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BTD 04-13-2012 01:37 PM

Fuck It...
 
i know mods already discussed this but i still wanna state my case...my bad rhet but...

http://www.letsbeef.com/tournament_b...945&section=tb

^^scheme tourny battle where i was DQed for using "extra syllables"

if you read my verse carefully its the same 4 syllable scheme, different from the killz situation(no offense) cuz my scheme still works when you look at the last 4 syllables

PERFECTION WITH CLASS,COLLECTING A TAB,INTERCEPTING MCNABB,SEX IN THE TRASH,SELECTION IS BAD,REJECTION WITH BRAD,PROGRESSION AND BRAGS,OBSESSIONS WITH FAB,PROFESSIONS IN CABS,INFECTIONS AND SCABS

^^
doesnt look like a 4 syllable scheme throughout,but is it not??

perFECTION WITH CLASS,collECTING A TAB,interCEPTING MCNABB,SEX IN THE TRASH,selecTION IS BAD,rejecTION WITH BRAD,proGRESSION AND BRAGS,obSESSION WITH FAB,proFESSIONS IN CABS,inFECTIONS AND SCABS

ive seen ppl do this in the 1st round and ive did it in the first round as well so im confused to why im getting DQed now

reEFer 04-13-2012 01:44 PM

i seen this and got confused myself lol.. bullshit dq :high:

Krhyme Killz 04-13-2012 02:03 PM

how is this different than mines though yo?

ViTRiOL 04-13-2012 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itz Killz (Post 781831)
how is this different than mines though yo?

Your scheme consisted of 4 syllables.

Phroxen already explained this. You only rhymed the first and last syllable of the scheme, with nothing but fluff in the middle, henceforth you couldn't justify it as a 3 syllable scheme, as the last 3 syllables of each scheme didn't add up without the first and last syllable to keep the rhyme structure together. If you COULD justify it as a 3 syllable scheme, then it would've been a very shit one.

BTD's case it different. He's getting DQ'd because of confusion: He capped the preluding syllable (seemingly the first one) which had people considering it as a 5 syllable scheme, but the first syllable of the (seemingly) "5 syllable" multies is irrelevant throughout, henceforth it's made obsolete in the context of the scheme itself. He took a risky strategy in doing so. If he typed sparTIC throughout, he wouldn't he DQ'd, so it's just a case of the capping... which is fucking retarded.

This is a ridiculous DQ.

People need to be more perceptive.

Tsch...

Phil Banks 04-13-2012 02:15 PM

pretty bad when u gotta cap your mutlies in the first place...

ViTRiOL 04-13-2012 02:31 PM

Killz's Scheme in Round 1:

FUCK IS DIS GUY? / SUCH A SURPRISE / MOTHER GETS HIGH / RUBBIN HIS THIGH / SUCKS IT INSIDE / BLUSH WITH DELIGHT

^ Works as a lazy four syllable scheme.

BUT ...

(fuck) IS DIS GUY? / (such) A SURPRISE / (moth)ER GETS HIGH / (rub)BIN HIS THIGH / (sucks) IT INSIDE / (blush) WITH DELIGHT

Take away the first syllable, none of it works as a secure scheme. A SURPRISE rhyming with ER GETS HIGH? Yeah, that ain't believable as what you intended.

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Here's the difference with BTD's scheme.
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PERFECTION WITH CLASS / COLLECTING A TAB / INTERCEPTING MCNABB / SEX IN THE TRASH / SELECTION IS BAD / REJECTION WITH BRAD / PROGRESSION AND BRAGS / OBSESSIONS WITH FAB / PROFESSIONS IN CABS / INFECTIONS AND SCABS

I find it impossible to believe how anyone failed to see this. There's a clear 4 syllable scheme there, but it's unseen by people due to nazi LB standards. The white syllables (the first (and sometimes second) capped one(s)) in each multi is complete obsolete in every circumstance. Reading the first few schemes... "PER, COL, INTER, SE" ... Surely the reader must realise that, despite being capped, these syllables have no connection to the scheme he's using? Henceforth, I conclude, capped or un-capped, people should have realised that he was only avoiding spartic typing (which he would have HAD to done to avoid the DQ, which I find ludicrous).

