Anti-Gunplay
 

Ok, so I've been back for around a month now, and I've read a heap of battles in that period, some really crack ones too, but something's been seriously bugging me: The reccurence of gunplay.

Now I'm not saying that nobody on the site is a 'real thug' or whatever the fuck you wanna call it, and I've been dumb enough to fall into the trap before too, but does gunplay dumb down text battling?

Every day, every battle; I see new guys spitting real flames and then - predictably and shamelessly - I see a "put teccs to..." or "raise arms like..." and actually feel physically embarrassed reading it. These lines are often coming from 16/17 year old kids and not just that, but from members who - without naming names and like myself - have never shot an enemy on the streets or held someone up for their cash in their entire lives.

To me, more importantly, I feel it really dumbs down the battles. I'm pretty sure I've seen every gunplay line there is to be written in 10+ different form, and it's taking away from the real wow factor. Creativity vanishes or is traded so people can claim to be 'thug' because it's how EVERY rapper has to be, especially in a battle..... NAT. If I wanted to hear every single punchline about guns ever written I'd go and watch a few videos of Conceited on YouTube.

Don't get me wrong, I use gunplay as a flip for people who claim to shoot but I'm 100% certain they don't. A little hypocritical yes, but I use it in a personal attack and don't claim to be something I'm not, as opposed to boasting about my 5's and 9's and shottys and bla bla bla.

What do you guys think? I for one would like to see a damn site less gunplay around here, I feel it'd really help people improve, stop people getting complacent and bring a lot fresher concepts.

:high:

I'm 15, I been around guns before.
Anyway, I think it's how you put it in there is where creativity shines.
EDIT: I definitely think it should be used a little bit less, personally I get carried away sometimes. lol

it can be fresh
ive seen new and fresh gunplay . & iont think it matters when textin

but when live battlin you shouldnt use it if you never been around it

i dont say bust shots all the time.. i say "Send lyrical shots" lol js

Scotland doesn't have guns yet

I'd put my life savings on you never having shot a man though, no offence. I just think it's overused.

Talk to OE, UA, Mayneak, Real Talk etc, they'll tell you: virtually any gunplay line being written now has been written before. It's time to move on and get creative, not just rehash overused thuggery.

Why's that different?

because live battling is real. face to face you can see ya opponenet and tell if they really bout wat they say or not for da most part and texting is over the internet . nobody should believe the shit u type anyway.

so your basically saying a author shouldn't be able to write a book unless they lived out every chapter??

imo it doesn't matter if someone uses gunplay or not, its all about how the actual concept is executed.. a fresh gunplay concept can be written as well as any other concept.. regardless to each his own, if you don't like using gunplay, then don't.. If someone else wants to use gunplay & it turns out shitty, then let them :high:

Not at all, what I'm saying is that there are a million and one other concepts out there, gunplay doesn't have to be rehashed at every oppertunity. I agree it can be executed well at times, but it's overused and - for me at least - it causes me to get a little bored.

It's just a little discussion reEFer, something to stimulate the mind etc. All I'm saying is try something new once in a while (not directed at you personally).

& I don't think it dumbs down anything personally, i just think theres good rappers & shitty rappers :high:

AfterThought you still play with pokemon cards and yo yo's :)

we got some nice points on both sides going on here lol.. continue..

gunplay is not a concept.

It's a collection of concepts involving guns. Perhaps not concept, maybe topic's a better word, or feature.

Who knows, you know what I mean though.

I agree with AT

Its not the gun you're using its the spin you put on the revolver ;)

yea topics a better word.

and a topic cant ever be played.

but i think you can make the freshest punches outta gun-play , if you talented. i'ont never get why people say its played.

I guess you didn't spot your mother in the background during the game.

^Well said.

My gunplay is lethal tbh...

Look he 'cant see through' my schemes hes BROKEN PEEPHOLES/PEOPLES..His 'record aint playin'/plain dope with BROKEN NEEDLES..This kid aint fly hes pail n can/pelican so if he thinks hes 'flippin birds' I'm ''''SMOKIN EAGLES''''!!! Gun play can be done just as creatively as any topic imo *PoP PoP

Gunplay will win you a battle 90% of the time ... Alot of people don't catch clever material :high:

Nope, I love me some one dimensional gun rhyme punchline festivals, you don't want to know all the ways I "raise arms."

Alot of agreeable shit in here. and same can be said for the other side..

