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Lizman 01-19-2012 09:32 PM

Deniro B Milk Breakdown
 
In His 64 Line Battle Versus Rule
Now I Dont Know Who He Is And (In The Smallest Minority) Don't Care
He's Verse Was Quite Creative (Prolly Wouldn't Have Been If I Watched Some More Verses Against Rule) And Well Written
However I Want Point Out A Number Of Crucial (Wordplay) Flaws In His Verse That If I Would Have Typed Them Out Every Faggotry Voter (I'm Looking At FVC You Faggits) Would Have Mentioned, Inflated And Put In Front Of The Actual Verse To Give Me A Low Vote

Now...

"Some penis/Subpeonas" Doesn't Sound The Same
[Some Peeniss] Doesn't Sound Like [Supeanah]

jewelry/jury" Doesn't Completely Sound The Same

"man delay babes/mandalay bay" Doesn't Sound The Same

You Know What.... EVERY SINGLE WORDPLAY Except "ROULETTE/RULE LET" Doesn't Work/Go Together



While I'm At It
Why Not A Couple From Rule Too

"Conquer/Concur" Doesn't Sound The Same [[KongKahr] == Up Down Speech Effect] While [[cuncoer] == Down Up Speech Effect]

"Decant/ De Cant" Don't Sound The Same; NO MATTER If Its The Modified De Cant Or The Rightful "De Chant Pour Blood" As The 'De' In Front Of It Sounds Different In The Two Languages

"M Be Seal/Imbecile" Don't Sound The Same; Again No Matter The Different Pronunciations Used As The First Cons Is Different 'M/Im'

"Ero Dead/Eroded" Don't Sound The Same; Same Issue As Above

sWORDz 01-19-2012 09:35 PM

I don't think your in the position to be critisizing anothers wordplay. :o

Lizman 01-19-2012 09:37 PM

Yes I Am
I Am Able To Break Down Anybodys Verse
No Matter If I Might Be Worse Than Either In That Battle

Óðinn 01-19-2012 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Lizman_ (Post 742153)
In His 64 Line Battle Versus Rule
Now I Dont Know Who He Is And (In The Smallest Minority) Don't Care
He's Verse Was Quite Creative (Prolly Wouldn't Have Been If I Watched Some More Verses Against Rule) And Well Written
However I Want Point Out A Number Of Crucial (Wordplay) Flaws In His Verse That If I Would Have Typed Them Out Every Faggotry Voter (I'm Looking At FVC You Faggits) Would Have Mentioned, Inflated And Put In Front Of The Actual Verse To Give Me A Low Vote

Now...

"Some penis/Subpeonas" Doesn't Sound The Same
[Some Peeniss] Doesn't Sound Like [Supeanah]

jewelry/jury" Doesn't Completely Sound The Same

"man delay babes/mandalay bay" Doesn't Sound The Same

You Know What.... EVERY SINGLE WORDPLAY Except "ROULETTE/RULE LET" Doesn't Work/Go Together



While I'm At It
Why Not A Couple From Rule Too

"Conquer/Concur" Doesn't Sound The Same [[KongKahr] == Up Down Speech Effect] While [[cuncoer] == Down Up Speech Effect]

"Decant/ De Cant" Don't Sound The Same; NO MATTER If Its The Modified De Cant Or The Rightful "De Chant Pour Blood" As The 'De' In Front Of It Sounds Different In The Two Languages

"M Be Seal/Imbecile" Don't Sound The Same; Again No Matter The Different Pronunciations Used As The First Cons Is Different 'M/Im'

"Ero Dead/Eroded" Don't Sound The Same; Same Issue As Above

Ya know what lizzy, your right.... i actually agree with ya, your not one to talk at all with wordplay, but your right... noticed rule's wordplay dipped a bit recently, (he use to be bang on with it, think he tryin so much to get new wp that he forcing it lol) & DeNiro's ones you've quoted there dont work/go together.... there vey poor infact.... i've still to peep this battle, but liz in future if your gonna break someones bars down in the forums/slander them, at least have the respect to wait till the battles over....