BTD is victim of quick judgement. This is a stupid thing to happen.

Askari 04-13-2012 02:34 PM

Intercepting mcnabb is 6 syllables alone, the rest are all 5.

Sorry dude, I've no issue with you, but it's painfully obvious to me that that's not following a 4 syllable scheme at any but a few points during the verse.

ViTRiOL 04-13-2012 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Askari (Post 781854)
Intercepting mcnabb is 6 syllables alone, the rest are all 5.

Sorry dude, I've no issue with you, but it's painfully obvious to me that that's not following a 4 syllable scheme at any but a few points during the verse.

Askari, if he had only capped the 4 syllables that rhymed in each multi, would he have been disqualified?

I don't think he would.

I know NaturIll's on my team and that, so it must seem odd why I'm being quite aggressive with this, but I believe in standards above anything: BTD's been straight cheated out of the tourney...

Askari 04-13-2012 02:36 PM

Vitty you've missed the point. The words he's capped - to indicate as part of a multi scheme - do not amount to 4 syllables. I can see the scheme there, but those words in the verses current layout do not match the outlined scheme.

Just C 04-13-2012 02:36 PM

But

'Profession With Cabs'

goes with

'Perfection In Class'

and that's 5 syllables.

ViTRiOL 04-13-2012 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Askari (Post 781856)
Vitty you've missed the point. The words he's capped - to indicate as part of a multi scheme - do not amount to 4 syllables. I can see the scheme there, but those words in the verses current layout do not match the outlined scheme.

Henceforth, the REASON he's getting disqualified is because of capping.

It's as simple as that. If he had typed sparTICALLY...

interCEPTING MCNABB, proFESSIONS IN CABS, perFECTION IN CLASS.

No-one would have batted an eye. I can find examples of this done by people in the tourney. Black-Book did it. TalkSick did it. Almighty did it...

Student 04-13-2012 02:40 PM

I See 4 Syllables If He CAPPED Them Properly, He Shouldn't Have To Though.

Just C 04-13-2012 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL (Post 781862)
Henceforth, the REASON he's getting disqualified is because of capping.

It's as simple as that. If he had typed sparTICALLY...

interCEPTING MCNABB, proFESSIONS IN CABS, perFECTION IN CLASS.

No-one would have batted an eye. I can find examples of this done by people in the tourney. Black-Book did it. TalkSick did it. Almighty did it...

No.

inTERCEPTING MCNABB, proFESSIONS IN CABS, PERFECTION IN CLASS.

BTD 04-13-2012 02:43 PM

thats what im sayin tho, am i getting DQed for capping a couple of letters??? i knew the 4 syllable scheme i was following

if were going by askaris logic how come mikey deniro and black book did the same thing in round 1 ?

http://www.letsbeef.com/tournament_b...934&section=tb

mikey deniro uses the scheme COUPE HES IN....and uses multis like eLUSIVENESS,paraCHUTES EQUIPPED,maNEUVERIN,rYU AND KEN

http://www.letsbeef.com/tournament_b...935&section=tb

blackbooks scheme is LONG YA SEE, but uses multis like mariJUANA TREE,aSTRONOMY,maDONNA SING,uGANDA FLEET,pirHANNA TEETH

http://www.letsbeef.com/tournament_b...934&section=tb

Mikey DeNiro 04-13-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BTD (Post 781867)
thats what im sayin tho, am i getting DQed for capping a couple of letters??? i knew the 4 syllable scheme i was following

if were going by askaris logic how come mikey deniro and black book did the same thing in round 1 ?

http://www.letsbeef.com/tournament_b...934&section=tb

mikey deniro uses the scheme COUPE HES IN....and uses multis like eLUSIVENESS,paraCHUTES EQUIPPED,maNEUVERIN,rYU AND KEN

http://www.letsbeef.com/tournament_b...935&section=tb

blackbooks scheme is LONG YA SEE, but uses multis like mariJUANA TREE,aSTRONOMY,maDONNA SING,uGANDA FLEET,pirHANNA TEETH

http://www.letsbeef.com/tournament_b...934&section=tb


the difference in mine is that ELUSIVENESS, PARACHUTES EQUIPPED don't rhyme, if you didn't cap yours or did cap yours they still rhymed either way.

