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Just C 01-21-2012 05:33 PM

FVC Will Soon Be No More Because
 
Staff have been talking about removing the FVC from Lets Beef. Personally I don't want to see this happen. Granted activity has been an issue but having educated voters out there with higher vp and a place to drop battle links. No matter how rare FVC member vote is FAR better than having no FVC at all. I'm sure alot of you will understand my logic. . . Okay so this is the deal. . . alot of you will know my circumstances and alot of you won't. But due to the position I am in I'm no longer in a good position to actively and efficiently oversee the FVC and all that comes w/it. I just can't . . So I made the decision to step down. I have offered the responsabillity to another Mod. Though he is willing to offer suggestions and help I'm pretty sure he's not interested in taking the job on full time. Fair play. Whatever. I have asked to be taken off the FVC a while back but for w.e reason it hasn't happened yet. Thats why I'm here. I want to get somebody to replace as well as you guys put across your ideas to help ot work as well as why you think it should continue (If you feel it should) if you don't speak your mind aswell. So put across why you think it should stay, ideas to make it work, nominate someone you think trustworthy to take my place and when I feel we have enough I will copy this into the staff forum so Pugz and the rest of the staff can co.e to a decision which is best for the site. Remember I'm posting this so you can do your part. Don't let it go to waste if you feel strongly about it. Because if you don't? there's a chance that you could be kicking yourself later on and regret it when it's gone. The FVC has been tried numerous times and fallen flat on it's ass every single time (this time probably being the most successfull) so once it's gone? I can pretty much garuntee you that it won't be back again. Aight. The balls in your court.

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My bad for the typos. fucking keys smh.

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If there is anything you're unsure of just ask and I'll answer any questions.

lllllllllllll 01-21-2012 05:38 PM

It should stay. Too many new cats are signing up and just voting whenever they feel. Plus my thread looks gorgeous & well formatted. :)

But, If this goes down, there will be a hand full of complaints & bs.

i see where your coming from though

Anonymous Poet 01-21-2012 05:39 PM

The FVC is/was a dope idea but to me it aint beein executed to the fullest.

Like, i've never seen all the FVC actively voting on battles and droppin knowledge. (Correct me if im wrong)

What I'd do to make it work is post threads on both the Audio and Text sections named 'FVC Voting thread' (and sticky them). This is gonna be a thread where all the fvc members are obliged to check everytime the log on and vote on every single fuckin link posted with a detailed expo of their vote.

If they don't do that shit then they ought to be replaced with other members who are willing to do it.

Personally i want a FVC team. The voters here are non existant, so if the team goes then votin will take a huge downfall.

It need to be organized correctly though and have a new mod or something that will be HEAVILY involved with takin care of it. I aint throwin dirt on you JUST cause i know you other issues to work with and shit, but a mod strictly for the FVC to make sure all voters are doing their thing is needed

AfterThought 01-21-2012 05:42 PM

@Just C Remember the poll idea you announced a while ago? The one that people vote on who was active & voting etc.
That should've been done. I also agree with a mod being assigned to be strictly an FVC mod.
The FVC CANT be taken off though..

IV 01-21-2012 05:44 PM

To keep it short....

I would happily run the FVC.

Personally, recently i have noticed a HUGE difference in activity of FVC and long detailed expos on battles, the detail of expos and fair ratings. and i mean REALISTIC ratings. I think the voting system is back on the way up.

Getting rid of the FVC would be ridiculous, all the progress voting has made would have been pointless and it will be the same old slept on battles and noobs voting for credits.

I've been here since 2006, watched the voting die and can recognise that it's finally on it's way back up again, the FVC has some EXTREMELY valuable members right now (also some who should lose their title and VP due to inactivity) and to lose it the whole site could potentially die with it.

-Dimez- 01-21-2012 05:45 PM

How do you join FVC? I've dropped at least 3-5 voting threads, I always read the battles and drop the fairest vote with an expo. :high:

Just C 01-21-2012 05:48 PM

Thinking about it It might be better if we have a few dedicated FVC mods to share the responabillity and workload. Just dedicated to FVC like has been said so they dont get distracted from the task at hand. That could work. And I agree anon the poll I planned should have been done.

lllllllllllll 01-21-2012 05:49 PM

@DEADICATION You join the FVC based on how you vote, not how many battles you voted on..

