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Originally Posted by King John (Post 569566)

Being able to make to make a hit is a pretty big sign of being versatile, that's why Scarface and Soulja Boy aren't on anybody's best ever list, because they can't be commercially successful and still put out lyrical shit. Same with Nas sure he can put out some bullshit "lyrical," track but he can't make a hit to save his life.

Thats bullshit.

NaS is obviously staying in his comfort zone. I think if he REALLY wanted to make a big hit, and become more successful than he already is, then he could.
But IMO, he doesn't lower himself to make music that has been diluted and tampered with. Nobody has freedom of speech anymore.

:high:

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Originally Posted by -SoupErb- (Post 569572)

Thats bullshit.

NaS is obviously staying in his comfort zone. I think if he REALLY wanted to make a big hit, and become more successful than he already is, then he could.
But IMO, he doesn't lower himself to make music that has been diluted and tampered with. Nobody has freedom of speech anymore.

:high:

The thing is he ALREADY tried to be a commercially successful rapper and put out radio hits, and he was nowhere near as successful as Jay Z was, every album between Illmatic and Stillmatic was him attempting to find radio success. And for all the talk about him being more lyrical than Jay Z, Jay Z has 3 classic albums(at a shit more near classic albums) Nas only has 1.

Scarface is on ALOT of people's best ever list...he's prolly in my top 15

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Originally Posted by Mickey Left (Post 569360)

Distant Relatives..... Best Album of 2010
Ether..... Best Diss Track Ever
A Fucking Amazing Ability To Flow And Tell Stories....
Need more reasons?

Ah Nah Gotta Disagree With That (Best Album And Best Disstrack)
I Mean I'm A Dedicated NaS Fan But I Didn't Really Feel DR At All

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Originally Posted by pULSe (Post 569368)

Is How I Got Over, the Roots shit? I thought it had a couple of good tracks.

Dear God, Right On, and that John Legend shit.

But, Black Thought isn't that lyrically gifted. Alot of the rhymes he has are shit i've been heard or are recycled.

edit; wait before you jump on me for saying he's not that lyrically gifted..I meant to say...AS OF LATE, his lyrics aren't up to par with what I expected. but he murdered Dear God 2.0

Wow Sheesh Shut Up
Not That Lyrically Gifted You Effin *Sees Edit* I See; But Everybody Recycles Their Shit And Nobody Keeps Their Steez After That Long A Time

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Originally Posted by DaLingo (Post 569383)

Have you seen a person that thinks they the shit but really are not?

Well that's the mainstream rappers of today.

Nas came out when music was real. He sees that hip hop is dead. Even nas himself is not as hot as he use to be.

Why is this? Cuz hip hop has lost it's soul and its hunger and it is up to the new generation to fix that. Those who are 20+ they have already lost it. Sorry to say but you will not be like what is about to happen in 2012. (I predicted a long time ago (6 years ago) that a new wave of real artist will come up out that slums on this earth. They will disguise themselves as kids but they are actually gods to this rap game. They will be around 15-19 years of age.)

Eh Uch Whatever
You Never Told Me What Your Old Account Was...?

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Originally Posted by Krhyme Killz (Post 569501)

It was Written > Illmatic

Stillmatic > It Was Written

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Originally Posted by King John (Post 569525)

Jay Z is what Nas wished he could be, there's a reason Jay Z is one of the most influential, recognizable, and respected rappers of all time, he's the most versatile rapper ever and his music actually sells.

Don't Agree With The First Part But The Second Seems To Be True

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Originally Posted by Krhyme Killz (Post 569532)

NaS is what Jay has ALWAYS wanted to be...he's a legit intellectual trapped in a commercial rapper's steez...he sold his soul on Vol 1. and never looked back until maybe American Gangsta which was really lyrically textured

"Don't Agree With The First Part But The Second Seems To Be True"
Weird How That Works Sometimes

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Originally Posted by King John (Post 569566)

Shut Up Mohn
You're Crossing The Line Between Partly Making Sense And Insanity
I Am Quite Sure That NaS Could Copy The Business Sense Of Jigga The Fallen Off Nigga To Make Boundless More Money But I Doubt He Would Want To Do That (In The Same Way Anyways)

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Originally Posted by King John (Post 569578)

Nas never tried to be a commercial success like that w/ radio hits. EVERY rapper has to put out a song to get them some sort of a buzz or attention. Maybe Nas did want the big bucks from Oochie Wally but the intent was to get him on TV/radio enough so that people could familiarize themselves with him.

How many times has he tried after that to be a commercial success? Think about it. He put a few songs like Oochie Wally and got his name out, One Mic was more of a real song than anything, & I remember that song being huge when the video came out. Nas Is Like music video was again, not an attempt at making a hit, it was just real rap with a real music video.

What's stopping Nas from hitting up Swizz Beats or Kanye for a catchy ass beat so he can make a hit? Certainly not the money, he has more than enough money to get w/e the fuck he wants from w/e producer, i'm sure.

It's his self respect and loyalty to his fan base to put out the shit HE WANTS and the shit his core fan base wants.

that nigga aint got too much money,

kelis do .

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Originally Posted by -ProNto- (Post 569612)

that nigga aint got too much money,

kelis do .

Whaddayou... Stupid?

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Originally Posted by Krhyme Killz (Post 569582)

Scarface is on ALOT of people's best ever list...he's prolly in my top 15

I was talking about THE best ever, nobody has Scarface #1.

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Originally Posted by pULSe (Post 569608)

Nas never tried to be a commercial success like that w/ radio hits. EVERY rapper has to put out a song to get them some sort of a buzz or attention. Maybe Nas did want the big bucks from Oochie Wally but the intent was to get him on TV/radio enough so that people could familiarize themselves with him.

How many times has he tried after that to be a commercial success? Think about it. He put a few songs like Oochie Wally and got his name out, One Mic was more of a real song than anything, & I remember that song being huge when the video came out. Nas Is Like music video was again, not an attempt at making a hit, it was just real rap with a real music video.

What's stopping Nas from hitting up Swizz Beats or Kanye for a catchy ass beat so he can make a hit? Certainly not the money, he has more than enough money to get w/e the fuck he wants from w/e producer, i'm sure.

It's his self respect and loyalty to his fan base to put out the shit HE WANTS and the shit his core fan base wants.

Talent, he could go get a catchy beat, but he doesn't have the skill to make a #1 hit like Hov does.

Hate me now is officially his biggest joint. Even with puff it wasn't commercial
Nas is the greatest alive, with hog somewhere nearby