ViTRiOL 04-13-2012 02:49 PM

NirVANA G! (4, with spartic) / pirANHA TEETH (4, with spartic) / andaCONDA SKEET. (5, with spartic) - Black-Book, Round 1, no DQ.

poSESSES ONE (4, with spartic) - Just C, Round 1, no DQ.

paraCHUTES EQUIPPED (5, with spartic) / RyU AN KEN (4, with spartic) / 'ProDUCIN' SCRIPTS (4, with spartic) - Hitman, Round 1, no DQ.

ALOT PER GRAM (4, without spartic) / IMPOSTER BANNED (4, without spartic) - BTD, Round 1, no DQ.

Mikey DeNiro 04-13-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vitriol (Post 781874)
nirvana g! (4, with spartic) / piranha teeth (4, with spartic) / andaconda skeet. (5, with spartic) - black-book, round 1, no dq.

Posesses one (4, with spartic) - just c, round 1, no dq.

alot per gram (4, without spartic) / imposter banned (4, without spartic) - btd, round 1, no dq.

omfg, if they capped those schemes you quoted the first syllable wouldn't rhyme!

Just C 04-13-2012 02:52 PM

Good to see everything's running smoothly.....

ItsNaturill 04-13-2012 02:53 PM

huh... four syllables has four syllables who'd of thought it...

BTD 04-13-2012 02:55 PM

my whole verse is the same 4 syllable scheme.....did i not follow the rules? a couple of multis rhyme as 5 syllable schemes but also work as 4 syllable schemes...why werent we all DQed in round 1 then

you guys are acting like the whole verse was a 5 syllable scheme...

pirhanna teeth and astronomy dont rhyme?? if you let ppl slide in the 1st round how you enforcing this rule in round 2?

ViTRiOL 04-13-2012 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H¡tman (Post 781871)
the difference in mine is that ELUSIVENESS, PARACHUTES EQUIPPED don't rhyme, if you didn't cap yours or did cap yours they still rhymed either way.

That's irrelevant dude.

If he didn't cap the preluding syllables, NO-ONE would have batted an eye. It doesn't matter whether the preluding syllables rhymed or not, because they're not part of the scheme.

Either way, this comes down to how people look at it. Clearly, BTD knew the rules and he definitely didn't intend on presenting a 5/6 syllable scheme. It's still retarded that he's getting DQ'd.

Case closed.

---------- Post added at 07:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:55 PM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by H¡tman (Post 781879)
omfg, if they capped those schemes you quoted the first syllable wouldn't rhyme!

Oh, and also, Nirvana G and Piranha teeth rhyme perfectly, but due to the fact that Black-Book typed them spartically, NO-ONE batted an eye. See where I'm going with this?

BTD has been DQ'd due to the shift button.

Ray Zeus 04-13-2012 02:57 PM

i don't see what's so hard about this... yall saying it rhymed with 5 syllables... but PERFECTING and COLLECTING and INTERCEPTING does not rhyme at all in the first syllable... this is a stupid argument... he definitely shouldn't be DQ'd...

Just C 04-13-2012 03:00 PM

Jesus man

in - TERCEPTING w/ PERFECTING

Mikey DeNiro 04-13-2012 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skilligan™ (Post 781894)
i don't see what's so hard about this... yall saying it rhymed with 5 syllables... but PERFECTING and COLLECTING and INTERCEPTING does not rhyme at all in the first syllable... this is a stupid argument... he definitely shouldn't be DQ'd...