AfterThought 01-21-2012 05:50 PM

If I had to pick the mods, say 3? Verity, Anonyme & Askari. (Ask isnt THAT active though.)

-Dimez- 01-21-2012 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iONu (Post 742936)
@DEADICATION You join the FVC based on how you vote, not how many battles you voted on..

Nice...wanna take a look at some of the battles I've voted on?

Anonymous Poet 01-21-2012 05:53 PM

@ All the Admins and Stuff who want it closed.

If the FVC shuts down then votin will be fuuuuucked up on this site for real.

@Just C

It aint hard to organize it fam. As long as you have the two threads and have one/two mods chasing around FVC members then shit will be doooope.

@AfterThought just gave some classick examples lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Just C (Post 742935)
Thinking about it It might be better if we have a few dedicated FVC mods to share the responabillity and workload. Just dedicated to FVC like has been said so they dont get distracted from the task at hand. That could work. And I agree anon the poll I planned should have been done.

I'd start with one mod and see if another one is needed afterwards though.

You don't want the site to be overflowing with bastards wearing green coats

lllllllllllll 01-21-2012 05:53 PM

suuurre.....

Just C 01-21-2012 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEADICATION (Post 742934)
How do you join FVC? I've dropped at least 3-5 voting threads, I always read the battles and drop the fairest vote with an expo. :high:

You have to apply to be in the FVC.

-Dimez- 01-21-2012 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iONu (Post 742941)
suuurre.....

Nvr mind...u aint even in FVC u cunt lol

lllllllllllll 01-21-2012 05:57 PM

lol yea i am.... well i think i still am...
http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105289
havent been confirmed if i am still apart of it though.
even though i'm still gettin busy with the votes..

Just C 01-21-2012 05:59 PM

Yeah I think 3 might be a bit too much @AT. I do think Anonyme and Verity would be a good look tbh. I'd feel comfortable with them 2 looking after it.

Anonymous Poet 01-21-2012 06:05 PM

*hand over the titles*

@Verity we'll make a rough duo sexy

-Dimez- 01-21-2012 06:08 PM

There's my application...

http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showt...949#post742949

Blocc 01-21-2012 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just C (Post 742946)
Yeah I think 3 might be a bit too much @AT. I do think Anonyme and Verity would be a good look tbh. I'd feel comfortable with them 2 looking after it.

agreed with @Just C and if the FVC dies it'd be a big mistake on all parts cause all to some member of FVC and FVC trials including myself...have stepped up the expos a bit and advice to help the other members elevate in areas they couldnt see til shit is broken down.....and most are here to help others elevate as well as a fair playing fied on letsbeef.....all battled deserve more than a FV VB NH personally i think that for an expo/ comment is complete bull shit and should be shown whats good and whats wrong and how to get better.....thats my opinon

Anonymous Poet 01-21-2012 06:14 PM

fv vb nh is only commented by noobs/snipers who think they are the best at this shit.

They just dont even read the battle and vote by guessin, just so they can get quick creds so no one steals their 'holy opens'.

IV 01-21-2012 06:15 PM

LOL @Anonyme that made me laugh

@Just C i'm happy to do so if anon is also. Honestly though this shit can't get shut down, not only does it improve the voting system for heavyweight battles, but also i give long detailed expo's on 'lightweight' battles and nearly always get PM'd thanking for the honesty and tips on improving. I know a few other FVC members do this too, but i guess thats more behind the scenes and doesn't get noticed but i think it does make a difference to the site

AfterThought 01-21-2012 06:33 PM

I think this will majorly help the voting side of the site. Maybe even have Verity for the text side of the FVC and Anon for the audio or vice versa. Audio side needs more FVC voters.
P.S I vote on audio battles when the player works, it usually doesn't. :smh:

Anonymous Poet 01-21-2012 06:34 PM

Yup I'm down V.

AT's idea is dope. One for the audio and one for the Text side...Dont mind whichever I get

IV 01-21-2012 06:37 PM

Probably be best with you audio and me text tbh. Dope idea from AT though

Anonymous Poet 01-21-2012 06:42 PM

I'm cool with whatever.