EJT 01-20-2012 01:34 AM

co-sign
the lizard himself

Streetz De Hood 01-20-2012 04:24 AM

yeah for some reason when it comes to these big name vets a lot of people kinda purposely overlook the things they would normally use as their reason for not voting for someone...idk if its outta fear or what but it happens

Lizman 01-20-2012 08:29 AM

Thats What We Call Appropriate Swaying.... Anybody?
And I Can Do Proper Wordplay Most Of The Time; I Just Don't Bother

IV 01-20-2012 08:48 AM

concur and conquer sound identical

IV 01-20-2012 08:50 AM

But saying that, i do agree with streetz... some people dont point out faults in vets verses (although RULE is FAR from a vet) in fear most probably. I overlook wordplay most the time anyway and don't use it myself

Óðinn 01-20-2012 10:27 AM

im still in shock that i actually agree with you lizman haha... this is the first time i've agreed with you on something in regards to Text Battling... lol haha

Streetz De Hood 01-20-2012 10:30 AM

@Verity I'm not really a fan of wordplay either...to me sitting in front of a screen thinking about what two words or phrases sound the same is kinda corny but i have seen some pretty dope punches come from them but the majority aren't...im not knocking anybody that does it bc everybody has their own style..

n bout the vet thing...yeah there's definitely fear on LB n plus most of these ppl built up such a strong rep that sometimes we naturally think their verse is better than it really is...but then when u look back at it u see alot of excessive self boasting, n no-punch-at-the-end rambling...but still they pack enough dope punches in there towards the end to get the job done lol

Óðinn 01-20-2012 10:51 AM

^I've to disagree, i think wordplay when done correctly of course, makes for a bigger, stronger punch in the Text arena. As the text box has to have a lot of creative, strong factors every where in it, were as in Audio a nice crisp flow see you the win with a few punches that if they were in text would get the meh vibe from every text cat....

Wordplay also shows that creative side, but a lot a LOT of ppl really dont know what wordplay is, they think they do, but they dont... just cos you put two words together (exp) 'Bearin'/Bear-in' together doesn't make it wordplay, its the connection between either side of the / in the line that makes it wordplay (exp) "Holding a Teddy" only time you Bearin'/Bear-in Arms... the most problem with wordplay is ppl are using it wrong and others think what they are seeing/reading is correct wordplay/dope wordplay when in fact its wack & forced to fuck.....

Think a Battle Writing thread should be made up, might do it later this evening, touch on all area's of battling.... as a lot of ppl are trying but still cant seem to get to grips with some parts...

Mikey DeNiro 01-20-2012 10:59 AM

first thing i agreed on from lizman, and this is one of the reasons i didn't vote.

RhetoriK 01-20-2012 11:12 AM

Def. a co-sign here. i think it's dated acceptability in my opinion. Since wordplay is so heavy on the site now as opposed to DeNiro's prime I think that he did what always worked for him. The standards for wordplay to the voters is now more stringent than it was then. Had this battle taken place back then, it might have been different. Yeah, a LOT of people suck at wordplay but the fundamental understanding of how it works is more common knowledge now than it was back then. In fact, it was more impressive back then to have even partially relevant wordplay because it was a more edgy concept to readers back then. I think a lotta these "vets" that get dug back up would run into the same damn problem. Except possibly Mahv or Chizzy who had spot on wordplay back then, and have even seen and inquired about new wordplays now(NawkOut).

REALLY interesting.

Revan 01-20-2012 03:03 PM

My wordplay is usually much hotter i admit, but after reading Bobbys verse i noticed that altho his wordplay was a bit iffy the swag was fuckin insane so i dropped some myself.

but for real Lizman you got absoloutely NO right to comment on anyones wordplay for reeeeal.

& yeah people only vote for RULE cuz of the name, thats why Wargrave & SToBBaRT lost all the time. No, wait a minute...

Just C 01-20-2012 03:31 PM

I actually thought most of the wp liz quoted worked. some of it didnt tho.

AkRid_ArTz 01-20-2012 03:42 PM

cosign^ some was off but and more was on point.

But lizman, did you see collectively 128 lines with no explanations????

They're not needed straight forward and hard hitting.

