiight. He doesn't say anything amazing nor does he SAY IT in a a great way. He's just aiiiight.

His verse on The Firm could have been spat by someone on let's beef tbh. He didn't have a great message and it was all "been done before" n cliche. And again his delivery was pretty bland tbh.

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Yes I know The Firm is a Very old track. But times change. Tastes change and people advance.

Ticket 05-02-2012 11:28 AM

yoooo man... why ya'll on eminems nuts tho.... EMINEM LIKES AZ!!!!... If Eminem likes him, how is he NOT dope? wtf is wit that shit... fuckin stans man...

Godbody 05-02-2012 11:37 AM

Nobody is on Em's nuts. Im just saying. Ticket, how many grammys have u won? Have you gone diamond? Are you considered one of the greatest rappers ever? No?

So if you said so-and-so was a good rapper who would give two shits?

Eminem is considered the GOAT of rap and he's one of the most influential people in the rap game, and even HE'S biggin up AZ.

Not to mention when he showed AZ love he mentioned him among Nas, Pac, Biggie, and Jay-Z. Thats a pretty exclusive list.

& i think AZ is one of the greatest regardless of what Em has to say

remarK 05-02-2012 11:38 AM

completely disagree, but those verses were dope from Hollo.

I like how people are going to shit all over AZ now because Pulse holds him on a pedestal. lol

Krhyme Killz 05-02-2012 11:39 AM

pULSe....AZ doesnt say anything that regular street niggas say yo...

and its not a matter of shitting on dude...i actually fuck with Az...but damn yo...NaS is considerably better, and you saying that Em listed AZ as an influence....so you saying it like God Himself co-signed.

Just C 05-02-2012 11:46 AM

Lol @ How Many Grammy's you won? Hahahahaha ur a fucking nerd.

Who gives a fuck if Eminem co signs him? You corny faggot follower. Hahahaha.

Aye yo. Malboro said a 100 cigs a day is good for the old lungs and ticker

The fuck you mean that's not true. How many Cigs YOU sold?!?!

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Basically Pulse is saying he acquires his tastes through other peoples say so and approval. Why bring co signer's into a debate about taste? All you're doing is making your self look like a brainless sheep.

Anonymous Poet 05-02-2012 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pU1Se (Post 791684)
Not Even The Same League As Jay-Z, Nas, Pac, Biggie Or Maybe
They Name Me Somewhere Down At The Bottom, Right After AZ

Dont get me wrong I like AZ. But in this line u posted Eminem states that he is underrated. He says they dont place me with the big dogs 'jay z nas, pac etc' they just place me with the lower tier rappers such as 'AZ'...

IV 05-02-2012 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just € (Post 791692)
I'm not saying he's whack. I'm saying he's aiiight. He doesn't say anything amazing nor does he SAY IT in a a great way. He's just aiiiight.

His verse on The Firm could have been spat by someone on let's beef tbh. He didn't have a great message and it was all "been done before" n cliche. And again his delivery was pretty bland tbh.

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Yes I know The Firm is a Very old track. But times change. Tastes change and people advance.

I meant to me it looks like eminem is saying AZ is wack and right at the bottom

remarK 05-02-2012 11:58 AM

to me it's just like comparing Hollo to AZ is comparing apples to bananas. They are absolutely nothing alike. So why? haha

to try and school pulse? nahh

I mean let's be honest. AZ is nasty and there is no way in hell I would ever listen to Hollo's music more than his. There's such an atmospheric tone you get from AZ's music... and i guess it's also an NY thing... or Jerz or anywhere near here.

Just C 05-02-2012 11:59 AM

And @remarK I got nothing against AZ. Like I said I think he's aight. And I know you like his music. But the thing is you don't go around making 20 threads on his dick trying to drill it into us that he's Top 5 DOA then call us stupid as if he's so complex we couldn't POSSIBLY comprehend what AZ raps, like Pulse. That pretty much sums up how we got to this point lol.