PERFECTING, inTERCEPTING
either way, if we went through everyones battles, i'm sure there's a part where a TO and a Two Rhymed before the actual Scheme was presented.
Fuck it DQ Everyone

ViTRiOL 04-13-2012 03:02 PM

There certainly was enough guidelines at the start of the tourney to ensure full understanding of what was allowed.

BTD isn't a retard like Killz, so he can read the rules.

BTD 04-13-2012 03:03 PM

all i wanted was a legit reason to why i was dqed, every "rule" yall are telling me i broke has been done by at least 1 other person in round 1 or 2

yall gonna make a nigga write 2 16s with some effort than dq me cuz 2 multis have a extra syllable that rhyme?

ViTRiOL 04-13-2012 03:07 PM

I got a feeling the mods just don't want to go back on what they agreed to do in the first place. Just C's argument is silly, seeing as it only addresses two multies. For 90% of the box, it's blatant that he's using a 4 syllable scheme, with the full words within the scheme capped.

As I said, if he typed spartically for every multi, this wouldn't be happening. So his verse should be accepted.

If not, then it's an unjustified DQ.

Mikey DeNiro 04-13-2012 03:12 PM

i mastered text using PERFECTION WITH CLASS so after adding all these shots up you should be COLLECTING A TAB cuz im on my evil-bullshit when i make you "catch this eagles-bullet" like interCEPTING MCNABB and you'll get slayed-by-the-hunters than get "layed-in-a-dumpster"….SEX IN THE TRASH!!he has ATTENTION TO GRAB so ill use the AGGRESION AND SPAZZ while he claimed to be TEXTIN WIT SWAG but his girl left him for me when she seen him DRESSING IN RAGS and she loves riding "low so" its like OBSESSIONS WITH FAB(loso) so i hit it once and grabbed WEAPONS TO BLAST than you'd think i was a ecstasy dealer when i left his "X IN A BAG".after ill be chasing you with the WESSON AND MAG than the pump-with-the-clip will leave you "dumped-by-a-pitt" like REJECTION WITH BRAD,im sugar ray with the punches im always CONNECTING THE JABS so ill "release 36 chambers" on this addict cuz i got "METH IN THE LAB",he aint the best in pyro more like SECOND TO LAST so the crew that your REPPIN IS SAD and your rhyme SELECTION IS BAD cuz he's a rookie who makes a little PROGRESSION AND BRAGS but has stretched punches and needs to "get to the point" like his PROFESSIONS IN CABS.he has QUESTIONS TO ASK but ill hit his NECK WITH A SLASH to leave him with INFECTIONS AND SCABS than use jasons machete to cut his FLESH WITH A STAB than you'll all see his "stomachs ripped" like he's FLEXING HIS ABS.im a star shining and you'll see "Apprent Sun" like LESSONS WITH DADS(a parent son) and he gave me the "will to toss him out" like doing IMPRESSIONS OF JAZZ so this traitor'll get LEFT IN THE GRASS and ill be to lethal-to-escape when i put the eagle-to-this-snake…..MEXICAN FLAG(Bazinga mofucka lol)

in Just Defense theres more than just one multi set. BUT
i'm sure if you go through every battle you'll find something like this that just so happened to rhyme unintentionally.
DQ EVERYONE!

Split Personality 04-13-2012 03:14 PM

Picking what letters to cap & allocate it as your rhyme scheme in a scheme tournament = DQ.

Using words with 5, 6 or 7 syllables and "using" 4 is sheer laziness. I really don't see how anybody can complain.

ViTRiOL 04-13-2012 03:17 PM

So Mikey, you actually think he deserves to be DQ'd because he forgot to uncap the irrelevant syllables?

