Originally Posted by Krhyme Killz (Post 489821)

i feel you, fam...BUT lol...i never said to let the concept of a legend go...but let those specific cats go...i aint seen the nigga Illy on in FOREVER...and remarK is on this bitch everyday...but until Illy is let go...remarK can never fill them shoes..feel me?

Originally Posted by EßUPT (Post 489818)

i feel you on some of this, but lets be realistic, there arnt enuff dope cats to just say forget about the legends and say let them go, this is when the site go's down hill, you always want to keep the heart of things alive, because without a heart, then theres no beat for an emcee to ride too, not everyone on here is as talented as you and rule/ jason that can elevate at that rate, just the very presence of a legend posting in the threads or battling for that matter brings a sense of " damn, i wanta be just like jason, or for the rooks, damnn i wanta be just like rule" rule didnt become a grandchampion because of the help of mediocre cats, he became one due to the help from other vets and them taking him under his wing, which is why he elevated so fast.

so saying that vets/legends arnt need'd is rediculous, mainly because without them elevation is not expedited to its full potential. we need more vets to take more rooks that have potential under their wings, shit would move alot swifter.

Originally Posted by 2FUEL (Post 489823)

*Reading over the thread*

^^I agree with you and kryhme both...Tho i feel like LB isnt dying (so to speak) beacause X aint on, or this or that 'vet' or 'legend' either. Its all down to the same princple as every thing else. When we were new to LB it was new, fresh exciting....Why? Cos it was something new to us....Now its nothing new, i find my slef spending more time in the forums now than i do on the battle field (as so many other dudes)..Its like its kina beacame a social networking site in the way that not to many ppl battling as they use to, and are in the forums.

And becasue of this, ppl resort to trying to find what the "problem" is and start pointing fingers at the first thoguht that pops in there head... And start finding faults with the site, instead of realizing that its just not fresh any more. Not by its own fault no less, nor yours either, its just not as 'fresh' because Were so used to being here....

As for the commpetion levels?
To be honest theres a good level of competion with out the exclaimed 'vets' or 'legends' being on the site, we dont need them to be active for us to battle, or have good battles....The active ppl on the site now, wheather better or worse than you, will put up a good enough verse to make the battle exciting and entertaing enough...If any thing its just the lack of votes that makes a battle seem less exciting....

My 2 cents....

Peace

Originally Posted by Krhyme Killz (Post 489821)

i feel you, fam...BUT lol...i never said to let the concept of a legend go...but let those specific cats go...i aint seen the nigga Illy on in FOREVER...and remarK is on this bitch everyday...but until Illy is let go...remarK can never fill them shoes..feel me?

Originally Posted by EßUPT (Post 489807)

what we need to do is get other legends from other sites to come here, i know of alot, the only thing is most of us (yes i say us because im a legend) dont have the motivation to actually sit and think of a dope verse, then when you come to a new site with the legend swag you have w/ out knowing anyone plus the element of non-motivation and rustyness, peeps tend to hate on you, like "who the fuck does this guy think he is", im gonna talk to some dudes from goldmic and a few from six to see if they wanta come over, just embrace them and their attitudes/ ego's tho and not push them to being non-motivated, because truth of the matter is, everyone that has established themselves weath'r it be text or audio establishes some sort of ego, on another note we need to open up a legit rap school for all of the rooks that dont know the first thing to setting up a punch,

im gonna compile a list of msn's or what not, and gather a few vets that are actually concerned with elevation on the site, my old site died due to the lack of reinvention and skill level, just a bunch of vets that didnt need to accomplish anything else and just sat around making fun of the rookies ( im to blame for this aswell) , but im starting to get motivated again and the dopeness is sure to follow.

if theres anyone that consider's themselves knowledgable of how battling go's, doesnt have to be a quote on quote vet, get at me, because that's the main reason i'm here, to help kids improve, and not see this site die like all the rest..

if anyone wants to get down with this rap school/ msn thing let me know, ill be posting a thread later

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 489829)

I think too many people worry about records and dont elevate cuz they dont challenge the top dudes.

Because for real you never elevate more than taking a whuppin.

I got 4 really bad whuppins on here, and they helped me more than any other battles in the elevation of my skills.

And they happened to be against 4 of the alltime dopest imo. (DaDDiO, Real Talk, Huey J & remarK)

Yeah its a shame some of the older vets dont battle that often but tbh it seems like not many people ASK for a battle from them.

Like when i battled DaDDiO people was like "Wow how you get that to happen?"

Umm... i asked him for a battle? That was it!

And there are plenty of dope heads on the site now who i'd rate a bigger challenged than some of these "Old Vets"

Trust me i think i'd have a better chance beating Mahvy or Lefty than i would beating remarK or Jason.

Im not sure if im still on topic now... Hahahaha!!!

Theres plenty of heavyweights battling actively though.

I dont see many people, even older vets touchin Mark, Huey or Jason.

Originally Posted by EßUPT (Post 489831)

i agree 100 percent.


and ambitous...





i understand where youre comming from, but you have to understand that youre speaking from a rook/up and commers point of veiw. See you think that U.A and others dont want to help, and would rather set atop the rankings, when truth of the matter is, (comming from experience) that they would fuckin LOVEEE to have the competition level back to its origional level..when you have noone commin at your thrown, then you have no reason to try, they have nothing to prove, which takes the fun out of everything, and sure it doesnt take rocket science to fig it out..................... but............. if thats the case then why arnt there more dope heads on the site....... EXACTLY.. some of you dont need help, and like to think that you can do it on your own, and thats fine and dandy, but thats when your elevation is hinder'd... slike a student who's in class, and has a question but is too afraid to ask for help, then when its time to take the test, he misses the question that he didnt ask for help on.. on the other hand the student that is concerned enuff raises his hand and asks the TEACHER how to do a problem, there comes a point where you cant elevate anymore without the help of someone else, but thats what seperates vet status from legend status, i went through this stage aswell, there are certain exceptions but thats besides the

Originally Posted by UnEtHiCaL (Post 489871)

I agree and disagree with different things around this thread.

I agree with everything Erupt's saying, aside 'embracing the egos of other side vets'. Fuck them if they come over here acting like the man. You got to prove yourself here to get the respect of it. Goldmic is strikeforce, LB is UFC. Strikeforce guys have little credit in UFC, even though some could do really well in it. A strikeforce guy isnt going to be respected for his strikeforce attributes in UFC, he must again prove himself.