Gunplay is like sayin Nigga.. Only blacks or Darkies Shud be sanctioned to say nigga.. Like only people who really do tha gun carryin should be sanctioned to speak on Gunplay.. But i guess thats taking it to LIVE battle'n cause I doubt lil After Thouht has even Shot a gun let alone Held one.. But It wont matter if he's in the box sayin 'My (Fill in the blank) is on my side blah blah blah'. Shit, Be true with your self and your lyrics will get ghutter for you. :guns:

But also you cant say ALL gunplay is played.. Because Im sure someone hasnt Compared Gettin shot to takin thier gramma to the nursing home.. And Im sure if some1 can dopen that concept up, Then it will be recognized as 'FRESH, NEW, AND CREATIVE'!!

Shut up mikey clit.

Yeah i did? She was supervising you :rolleyes:

V... Ur Siggy is prime example. :rolleyes:

Naw But real talk.. Most of these nigga talkin bout clappin is about as real as Robot Chicken Clipzz.

We ain't spose to be writing up autobiographies tho, this shit is entertainment. Nobody watches gangster flicks n get pissed off cuz they was actors. They wasn't really shooting mofuckas. It's just for entertainment. Shit, nobody knows who would really pop a motherfucker. And it's irrelevant because who cares? I understand that the gunplay is 'played'. But then again, what isn't, with 1 billion rappers in the world, and raps been around for motherfuckin ages now, it's all had to be done before. So all we can do, is put our creative twist on it, like Rhet said. Go Rhet! lol, but I know readin about how much smarter someone is isn't that entertaining all the time neither, I guess it's all in taste. Speakin of which, taste deez nuts, im out!

Battles are entertainment niggaz can say watever the fuck they want imo...Gunplay is no different from Horrorcore dats a bunch of shit niggaz wont do either....no different from saying you fucked their broad or wife when they dont even have one...its all in creativity....

like it or not it takes talent to come up wit fresh concepts of any kind

Damn dats scary how close Edgar post is to mine we posted at da same time btw

lol Real recognize real

I dont rap about stuff i dont do on the regular.... (as you see more of my battles beside just my open) i rarely mention guns or do gunplay... unless its for a metaphor. Since i rarely touch a gun.

Your rhymes should be a reflection of urself... if you wanna be protrayed as the average ignorant drug dealer than go ahead.. but if you wanna be something more show that. switch up the style. use different tactics. show different sides of ur personality.

Be unique. Rap has enough wack non-unique people. be you. I did a rap on Cell Theory once... lol i think i was the first to do that and it was dope and unique. Work on ur metaphors.

QUOTE ME BOY CUZ I DONE SAID SOME SHIT! lol

.....:guns:

Mani & Edgar are exaxtly right- BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAP

Yeah be me bitches!!!!

What are you talkin about? Rap is ENTERTAINMENT! You can rap about fuckin aliens, fuckin summer vacation, fuckin bitches, fuckin monsters, fuckin war, anything you want to. It's limitless, if everybody just rapped about their everyday lives, unless they are secret agents, shits gonna be boring imo. And if you rapped about Cell Theory, you must be dope as fuck if you made that entertaining. Also, it's called the entertainment business, not the rap about your apartment and what breakfast you made business. Yeah, be real, but not on everything you write about, I listen to music sometimes to escape from reality, so why would I wanna hear about Cell Theory? Also, I hate to hurt your feelings, you seem pretty cool, but this...

I’m ‘supreme’… u’re just BLATANT FORM OF WACKNESS And ‘ultimately’ based on BASIC FORMS OF INTERACTION ur rhymes have ‘no identity’ so now he think he ‘JASON BOURNE-born’ FOR CLASSICS- psh FREAKING TRAGIC/ Its funny how he ‘cheats’- yet he always got COMPLAINTS SWORN WITH TACTICS, ‘hot rhymes’ have him switchin FROM HATE TO DIRTY ACTIONS.. So if this ‘kid –beat me-’ and aint put in the ‘-heat seat-’ u can tell –letsbeef- COMPLACENT WITH ‘FORUM HACKIN!- im REEKING HAVOC!/ U think what u type ‘on screen’ is DYNAMIC AND FUNNY…psh! u’re ‘far from the best’ that’s PANORAMICS FOR DUMMIES- im SPEAKING GRAPHIC/

Sonnnn, that is a bore fest!!! And your 'supreme' in real life? I thought soooo. Im sorry if I'm coming off as a dick, but that explains what I'm talkin about I think.

These are battles, you wanna talk about your job stacking shelves you aint coppin too many W's son lol

Wiggz.. Down Boi... Dont run'em off sooooo quickly :high:

What he said^^^^

lol Im just tryna keep it 'real' for him.