Mikey DeNiro 04-13-2012 03:19 PM

Ya Battle Against Piff BANKZ WAS FAKE SINCE That "Kick The Bucket" Line was PLAYED AN TAKEN, and "I'm not gonna give anybody credit for something another man did." so watch how you "FRAZIER" STATEMENTS!! shiiiit, i'll prolly ReaRRANGE HIS FACE QUICK, to resemble what Picasso PorTRAYED IN PAINTIN'S!! I'm GREAT WHEN AIMIN So If he Thinks He's "Bullet Proof" Like DAMON WAYANS I'll Pull-An-Shoot To show'm what a "MAJOR PAIN" IS!! Just By Looking At Ya FaceBook, In My SPACE YOUR ANUS, like a PAGE CREATED about planets for people to like and follow on a DAILY BASIS!! and i hope you ReFRAIN FROM SAYIN, anything about my Live Battles Or Accomplishments i've ATTAINED TODAY SINCE, "No One Knows you Outside Of This Site" Like Construction Workers On the Clock TAKIN BREAKS BITCH!! i mean ya girl even thinks you LAME AND BASIC, so when that Hoe Tell You We Were Sleeping together it AINT THE DAYS INN!! I'm Cruising On this Champion Ship, so how you MAKING WAVES WHEN, we sea you stuck at the bottom like an ANCHORS PLACEMENT!! Ya Herd, I'm Pasture Beef, So if You RAISIN STEAKS KID I'll Fuck up ya Rasta like an Earth QUAKE WAS SHAKIN The JaMAICAN NATION and thats just to Set It Off Right, cause When "I Drop and Correct'm On Site" its Not LASIC PATIENTS!! See This Black Book Has The BLANKEST PAGES, and still ReMAINS TO CLAIM HIS GAUGE IS SPRAYIN, But You Can Tell From His Hands, He's Like Liu KANG HE'S FLAMIN!! Faggot The Best Moves To Back(←) Down(↓) B ... before i light up ya GAME AN RAID IN, with a Sonya BLADE AN SHANK HIM, split'm aka Johnny CAGE HIS FRAME THEN for the Fatality, I'm Having-This-Bitch-Try, to Run After-his-Insides... Now He's PAPER CHASIN!! G.O.A.T.

FAME 04-13-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL (Post 781915)
So Mikey, you actually think he deserves to be DQ'd because he forgot to uncap the irrelevant syllables?

I think it's harsh, but still agree with the decision.

The only reason people CAP their multi's on this site is to make it clear where the rhymes are.

So with that fact in place, BTD made it clear that his rhymes were longer than the set syllable count in a lot of places.

Mikey DeNiro 04-13-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL (Post 781915)
So Mikey, you actually think he deserves to be DQ'd because he forgot to uncap the irrelevant syllables?

i'm just showing that he clearly rhymed 5 syllable multi's more than once. and it APPEARS as if he meant to do it.

Ra¡n Matrix 04-13-2012 03:25 PM

Wait wait wait THIS is LB now? We all knew capping the multis was bad, but its our style, so we kept it. But now making an UnEtHiCaL outta your multis is required? Both big and small caps is NEEDED in the rhyme? Wow.

BTD 04-13-2012 03:25 PM

i mastered text using PERFECTION WITH CLASS so after adding all these shots up you should be COLLECTING A TAB cuz im on my evil-bullshit when i make you "catch this eagles-bullet" like interCEPTING MCNABB and you'll get slayed-by-the-hunters than get "layed-in-a-dumpster"….SEX IN THE TRASH!!he has ATTENTION TO GRAB so ill use the AGGRESION AND SPAZZ while he claimed to be TEXTIN WIT SWAG but his girl left him for me when she seen him DRESSING IN RAGS and she loves riding "low so" its like OBSESSIONS WITH FAB(loso) so i hit it once and grabbed WEAPONS TO BLAST than you'd think i was a ecstasy dealer when i left his "X IN A BAG".after ill be chasing you with the WESSON AND MAG than the pump-with-the-clip will leave you "dumped-by-a-pitt" like REJECTION WITH BRAD,im sugar ray with the punches im always CONNECTING THE JABS so ill "release 36 chambers" on this addict cuz i got "METH IN THE LAB",he aint the best in pyro more like SECOND TO LAST so the crew that your REPPIN IS SAD and your rhyme SELECTION IS BAD cuz he's a rookie who makes a little PROGRESSION AND BRAGS but has stretched punches and needs to "get to the point" like his PROFESSIONS IN CABS.he has QUESTIONS TO ASK but ill hit his NECK WITH A SLASH to leave him with INFECTIONS AND SCABS than use jasons machete to cut his FLESH WITH A STAB than you'll all see his "stomachs ripped" like he's FLEXING HIS ABS.im a star shining and you'll see "Apprent Sun" like LESSONS WITH DADS(a parent son) and he gave me the "will to toss him out" like doing IMPRESSIONS OF JAZZ so this traitor'll get LEFT IN THE GRASS and ill be to lethal-to-escape when i put the eagle-to-this-snake…..MEXICAN FLAG(Bazinga mofucka lol)

