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Just C 03-06-2012 09:25 AM

Confused By 1 bar
 
For "Son to be in front of me" he had to really "plan it, or bit" (planet orbit)

Is it just me Or is there a past and present tense issue here?

Surely it had to be

Planned it or bit

Or

Plan it or Bite

I´m not trying to be akward. I just checked the battle after seeing Wish won.

I didn´t even read Askari´s bar. I just wanted to see the winning bar.

But am I missing something here? Or with what I said in mind. Does that Word Play not work 100%, making it a stretch?

UNKNOWN ARTIST 03-06-2012 09:32 AM

He had to really plan it ... Or he bit

He planned his strategy a lot

Both past tense

Just C 03-06-2012 09:35 AM

I dunno I´m reading it and not getting that from it. It´s all good though. it just bugged me. congrats on the win.

Godbody 03-06-2012 09:39 AM

just because he put the word "HAD" before plan it or bit

it probably makes sense. Now if it was HAS instead of HAD we'd have serious tense issues

UNKNOWN ARTIST 03-06-2012 09:42 AM

Think of the "or bit" as an afterthought that's why I put a comma in there if I had space I'd have wrote

He had to really plan it........ Or bit

Just C 03-06-2012 09:49 AM

Aight yeah. I got ya´s. It just read mad wierd the first few times and I couldn´t get my head around it. Like Pulse said it´s the Had before that probably threw me. But yeah it works with Bit as an Afterthought. Like I said wasn´t tryna down play the bar it just threw me n I needed to ask.

Carry on. lol

Revan 03-06-2012 09:51 AM

The "Or Bit" part prolly would of worked better in brackets.

He had to "Plan It" (Or Bit...)

Either way shut up u spanish fannyflap.

UNKNOWN ARTIST 03-06-2012 09:56 AM

Brackets would have been better

Revan 03-06-2012 10:00 AM

RULE > UA

We know this.

---------- Post added at 03:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:59 PM ----------

& Wheres ya excluisve gone?

Erupt da Monsta 03-06-2012 10:39 AM

The bar flowd n made sense. Congratskies

RhetoriK 03-06-2012 12:09 PM

lol@RULE giving Wordplay pointers ;) Congrats UA!

Revan 03-06-2012 12:16 PM

My wordplay is crack, i drop an average one every now and again to let lames like you stay in sight lol

1/

Phroxen 03-06-2012 12:27 PM

The concept makes sense, but as it reads it isn't grammatically correct:

(he had to) have planned it, or bit it

(he had to) have planned it, or he bit

(he had to really plan it) or bite it

(he had to really plan it) or he bit


Moral of the story: "or bit" isnt working in past perfect tense. If you said he either planned it or bit the tense is fixed, but it's still stretching pronunciation of "planet or bit"... either way, enough people thought it was enough to win.

Phracture 03-06-2012 12:35 PM

"idc whether you plan it or bit" comes out the best with the WP ... but fuck it he got the win .

Phroxen 03-06-2012 12:39 PM

^youve got the same tense problem there.

UNKNOWN ARTIST 03-06-2012 12:59 PM

Look ... It's the best way to word it keeping it making the most sense in both ways ... It's the first few words of the set up ... Not the main punch .... Getting a little fed up with people putting my lines under the microspcope when they should spend more time focusing on their own.

EpidemikK 03-06-2012 01:11 PM

it's a fuckinf rap site not an english class you hear people changes how words are promounced and even change tense so that it sounds good with people still understanding what they are talking about everyone knew what he mean so stfu and enjoy the bar!!! oh and wtf is up UA??? see you stil got that guy playing in your A-hole huh??? :high:

Just C 03-06-2012 01:20 PM

UA I wasn´t trying to be funny with you. I put thast line under the scope like I would any 1 elses. But

---------- Post added at 02:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:18 PM ----------

I get that its getting a little tired. Proxen seems to be on the same wavelenght as me on this. but it´s w.e it just threw n bugged me. I don´t really care that much . Congrats on the win. Thats all.

As for epidemikk. The English language is key. if you´re pronouncing things in broken english. it simply doesn´t work. Wording is key.

Student 03-06-2012 01:20 PM

Y'all Some Fucking Nerds, There's Slang All Over Hip-Hop And Yes I Get The Importance Of Structure And Readability But Come On! That Wasn't That Big Of Deal.
#RandomRantNotDirectedAtSaidTopicAtAll

Carry On My Wayward Son...

BLNK 03-06-2012 02:00 PM

It made sense to me with the comma.

Tek Notez 03-06-2012 02:34 PM

you say "had to plan it" not had to planned it", the bar is good and there are no mistakes lol

congratz UA

:monkey:

Prose_ 03-06-2012 03:55 PM

Askaris bar was executed in an akward way but UAs bar was kinda played. I feel as if people straight up overlooked that a bit. No doubt UA won and I'm not tryna be an asshole but let's not act like that was UAs best.

That being said... Congrats.. U, Rule, and Daddio in a 3 way tie for GOAT in my book.

Just C 03-06-2012 06:58 PM

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imtoopissed for this right niw.