If we are to be put in charge then i dont have a problem

KING WHUT 01-21-2012 07:01 PM

give it back to me... talk to mindless i have done it once before... you ladys might not remember but i have a huge part of the First FVC... WHUT?

AfterThought 01-21-2012 07:04 PM

You're not that active anymore...WHUT?
:D

KING WHUT 01-21-2012 07:04 PM

im online all day long.. i just dont battle any more since i dont have a mic right now... i work out of my house so im always online....

Revan 01-21-2012 07:11 PM

Calm ya pannies everyone, nothings been decided yet lol/

IV 01-21-2012 07:15 PM

Just discussing alternatives to closing the FVC completely ruler

Revan 01-21-2012 07:21 PM

FVC Elite, very elitest group of voters who are granted 4VP & exclusive membership for the duration of there FVC service as a result, ran by a natural born leader respected by all.

Hows that?

IV 01-21-2012 07:25 PM

Are you the natural born leader respected by all by any chance? Lmao. That's a good idea though.

Had a few others suggestions for the FVC but you know what you doing ruler

Revan 01-21-2012 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verity (Post 743005)
Are you the natural born leader respected by all by any chance? Lmao. That's a good idea though.

Had a few others suggestions for the FVC but you know what you doing ruler

Possibly lol.

I like the idea of an elite group of educated & active voters, but the FVC in its current format isnt working efficently.

IV 01-21-2012 07:33 PM

You're busy enough ruler, you should hand over some responsibility ;)

I think this elite group should be unblockable

Mindless 01-21-2012 08:57 PM

Didn't read thread

We don't need an FVC. You fuckers should just vote and do it the way you're supposed to all the time w/o having to get a special title to do it.

V3numb 01-21-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verity (Post 742933)
To keep it short....

I would happily run the FVC.

Personally, recently i have noticed a HUGE difference in activity of FVC and long detailed expos on battles, the detail of expos and fair ratings. and i mean REALISTIC ratings. I think the voting system is back on the way up.

Getting rid of the FVC would be ridiculous, all the progress voting has made would have been pointless and it will be the same old slept on battles and noobs voting for credits.

I've been here since 2006, watched the voting die and can recognise that it's finally on it's way back up again, the FVC has some EXTREMELY valuable members right now (also some who should lose their title and VP due to inactivity) and to lose it the whole site could potentially die with it.

agreed 100%.. no pussy riding intended.. i nominate V cause she one of the best FVC's i seen since day one of fvc in general and does her part fair and 100%.. if anyone else is up for it tho lmk i'd compare the 2 or 3 in the spotlight


but yeah agreed with @Just C too tho i can understand al that and feel the same way

IV 01-21-2012 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindless (Post 743050)
Didn't read thread

We don't need an FVC. You fuckers should just vote and do it the way you're supposed to all the time w/o having to get a special title to do it.

To an extent, i agree. We SHOULD vote without a title, and we should leave expo's and try help elevate others.. but people don't. The FVC is kind of incentive to do so. Letsbeef probably SHOULDN'T need a FVC to keep the voting system going... but it does.

lllllllllllll 01-21-2012 09:11 PM

niggas'a do anything for a title

Student 01-21-2012 09:20 PM

I'm Down To Run It, And I Know How To Do It.

Ray Zeus 01-21-2012 09:20 PM

The FVC should stay... because (like someone said before) these newbs are just voting to be voting... and i think that will never change unless the people change... so if you just kill FVC... then alot of members would probably not wanna battle anymore because of getting cheated out of battles... (we all have a couple we was supposed to win)... especially with the pretty good people who actually tries to drop fair votes but have no VP... but the newbs are throwing bull shit votes out there and aint getting caught... if they drop FVC the site might lose a lot of members...

and about managing it... i think first... you need to unsticky the non active people and sticky the active ones... it's alot of inactive members who are stickied but the new ones aren't... nobody ever sees mine... cause it stays at the bottom... and i think you should just revamp and kick all the inactive ones... cuz i swear i never... and i mean NEVER see a couple FVC members not vote...

o yea and i like Rules idea as well...


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