I didn't say anything about GTA having anything in their buildings, you've attatched this random thing to what I'm saying.

The fact is, Skyrim has no where near enough stuff to require loading screens. You say there is nothing in a GTA building, fair enough....but while you are inside the building every single thing outside of it is still happening. Car and pedestrian random spawns. Random sounds. Weather systems. Police' view etc. etc.

I was under the impression that Skyrim does way more loading than GTA does

the fact that you cant go into buildings in GTA only strengthens the point that its not THAT detailed. You can model cars after real brands/logos..you can increase the landscape by twice the size...but if everything is empty and just aesthetical what is there to load really

Skyrim is just a much bigger game with way more to do tbh

& I know GTA has a shitload of game modes and mini games..but you load one of em up and you've loaded them all up lol

If you're not modding Skyrim you have no clue what you're missing.

And subsequently are a console-fag.

I've played both, ain't no pontificating going on here.

I was going to say that Morrowind and Oblivion were heavily storyline based.

Skyrim allows you to craft a fuller character and has a broader spectrum of playing styles. Alchemy, for one. Most realistic range of herbs and ingredients with endless possibilities. I think maybe I'm enticed by the immense detail rather than the instant reward system you see in most games.

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THANK you.

And referring to @Dave's earlier point... PCs are superior to consoles by a country mile. Get a good, maybe even a decent graphics card, play something like Shogun II and tell me there that anything on a console beats the experience.

I'm definitely slightly Aspergic. I can't quite stop delving into the little subsystems of Skyrim. I'll harvest the shit out of a mountain flower, mix that with some fucking gorgeous Tundra cotton and poison a fucking cunt with a fucking Orcish arrow through the skull.

I'd still say that 99% of people that say Skyrim is overrated doesn't even touch half of the game: Plays the story, two-handed/one-handed, heavy armour then acts like there's nothing to it.

there is honestly no question as to which is superior, it's like combating a game boy advanced with an Xbox one. The only thing that justifies the playing of an xbox/playstation is your preference towards them, everyone has their opinions, simply liking one more is totally fine, but to state that a playstation or xbox is better than a PC (even bought with the same amount of money as the consoles) is factually wrong. I'm waiting for someone to challenge this point, too, so I can prove them wrong.

Skyrim is definitely a master-piece. I played it for hours on end until I could say in confidence that I had done almost everything there was to do, then, when I was exposed to the wonderful & mystifying world of modding, I did that same process over again about 5 more times.

You can mod for consoles. And modding shouldn't come into whether a game is good or not. That isn't even Bethesdas work that's the communitys like Nexus ect.

You can mod consoles to a certain extent with either iso discs or USB modding, but it is completely impossible to input mods that add all new content/textures to a console because their platform doesn't support any new meshes/textures/content that exceed the limits of the original game. That, and modding a game for the xbox breaks it's service rights code, and breaches rules under piracy (Which is complete bullshit.) and if you are caught doing so you will be banned. It's bullshit, and only attests to how terrible the service is.

The fact that the modding community for skyrim is so extensive definitely makes the game better. It's literally like getting an unlimited supply of DLC for free at any time, and even being able to create personalized DLC for yourself/friends with an easy to use creation kit. I mean, there were mods for Skyrim DLC that did the exact same things the DLC did (I'm talking about hearthfire, that made you have the ability to make a home.) months before it came out, and those mods were even free & didn't have the same bullshit limits..

Modding plays a definite role on bettering a game. Which would you rather play?

A game where new and fresh content is defined by overpriced DLC that the developers come out with maybe twice a year?

Or a game where new and fresh content is defined by thousands of people in the community constantly pumping out ever evolving content that you can get completely for free with the click of a button, that come out literally hundreds of times a week?

I'll let you choose.

PC gaming is like 1000 bucks for a console. No thanks.

Also it's sooo much more boring and alone. I don't even really enjoy playing most games 1 player.

That is completely false.
The budget for an xbox one:
Console: $500
Lets say you want ONLY two games to play too, also, for the sake of argument let's say these are new games. That's roughly $60.00 a piece, so add $120 to the table.

That's $620 dollars, but fuck it, let's subtract that down to $600.
JUST with this budget you can get a gaming pc that can surpass the bullshit processor/graphics that an xbox one can give. Don't believe me? Here's the PC's components:
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3iZxQ

Now if you guys know random useless information about computers like I do you'd know that the MSI Radeon r9 270X graphics card averages at 84 FPS. The xbox one averages at 40-60 FPS.

Also, just yesterday Steam had 6 million gamers online. That's hardly alone by anyone's standards.

I never got what ANY of the extra stuff like graphics card info is important. It's better? Cool....how though?

I've played Metal Gear Solid on a HD wide screen on my PS3. Not freezing, no nothing. In which way are PC gamers improving on this?

PC gaming is cool if you're a MMO kind of guy. But all that fantasy Runescape WOW whatever stuff isn't really for me. My computer doesnt freeze and gives me what seem to be crystal clear graphics of an incredible level (depending on the game). Why do I need anything else?