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imo..... Nicholas is absolutely right. ^^
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This shit got outta hand quick lol, I was just tryna show y'all a video. C'mon! :wtf:
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Kat Williams is no philosopher or expert on anything. IMO he isn't even funny.
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It is perfectly sane and reasonable to doubt something when you have been presented no credible evidence of its existence. If you told me there's a million dollars worth of gold under your bed and you present me with no evidence, I, not having made any declarations but merely doubting due to your lack of proof am under no burden of proving anything. However, if I said "there ISN'T a million dollars worth of gold under your bed," that statement warrants proving. And for me to say there isn't a million dollars worth of gold solely because of your lack of proof to the contrary could be foolish. Unless I've went and searched underneath your bed myself or otherwise collected information that positively disproves the existence of the million dollars worth of gold, I am within my rights to doubt but I am not in a (tenable) position to say there absolutely isn't a million dollars in gold. Lastly, I agree with you about people acting like their religion is fact. Religion, especially without clear conclusive evidence, is belief, not fact. However, I feel the same way about certain forms of atheism. I see it as a belief that there is no god, which without any proof or evidence, isn't any more factual than the religions they speak against. |
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and religion is the biggest cop out. in fact, you could argue that it was spread as a mass cop out to ease the minds of those who've lost loved ones or were at death's door step. someone else said that it was the result of having bad shit happen to you that you dont believe in God...but in actuality, i've found most people who've had tragic shit happen...TURN to God to cope. Anyone who lost their religion due to a tragic event..never had faith to begin with... |
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So no, I cannot definitely 100% say there isn't a god, but I believe in a god as much as I believe in the Bogeyman, Fairies, Mermaids and Unicorns. I hope that irons it out. |
Lol...that's fair. In my experience, there are different kinds of atheists. It is only so-called "strong/positive atheists" that I sometimes have a problem with. I think of "atheist" as a somewhat relative term and that we are all atheistic towards someone's beliefs. If a Hindu has his own concept of god and disbelieves a Christian's concept of god, as far as that Christian is concerned, that Hindu might as well be atheist because his god (Jehovah) is the only true god, therefore, a belief in another god is really a lack of belief in God. Historically, the Greek term atheos (without gods) from which "atheist" is derived, was applied to not only true atheists but also people who did have belief in deities, just not the Greek ones.
I also think that "god" is an idea first and foremost, and there is no denying that the idea exists. With the multitudinous definitions of the term "god', the term "atheist" becomes even more ambiguous, especially when it pre-supposes that all uses and definitions of "god" fits into a certain criteria. If in my conceptualization of god, I concluded that god is water, would you deny that water exists? If not, then you wouldn't be atheistic towards my belief. If you argued that water exists but it isn't god, then you obviously have a belief that god (as an idea) exists as well. You'd have to have a clear concept of god to be able to say what god is or isn't or to even believe or disbelieve in god. WE ALL BELIEVE THAT GOD EXISTS. The only difference is what we believe god exists as. To some people, god exists as an actual physical omnipotent entity in the universe. To others, god exists as a fictional character, word in the dictionary, a figment of some people's imagination....still an existence. So admit it @Nicholas. You believe that god exists. You just just don't believe that he exists as nothing more than an idea. :D |
I still think it's absolutely hilarious that illuminate believers quote Kat Williams and Dave Chappelle. Yes, pothead comedians. THAT'S the people to believe.
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