Let me break this shit down with an analogy we can all understand because hip-hop/rap is what brings us all here, right?

If little Jimmy has rich parents that live in an affluent neighborhood, it's possible he could listen to all this molly/lean/drug rap and it has 0 effect on him because he doesn't relate to that world, so he has no need to act on the messages he hears in the music.

By that SAME token, it's completely possible Jimmy starts poppin molly, drinking lean, etc and it fucks him up.. The difference is he has a wealthy support system backing him, that can pay for the proper treatment, thus saving him from becoming a statistic.

If you're some kid growing up in the hood in ATL, listening to artists that came from your area, or from a similar upbringing talking about do X,Y,Z..that's relatable to your circumstances. Younger kids that don't have fully developed brains are more impressionable and more likely to emulate the shit they hear coming from someone they relate to.

Except this is lil Jamal in the hood who doesn't have affluent parents to fall back on for support. So he's more likely to become a statistic

By that same token, there's kids in the hood in ATL that are unaffected by the messages in music and they overcome incredible odds to become college graduates with good grades and all.


And it's a known fact rappers are told to promote certain shit in their music because that type of shit has been exposed several times by several artists in the industry.


Do you see how correlations work now? Just because the kid in ATL went and did molly, lean, etc doesn't imply CAUSATION because another kid in ATL overcame odds to graduate college. But there's still a correlation

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I highly doubt your community college statistics class had you spend hundreds of dollars on IBM SPSS software. There's levels to this shit. I'd probably show up to class high and half asleep and ace a Stats 1 class

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Actually I have a good analogy along the lines of the Asian shit Eth said..

You can prove there's correlations just by making graphs. It's just you guys are making horrible analogies with junk variables/junk data

If I wanted to prove African Americans are behind more violent crimes than any other group in Chicago, I'd run an analysis on African Americans, Hispanics, Caucasians, etc on the X axis

With the total number of crimes that occured in Chicago for the year of 2016 at the top of the Y axis with a good interval that'll reflect nicely on the graph. So if there were 1,000 crimes maybe intervals of 100 or 200 would nicely display which ethnicities were responsible for X amount of crimes.


With this data the graph would show you the correlation. If African Americans were responsible for 400 of those crimes, or 40%, with another ethnic group placing 2nd at 25%..

Does this imply causation? Does it imply African Americans are all violent savages? No. But it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt there's a correlation between African Americans and crime in Chicago.

The causation would require further analysis

"They blamed rap and metal" Good goy. Sound just like Emimem! "Where were the parents at"! Thought you were educated. Sound, music without words, can influence the mind. Lyrics aren't even needed. Though, repetition of lyrics can be very powerful. Especially, when accompanied by a beat. There's a reason why members of religions chant, say prayers and sing. There's also a reason why affirmations seem to work and are used by countless people and programs. You become what you do and you do what you think. No new age bullshit. Cuz there's also a reason corporations spend billions a year on psychologists and commercials. Plus Em gets paid to spit violence so of course he's not going to acknowledge the affect he's had on kids. He's a biased source, Stan.

"During the assault rifle ban"... What about back in the day when high-schools had shooting clubs and schools weren't getting shot up? Or when people weren't all on psych meds? You know, besides guns, a lot of these " mass shooters" had something else in common, psychotropic drugs. Want to ban them? Is it guns that need to be banned or something else? Or anything you deem unacceptable?

You won't even admit that pop culture can affect decision making yet you're intelligent enough to tell us if we should have guns or not? Yeah OK man. You sound like a Hillary Bot, Go Russia. Oh and cool 'correlation' you made between pop culture getting more violent over the past few decades and the rise of violence in our society as a whole. Good ish I might have missed that. Genius.

Sounds like you listen to too much rap but have affluent parents.

Remember that time Godbody was bragging about being a "nigga in Paris" and it turned out he was on holiday with his parents?

At least youre not talking about my dick today....youre just swinging from it.

When did I say anything about Eminem, wanting guns banned or mention a correlation between pop culture and violence? I'll wait....

You know what there is a correlation between though? Supporting Trump openly and getting overly sensitive when anyone mentions assault rifle availability contributing to an increase in mass shootings.

Do you ever get out of your feelings, or are you trapped there forever?

I don't remember saying anything about any of that. I was directly addressing this post from you and its incomplete logic. That's something with which you generally have a lot of trouble. Do you think you could take a brief moment away from your fantasy world to answer the question at the end of my last response? Please don't get angry. I never meant to hurt your feelings.

"When did I say anything about Em" you basically argued his point from 15 years ago dipshit.

"Wanting guns banned" you just sound like the average libtard with the same talking points honestly.

"Correlation" you're just too stupid to see what you said.

"Supporting Trump", OK tard... this has nothing to do with Trump. Stay on topic. Don't lose focus. The gun debate was around long before Trump. But way to deflect.

You are so full of shit. You resort to fallacies. The truth is, music does affect the mind. Especially, repetitive messages. And the reason we see an uptick in gun violence is because of the overall increase of violent behavior in society. So get out your feelings and acting all butthurt.

Ahh yes...tell me Im in my feelings after I asked if you were in yours...you sound frustrated.

Show me all that shit in what I said...please. You brought up Hillary before I brought up Trump..whatd my first post have to do with any politician? There were overblown media campaigns in the 80's/90's about the evils of music, the stats are right and yes, its a fact assault rifles are easy to get. Those are facts...none of that is opinion....so what the hell are you yammering about?

Just admit you're either A) Salty about our confrontation the other day, B) A hypersensitive conservative playing Capn Save A Ho anytime the words guns or Trump are said, C) A gigantic faggot, or D) All of the Above

I said you sounded like a libtard and Hillary Bot, meaning you just regurgitate what ever talking points you heard lately. No real thought. Just repeating the same bullshit. Which is 100% factual. You don't know shit about why we have guns. You're the sorry ass faggot that supports big government and taking away guns then in the next post bitch about government atrocities. Stfu already.

Guns should be easy to get you fuck tard. That's the point.

A) I don't even GAF about what ever stupid comment you made before. Go fuck yourself with a bayonet. Then ban it. B) Playing cap n save a ho? Yeah leave my guns alone you fuckin commie scum. Not my fault sorry ass fools in the hood shoot themselves and can't fight. Nor is it my fault if some weirdo on psych meds shoots up an event. C) You're the faggot, always talking about male on male love and if someone talks shit about u u make it about some gay fantasy you've got. Save it. Even your political views are flaming. You're one protest away from carrying a rainbow flag in a parade. D) Your initial comment was easily refuted. So you set up a false ultimatum. Just cuz I can call out your bullshit doesn't make me a conservative. Idgaf about conservatives. But sjw rap fags like you are a joke. If your gay ass got your way all we could rap about would be gay shit and homo thug tracks. Go burn a flag or something. Lmk when you want the debate you avoided.