And as for that quote of Em's. All he's saying is that AZ is underrated. But tbh there are different degrees of underrated from slightly to extremely And Nowhere in that quote does he express the extent and he certainly doesn't mention AZ being in his top 5 in there. All you have to go off is some half assed Wiki "Quote" I mean it's not like Wikipedia hasn't been a source for completely misleading nonsense before, has it?

remarK 05-02-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just € (Post 791708)
And @remarK I got nothing against AZ. Like I said I think he's aight. And I know you like his music. But the thing is you don't go around making 20 threads on his dick trying to drill it into us that he's Top 5 DOA then call us stupid as if he's so complex we couldn't POSSIBLY comprehend what AZ raps, like Pulse. That pretty much sums up how we got to this point lol.

And as for that quote of Em's. All he's saying is that AZ is underrated. But tbh there are different degrees of underrated from slightly to extremely And Nowhere in that quote does he express the extent and he certainly doesn't mention AZ bring in his top 5 in there. All you have to go off is some half assed Wiki "Quote" I mean it's not like Wikipedia hasn't been a source for completely misleading nonsense before, has it?

oh aiight, I got you.

I'm not on here enough to see Pulse doing that haha but yeah I've seen one thread on it.

I don't know, man. That whole bit about anything he's ever rapped or written might have went too far though hahaha

but i see you were just trying to make a point to get @ pulse

Just C 05-02-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by remarK (Post 791707)
it's also an NY thing... or Jerz or anywhere near here.

That's pretty much what I out it down to tbh. Obviously it's about taste but there is a big patriotic thing going on here. There is nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying.

And tbh if Hollo spat at that caliber on a consistent basis I would MUCH rather prefer listening to him than AZ any day of the week. I mean even the raw emotion and heart he display's trumps AZ's for form of expression. But then again I'm not from NY. That's probably why. I have no ulterior motive other than what I think is sick to my ears.

But don't get me wrong I'm not hating. He can spit. It's just personally nothing as spectacular as Pulse makes it out to be. Just my preference.

ItsNaturill 05-02-2012 12:08 PM

ra the rugged (2nd verse) shits on them all :)

remarK 05-02-2012 12:12 PM

I feel you...

I like a lot of music that's outside of NY though.. or America for that matter. I just posted that thread about Skepta and N-Dubz. As long as you feel something when you listen to the track, That's what matters.

That's why I don't solely listen to rap too... I gotta have other genres in the mix.

ItsNaturill 05-02-2012 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by remarK (Post 791714)
I feel you...

I like a lot of music that's outside of NY though.. or America for that matter. I just posted that thread about Skepta and N-Dubz. As long as you feel something when you listen to the track, That's what matters.

That's why I don't solely listen to rap too... I gotta have other genres in the mix.

lol n dubz arent the best tbh skepta was cool when he was with klashnekoff but part from that not really peep this vid tho....

Ticket 05-02-2012 12:15 PM

All I'm sayin tho... is all these fucking Stans bring Eminem into EVERY SINGLE FUCKING RAP ARGUMENT EVER... Like wtf cares about what Eminem thinks... shit is ultra pathetic to me... I fuck wit AZ, but he isn't in my iPod.

ItsNaturill 05-02-2012 12:16 PM

and this................. :D

Ticket 05-02-2012 12:16 PM

Quit wit that shit Natrill.. no one gives a fuck about you or what you think or what you listen to..

remarK 05-02-2012 12:17 PM

I'm not saying Skepta is the best lol just that I enjoy his music

there is no THE BEST conversation ever coming from me. lol

Ticket 05-02-2012 12:18 PM

oh and whaddup @remarK whats poppin holmes

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oh and whaddup @remarK whats poppin holmes

Just C 05-02-2012 12:19 PM

Yeah I hear ya Re.

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And Nah Skillz I haven't seen that battle yet. Im'a check it out though.

ItsNaturill 05-02-2012 12:20 PM

lol @ Ticket acting like theres a hiarachi on rap based web forum ..... peep this too...real shit... ugly dude...but real shit

remarK 05-02-2012 12:22 PM

what's good Ticket? aint shit really, chillin.. bout to head out in a bit.

Phoenix 05-02-2012 12:23 PM

Eminem top are from Till I Collapse....:Reggie,Jay-z,Tupac and beggie,andre from outkast,Nas and then me(eminem not me)...That from the song.

ItsNaturill 05-02-2012 12:24 PM

but if im not put on this list this shit does not offend me


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