so how is getting higher education in any way/shape/form a disadvantage?

it's not disadvantageous at all. You can keep doing live battles. Cuz we all know that's how you're gonna make it as a rapper. thats how Drake, Kanye, and J.Cole started right? GrindTime? & posting mixtapes on datpiff and music videos on LB? lmfao

no thanks. I'll take my chances with a higher education & having connects in the industry tyvm

& it's always gonna be someone's job to teach the next generation. maybe i could be learning from someone BETTER who could've been BIGGER than those big time producers but they decided to teach others their same talent

well that full sail music ad is everywhere on hella sites
i saw it i thought about goin there too
you aint gotta be ashamed nigga lmao

I'm not ashamed at all. I'm blessed to have this opportunity and a fully supportive group of family and friends

but apparently I should be ashamed of going to Full Sail...according to Huey

hmm. hard to believe. and lol @ your idea of my 'rap career'. you're talkin about shit i did a year ago... on to the next. im a pretty productive dude


yo lets make a bet. If my next project is more popular than your next project, you take a perma ban... or visa versa. watu say?

im not sayin be ashamed. never said that. all im saying is you don't need to pay money to have unsuccessful musicians tell you how to make music

just show some fucking initiative, get some production software and pick up the fuckin manuel
people are just lazy or don't have the time to do it. If you have the time to go to school then you have the time to teach yourself

my 2 cents

"Full Sail University is often called a “scam” by former students for a variety of reasons. Perhaps the largest reason is the high expense of receiving an education there. Tuition ranges from around $36,000 to around $75,000 for a full degree program. Students frequently complain of having paid such high tuition prices and yet still having extreme difficulty finding a job in their field."

yo im tellin you right now. pocket that 40-60k and get yourself musical equiptment.. don't even need that much tbh. you could even pay a producer to let you be a studio bitch for a week and show you the ropes. Save yourself the money dude. nowadays everything is at your fingertips

while that's true a degree or being able to call yourself a "professional" in something goes a long way too. You can make a career out of it and be one of the best at it

Or you can use what you learn and produce your own music and do your own studio work.. That's basically what I'm tryna do. if that fails then I find work in the field I got a degree in to get some steady income.

It's hit or miss to become that one dude that has a huge fanbase and can actually make money off rap. It really is..you gotta have that edge, the right focus, the right drive, the right mass appeal, timing...shits crazy

I been chillin for a minute only cuz I understand that everybody grows when they constantly practice at something. You gotta take time to develop a style to call your own, the topics you'll rap about, etc etc..

yo don't duck my perma ban bet....


what if you did this. what if you took that 40-60k, rented out a studio apartment, sound proofed the walk in closet, got some production software and a mic, hired local producers to help you set up the joint. Then hire those same producers to work for you and bring in local artists to record. You split the money with the producer for rented studio time money that you get and sit in on all the sessions then slowly learn the craft... then start doing it all on your own.

pffft the shit id do with that money. shit seems like a slap in my face to see you use it like that, actually

Financial aid don't buy studio equiptment....

financial aid also doesn't come outta the governments ass. its a loan... you'll be paying tat back

Yeah for sure... most of it you will... but I would assume if pULSe is trying to "make it" in a musical career he doesn't have the type of loot or his family doesn't have the type of loot to bankroll that whole 80k outta pocket.. all im sayin.

sure he does. pulse is just a teenager who wants to be popular

I don't mind pULSe .. From the little amount of interaction we have had he seems like a good kid... He comes off like he knows it all but if you understand thats how a lot of young men are then you kinda just put that aside... I hope you both make it... then I can say I chatted with some real rappers..

how pleasant of you

Haha how would you know my financial situation?..but anyway, yeah I don't act like a know it all. i try not to touch topics I know nothing about...but this is something my mind is set on. the Law of Attraction and Law of Manifestation at work. Ticket's always been good bread w/ me though, respect.

Because You Like To Trumpet It In Every Given Situation

you are so set on becoming a musician that you are going to throw gross sums of money at other people so they can teach you how to be one....


like all the greats

so if you had this opportunity you wouldn't take it? that's pretty stuck up & arrogant if you ask me.

yo... idunno if your desperate or stupid.


i told you what the fuck i would do. i would make boss ass moves with that fucking cash! jesus

1. rent a studio apartment
2. soundproof the walk in closet
3. get in contact with young local producers (so many people want jobs in the music business)
4. pay them by the hour to help you set up the studio
5. hire them to produce local artists in your studio and split the profit as you see fit
6. sit in on the sessions and learn some real deal shit
7. loose the excess weight
8. run a studio and make 100% profit


wachu know

I didnt realise it cost THAT much. Its different over here. infact I could enroll on a music course in college for absolutely nothing. I would have free studio time. a professional 1 at that. aoght id have to book the time but I could live with that for free lol. but not apending upwards of 80k for a course that seems like suicide to me. Hueys right Id spend the money getting me a legit set up for that kind of bread.

Spending *

1. rent a studio apartment Check
2. soundproof the walk in closet
3. get in contact with young local producers (so many people want jobs in the music business) Check
4. pay them by the hour to help you set up the studio
5. hire them to produce local artists in your studio and split the profit as you see fit Check
6. sit in on the sessions and learn some real deal shit
7. loose the excess weight
8. run a studio and make 100% profit Check

Yay

yo but don't worry pulse, by the time you get out of university and are finished paying off those loans you might be able to get a job working for me!