i see your point mikey but do you see mine?...i aint a moron i knew the rules and was this not following it?

Mikey DeNiro 04-13-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BTD (Post 781923)
i mastered text using PERFECTION WITH CLASS so after adding all these shots up you should be COLLECTING A TAB cuz im on my evil-bullshit when i make you "catch this eagles-bullet" like interCEPTING MCNABB and you'll get slayed-by-the-hunters than get "layed-in-a-dumpster"….SEX IN THE TRASH!!he has ATTENTION TO GRAB so ill use the AGGRESION AND SPAZZ while he claimed to be TEXTIN WIT SWAG but his girl left him for me when she seen him DRESSING IN RAGS and she loves riding "low so" its like OBSESSIONS WITH FAB(loso) so i hit it once and grabbed WEAPONS TO BLAST than you'd think i was a ecstasy dealer when i left his "X IN A BAG".after ill be chasing you with the WESSON AND MAG than the pump-with-the-clip will leave you "dumped-by-a-pitt" like REJECTION WITH BRAD,im sugar ray with the punches im always CONNECTING THE JABS so ill "release 36 chambers" on this addict cuz i got "METH IN THE LAB",he aint the best in pyro more like SECOND TO LAST so the crew that your REPPIN IS SAD and your rhyme SELECTION IS BAD cuz he's a rookie who makes a little PROGRESSION AND BRAGS but has stretched punches and needs to "get to the point" like his PROFESSIONS IN CABS.he has QUESTIONS TO ASK but ill hit his NECK WITH A SLASH to leave him with INFECTIONS AND SCABS than use jasons machete to cut his FLESH WITH A STAB than you'll all see his "stomachs ripped" like he's FLEXING HIS ABS.im a star shining and you'll see "Apprent Sun" like LESSONS WITH DADS(a parent son) and he gave me the "will to toss him out" like doing IMPRESSIONS OF JAZZ so this traitor'll get LEFT IN THE GRASS and ill be to lethal-to-escape when i put the eagle-to-this-snake…..MEXICAN FLAG(Bazinga mofucka lol)

i see your point mikey but do you see mine?...i aint a moron i knew the rules and was this not following it?

no i completely understand you BTD, its not that, its the fact that it appears as if you meant to whether you did or not.

Split Personality 04-13-2012 03:28 PM

Perfection with class = 5 syllables. DQ was correct.

ViTRiOL 04-13-2012 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Split Personality (Post 781925)
Perfection with class = 5 syllables. DQ was correct.

Haha, you're late.

Just C 04-13-2012 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Split Personality (Post 781925)
Perfection with class = 5 syllables. DQ was correct.

That's what I'm saying. There are clearly parts where you used 5. Just proof read before you post. As for the other ppl I cant comment as I've not read them but in this case I've seen you can't really argue with the decision.

It looks like scheme tourneys will be a short lived thing as people haven't got a clue how to do them.

BTD 04-13-2012 03:39 PM

and what im saying is if your gonna do it like that, there were ppl who used 4 syllables in some parts throughout there 3 syllable verses including me and mikey just clearly showed you he had a couple 5 syllable rhymes but still had a consistant 4 syllable scheme...is that not all that matters? is if you have a consistant 4 syllable scheme...


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