Phroxen 03-06-2012 08:11 PM

Allow me to speak for @Just C .

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN ARTIST
It's the best way to word it keeping it making the most sense in both ways ... It's the first few words of the set up ... Not the main punch .... Getting a little fed up with people putting my lines under the microspcope when they should spend more time focusing on their own.

In your own words, you just said that the wording in your setup wasn't good. Other people in this thread who actually know what they're talking about are agreeing with this. That's all that's being said.

I see what @Verity was talking about in that other thread. It's sad how people hold back from criticizing people because they think they're gonna catch feelings or some shit. lol @ microscope.

Look, here's a microscope..



Quote:

Originally Posted by YOU WISH
For "Son to be in front of me" he had to really "plan it, or bit"(planet orbit) cuz I'm unSHAKEABLE HERE so if you "think he's a star" then MAYBE IT'S CLEAR I'm "rapping rings around son" every DAY OF THE YEAR

Most people probably missed the point that you used a weak opener (son to be in front of me). You had to call him "son" which is lame, especially when your entire bar focuses on that. Plus, most son/sun wordplay is preschool shit. It's like holmes/homes.. "Unshakeable here" is a filler multi that doesn't tie into your theme or do anything else besides slightly boast. "Think he's a star / (w)rapping rings around son".. again, same "son" shit I mentioned before. Plus the double meanings are weak here.. you'll rap circles around him... because people think he's a star.. and the sun is a star.. so you'll call him son and make it all work out? Pfft. PLUS, going back to your first part "son to be in front of me / planet orbit".. in front of me is a stretch that most will overlook. Each planet spins on an axis, therefore "sun" won't be in front of them all the time. You could've said "for son to be behind me" and it'd make the same amount of sense.


Moral of the story: You won with a weak bar. Congrats.

Student 03-06-2012 09:10 PM

Granted I'm Not Even An Average Texter BUT I'm Pretty Sure unSHAKEABLE HERE Refers To The Way A Planet's Orbit Is Unmovable And Here Refers To "Space" So For Me, Yes It Made Sense.

Askari 03-07-2012 02:10 AM

Both bars were sloppy, it just so happens mines was sloppier. That's what happens when you rush things lol.

remarK 03-07-2012 02:41 AM

I thought the bar was ill ..

reminded me of the battle I had with you, Rule. Where i said somethin' like: "you couldn't beat me if you recycled "Or-Bit a Cat" like sending animals to space" lol

Just C 03-07-2012 03:45 AM

Man I was fucked up last night. I´m not getting like that again. Jeus. But yeah Everyone got different opinions, I said my peice. otheres said theres. lets leave it at that.

Congrats on another 1 bar win my man.

Catharsis 03-07-2012 03:55 AM

This is the Text vs Audio thing right here.
In Text if the tense or sentence structure is incorrect it throws it off at least initially for the reader, as where in Audio your flow is your flow...no one could misinterpret it.

UNKNOWN ARTIST 03-07-2012 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phroxen (Post 762461)
Allow me to speak for @Just C .



In your own words, you just said that the wording in your setup wasn't good. Other people in this thread who actually know what they're talking about are agreeing with this. That's all that's being said.

I see what @Verity was talking about in that other thread. It's sad how people hold back from criticizing people because they think they're gonna catch feelings or some shit. lol @ microscope.

Look, here's a microscope..





Most people probably missed the point that you used a weak opener (son to be in front of me). You had to call him "son" which is lame, especially when your entire bar focuses on that. Plus, most son/sun wordplay is preschool shit. It's like holmes/homes.. "Unshakeable here" is a filler multi that doesn't tie into your theme or do anything else besides slightly boast. "Think he's a star / (w)rapping rings around son".. again, same "son" shit I mentioned before. Plus the double meanings are weak here.. you'll rap circles around him... because people think he's a star.. and the sun is a star.. so you'll call him son and make it all work out? Pfft. PLUS, going back to your first part "son to be in front of me / planet orbit".. in front of me is a stretch that most will overlook. Each planet spins on an axis, therefore "sun" won't be in front of them all the time. You could've said "for son to be behind me" and it'd make the same amount of sense.


Moral of the story: You won with a weak bar. Congrats.

This is getting boring now....No ... There was no filler..student gets it... And where did I imply he had to be in front of me all the time?... Your the one whos streatching trying to find flaws .... I just checked your most recent battle ...That was ALL filler... I wouldn't stoop so low as to start posting your bars but maybe you should turn that microscope on your own shit and spend the same amount of time and effort there ... Might be time better spent

Revan 03-07-2012 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by remarK (Post 762608)
I thought the bar was ill ..

reminded me of the battle I had with you, Rule. Where i said somethin' like: "you couldn't beat me if you recycled "Or-Bit a Cat" like sending animals to space" lol

Why you gotta bring up that beatin for? lmaoooo

Barz© 03-07-2012 10:32 AM

The tourny was rigged lol. Everyones knows it.

Ohs 03-07-2012 11:56 AM

tbh, that bar was so fucking bad, didnt make no sense to me, the or-bit part was just out of place...and i aint hatin, just how it is


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