(unless your parents are loaded, which i have a feeling they are)

lizmans a boss

lol @ working for you. i'll reach out to you if you wanna work for me. and go ahead and invest 60k into equipment. alot of people have the motivation and when everything falls into place they give up or make it nowhere.

idk what you're plannin to do. it sounds like you wanna be the next Mac Miller or something. 6-7 figure income, rap albums, selling out and making bs music videos with absolutely no substance (which you're already on track to do)

but to me it's not about that...if I make an album and my songs affect 500 people, thats enough reason for me to keep going. idc about the fame, the millions of fans, etc etc.

If you're a TRUE musician and you're TRUE to what you do you wouldn't care either. I'm all about lyricism and droppin knowledge

not dropping 1/2 truths and makin people snap their fingers. if that's your lane, stick to it. it's not mine though. & I got other shit going for me besides music...which is where you failed.

because you obviously think this music shit will work for you...but the harsh reality is that it probably won't. & what are you gonna have to fall back on when your debut album flops? you gonna blame it on your equipment and drop another 40k on new equipment? LOL

how about you wisen up and get an education. you're being lazy.

if you were making as much moves as you say you are how are you even able to go back and forth w/ me on LB? & WHY are you going back and forth with me on LB?

obviously you're not doing as good as you project yourself to be doing

lol what are you talking about, your just spewing hate on a persona that you've created for me. i deleted that music video the day after it was posted... im getting a degree in English from the University of Toronto. And im a completely self taught producer and autonomous rap artist. i need no connections to do what i love.

you on the other hand are "keeping your options open" by sinking 70k into a dead end.

how are you not committing yourself to music? lol good luck getting any jobs with a fucking degree in electro acoustics or whatever your getting.

pULSe just admit the shit im saying is making sense, and its scaring you. honestly its better to admit that, cause if this doesnt make sense to you, you are admitting you're an idiot

what you say makes sense. but you speak to me as if you're some Guru of Music that's already made it and shit

fuck outta here with that, you haven't made it. How are you going to speak from experience that you don't even have?

That's like a baby teaching a grown man how to walk

& i'm keeping my options open by not being fully committed to Full Sail. smart enough to know music should be a hobby instead of a job.

& you sound really really bitter about not having any connections. that sucks for you, but I can't help that I have connections. try being social...you'll meet people.

imma make it before both'a yall wassup

well, i did work with a music management team in los angeles on trying to launch a so called music career for myself. One guy on the team had been the game for 15 years, released kool keith albums, rapped with deltron... seen it all. so i got to chop the shit with that dude quite a bit. i had a clothing sponsor, connections, free studio time, and a college tour on the way. in a month i hated it. i saw how fucking stupid all of it was, the majority of the people have no real talent, they just want to get loaded and talk about the future. So when these people wanted to tell other people what my music was about, i would flip out... tore me apart from the team and i told em all i wanted out. i have no connections because i don't want connections... since this has now become my hobby/art again not my ticket out of having to work hard. i have given myself full creative control.


i'm not trying to diss you i'm trying to let you know. you don't have to listen, but i wish someone was there to tell me this kinda shit before i made that move. but, you sound bull headed.. like me.. so you'll have to go and find out for yourself

nahh i understand what you're tryna say and I appreciate the words of wisdom..i just don't like how you're tellin me your way is the right/best way to do it and my way is a waste of money, etc etc...just because that didn't work for you, doesn't mean it won't work for the next guy. we're all different people. we all have different experiences

so lemme ask this. are you a producer? have you shown any interest in producing music? or just spittin bars? you don't needa go to school to spit bars man. and if you do go to school you'll get a job as a studio lacky most likely or working radio or some sort of sound editing job. thats a silent man's job

your plan just doesnt make any sense to me. and no, we took two different paths, i never went to school for music. even in my lapse of judgement i knew that music school was kinda a waste of time/money. trust dog i know kids in those schools and theyre not doin shit but spending money/paying off loans. To be honest, any type of education that is dope/easy is not worth your time. go do that kinda shit in your free time

still the ultimate irony is if i really wanted to shit on you i'd tell you it's a great idea

nahh. not even. Like I said, i'm not even committed to Full Sail. I'm really open to getting an education though, and I have relatives & friends tellin me it's a good school so I checked it out. I'm not one of those dudes that saw the ad and said "o wow its on the internet so it must b gud" ...lol.

But I know professions in the music field vary and alot of them are wack jobs or jobs that wouldn't earn you as much as....lets say...someone that went to college for 6 or 8 years and earns a steady six-figure income. that's more like where my mind is at right now. & rap'll be a hobby I'll pursue sometime in the future that I'll be able to fund myself once my money is right. But hey, if I happen to become a successful rapper before I finish college I think you know which career i'll be sticking with.

a successful rapper is probably something you agree with me on because you know its one of your biggest passions. being able to become a success and earn 7..or even 9-10 figures is a much bigger dream than the 6 figure maximum your field/profession pays you.

it would be retarded to go to the school when you can take the class online

obvioustly im trynna have guap comin outta my ass

all im saying is im gunna have it and you arent cause ur dumb and i know it

Hahahahhahah^

lol @ me being dumb. that's some funny shit. I turn everything I touch into gold

yo midas was dumb as fuck