Ohs 01-20-2012 03:44 PM

lizman who r u to say shit dont make sense

Lizman 01-20-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 742360)
My wordplay is usually much hotter i admit, but after reading Bobbys verse i noticed that altho his wordplay was a bit iffy the swag was fuckin insane so i dropped some myself.

but for real Lizman you got absoloutely NO right to comment on anyones wordplay for reeeeal.

& yeah people only vote for RULE cuz of the name, thats why Wargrave & SToBBaRT lost all the time. No, wait a minute...

Shut Up With Your Inane Arguments
Just Because I Might Not Be As Good Doesn't Mean I Have No Right
And I Can Construct Proper Wordplay; Its As Easy As Doing Multies

Lizman 01-20-2012 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohs (Post 742393)
lizman who r u to say shit dont make sense

No Matter Who I Am
That "shit" Doesn't "make sense"

Lizman 01-20-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just C (Post 742383)
I actually thought most of the wp liz quoted worked. some of it didnt tho.


Quote:

Originally Posted by _aKriD_ (Post 742390)
cosign^ some was off but and more was on point.

But lizman, did you see collectively 128 lines with no explanations????

They're not needed straight forward and hard hitting.

Please Specify

AkRid_ArTz 01-20-2012 03:53 PM

Genius, figure it out!

Lizman 01-20-2012 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verity (Post 742253)
concur and conquer sound identical

No
They Dont

Revan 01-20-2012 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Lizman_ (Post 742401)
No
They Dont

identical.

we've heard your audios Liz, dont try to be an authority on how to pronouce words lmaoooo

AkRid_ArTz 01-20-2012 03:57 PM

accents, lizman....

Revan 01-20-2012 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Lizman_ (Post 742395)
I Can Construct Proper Wordplay; Its As Easy As Doing Multies

Thats the point tho, no you cant.

you used stop/shop wordplay.

be quiet kid.

Lizman 01-20-2012 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 742404)
Thats the point tho, no you cant.

you used stop/shop wordplay.

be quiet kid.

No I Didn't
Make Better Arguments Grandpa

Lizman 01-20-2012 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 742402)
identical.

we've heard your audios Liz, dont try to be an authority on how to pronouce words lmaoooo

I Am An Authority As What I Am Saying Is Relevant

Lizman 01-20-2012 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _aKriD_ (Post 742403)
accents, lizman....

Screenshot, Quoted And Archived For Later Use

FiNAL WoRD 01-20-2012 04:07 PM

RULE kinda sucks tbh.......js

AkRid_ArTz 01-20-2012 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Lizman_ (Post 742411)
Screenshot, Quoted And Archived For Later Use

Whatever Gets you off faggot.

Lizman 01-20-2012 04:10 PM

Okay Then

Revan 01-20-2012 04:28 PM

Quote:

for AFRO CHOPS/SHOPS
Quote:

I'm SAYING YOU'RE OVER/YOU'RE 'ROVER'
Pipe the fuck down boy.

Krhyme Killz 01-20-2012 05:15 PM

concur and conquor dont fit well to me..but if RULE said it i think they'd sound identical with the accent.

lol at RULE not being a vet....

Just C 01-20-2012 06:41 PM

concur and conqure or how ever the fuck u spel it diont sounf a like . 1 has a soft sounding r at the end while the other (concur) has a more drawn our r sound like "I concurrrr" Liz inm too drunk to go through all the wps u piocked out. sorry. but most did work. for me. but on the concur im with krhymr 100

IV 01-20-2012 06:48 PM

@Krhyme SAVES i simply said @RULE wasn't a vet because IMO he hasn't been here long enough or beaten enough HOFs yet

---------- Post added at 11:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:48 PM ----------

HOFs/Vets/Icons

Krhyme Killz 01-20-2012 09:26 PM

If you have to beat HOFers to be a vet.. Wouldnt you just be a HOFer yourself? Lol

RULE defines vet.

Lizman 01-20-2012 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 742425)
Pipe the fuck down boy.

Someone Needs A Tampon

Revan 01-21-2012 05:44 AM

Might wanna peep the W's list Verity lol.

Mayneak 01-21-2012 09:54 AM

I was robbed tbh :high:


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