Since 2 Pac was added into it, I'll give some cats between the 3.

Lyricism
Eminem
NaS
2 Pac

Originality
NaS
2 Pac
Eminem

Topic
NaS
2 Pac
Eminem

Emotion
2 Pac
Eminem
NaS

Music
2 Pac
NaS
Eminem

ok bruh i respect your opinion but i would like to understand how you feel Em is stronger lyrically can you look at the 2 verses i posted and explain how Em was stronger with lyrics by my observation he is really overrated dude is not as good as Nas and Canibus, so listen to those 2 verses and explain it to me like I'm a 5 year old why Em is better with lyrics, and after you explain your opinion i will accept that i feel every one has their own mind and opinion but i would just like to know how people form certain opinions and what they are based on,

Whoa you saying you don't want opinions yet your whole argument about comparing verses was opinion based. I'm a fan of both Nas and Em and I'd say it comes down which aspect you compare. They have too different of styles to compare all around. As for the argument I saw, Lose Yourself's my favorite song by Em but in no way shape or form is it his best. Infinite was where he displayed how genius he can be.


Cause all I do is yearn a life without a concern
And dream of having a turn to earn money to burn
Mapping out my strategies to get rich huh
My desire is like a scratch that needs to get itched huh
Cause man I live in the D, this shit ain't given for free
Nothing's different to me, so what, it's easy to see
I'll be the prisoner to flee, all of this misery
I'm not wishing to be another fish in the sea
But just an MC, so listen to me, but if you disagree
You missing the key, you ain't even in the brisk of the tea
Unconditionally my aspects to cash checks
My objects were never to swab decks
It's up to you the decision is yours
If what you vision is tours, or a mission less course
When shit is in the stores, cause you can be a star

Yo I'm not about to chance it and dismiss handling business
I'm canceling Christmas to gamble and risk this
Financial interest is the matter at hand
I got an adequate plan for stab at a grand
I grab what I can and do what I must
Pursue what I lust, it's true that I just choose
The few that I trust, thems the people that I still got
Fuck with gangsta fill pot, get your grill shot
The 5 Elemantz for life my man Thyme
Proof, Kyu and Denaun, we move through into time
My crews true and divine, we never fronted
We just wanted to be funded, and live to be a hundred
Instead of hunted or being wanted as fugitives
It's all about a man planning what his future is
What he can do for his to be a star

You may have a grudge against him, but to say that he has not earned his reputation over a few of his mainstream songs is crazy though. Not hating just trying to defend Em. I'll bump both him and Nas. Personally I feel that Em's weaknesses are Nas's strengths and vice versa.

ok bruh you say my comparing verses was more of an opinion if i have a rapper with rhymes/words like " money/honey, guns/sun kill/deal vs acrobatic/gymnastic conversation/globalization anthropologist/biologist" there is no dispute, verse two is clearly more complex than verse one that is a fact bases on vocabulary usage, creativity of metaphors, basically thinking outside the box.

and its crazy that you say loose yourself is one of his weaker songs but most die hard em fans claim its so lyrical my thing is when i post a nas or canibus song i don't have to listen or think about it there is no debate weather it was sick or not,

its just a a college professor grading papers written by the students in his English class, vocabulary, creativity and delivery weights heavy, you can't write like a 8th grader and expect to pass college English

i don't have anything against em, i feel he is very overrated but i will never say he's whack i just don't understand whats the big deal with him, the verse you posted was nice but far from amazing, i'm sorry i just don't see/hear what you see/hear

make no mistake i respect Em he is not whack he is far from whack but people putting him over rappers like Canibus nas biggie is a little too much for me i don't see the complexity or creativity that would makes him the best that ever done it


this is a sick freestyle this is what complex sound like

I love both artists. Eminem is obviously the better battle rapper. His punches are made for battle raps. Nas is a poet. He speaks about deeper shit then em. They are both different types of rappers. Its like apple an oranges.

I think they are both lyrical masters in there own way. and who you think is better is just a personal choice but they have both definitely mastered the art of hiphop and went beyond it.

Too say Em isn't complex lyricly is retarded. compairing nas and em is like compairing Big and Nas

2 completely different styles

I also noticed you have canibus in ya sig and also posted his tracks. baring no relivance to nas and em debate

you're a Can fan boy. I'm sure everyone else can see where I'm going here.

yes canibus is my favorite rapper but that doesn't mean thats the only rapper i have ever heard of lol, and it has nothing to do with the beef with between em and biss,jay-z was my favorite rapper at one point but i always believed nas won that battle even before becoming a nas fan, i'm not driven by emotions or personal preference i let the lyrics speak for themselves and maybe you were not able to see the purpose of me posting canibus track( even though some em fan brought up 2pac) well, I'll explain Nas and biss are my 2 favorite rapper when people start talking complex they are the epitome of complex, for some reason there not much material on youtube about nas crazy because canibus is the biggest flop ever and 90% of his stuff is on youtube, but i wanted people to hear complexity , in my opinion em is above basic, but not necessarily complex, if an artist has 1000 songs and freestyles and only about 15 are above average/complex then that rapper in a average rapper sorry i don't hear anything special about em he had some nice line but you have do dig and search for them because they are not on his albums, i could pull up a nas or canibus song on youtube, not even listen to it and post it on this forum because i know anything that come out of their mouth is sick, em is vaguer, disrespectful and he sounds like he hate the world and everything in it but that don't make you lyrically inclined sounding like the big bad wolf that doesn't make you a good battle rapper or a better rapper just a weird person, no disrespect intended but you gotta admit dude says weird stuff, taking about killing babies and rapping women,

now i must say this i'm not saying he's horrible soulja boy and lil b are horrible, Em is a good rapper but not amazing nor complex, just deranged but sounding like a psycho doesn't automatically make you better, i have nothing against em as i stated before he has earned his place in history he is a good rapper but better than Nas,? a true hip hop fan that understand lyricism would never make such a statement, this is not about record sells its about rap line

P.s you don't have to have the same style to be able to compare lyrical ability Busta Rhymes and Jay-z have 2 totally different style but they are still 2 rapper speaking the English language it doesn't take a rocket scientist to judge who's the best lyrically. again we are talking about lyrical ability

dude a rapper is a rapper, i'm not a battle rapper i'm conscious rapper but on letsbeef i switch my style to conform to the standards, just because nas is a conscious rapper with meaningful subject matter doesn't make him weak, he has battled in the past and is respected for his ability to embarrass other rapper lyrically so, i don't understand why you feel a rapper should be put in a box, a good rapper can perform well in any situation, and nas a proven himself to be a great battle rapper no disrespect but it doesn't sound lie you guys took the time out to research nas before you made your choice i mean anybody who is a fan of hip hop knows nas can battle, this is why i wonder how much you guys actually know about hip hop, again no disrespect but come on

Johnny five, most canibus fans appreciate his use of intelligent lyrics. Go turn on a Rick Ross song and you'll understand immediately.

Chances are I been listening to Canibus since way before you guys and I'm not just saying that

I just don't go around quoting his lyrics in Sigs and saying stupid shit like Eminem isn't complex or blindly saying Can is better that 99% of the rappers out there. when the fact is. it's all about prefrence and it always will be. Same goes with Nas I probably listend to more Nas tracks than you Yellow Boy. But at the end of the day. it doesn't matter. Just listen to who you like and stop writing million word paragraphs debating the intricacy's of each MC's style like some nerds. Thats not what it's about.

For the record, the rapper comparison board is about comparing rappers, Just. Whether you think they deserve to be compared or not.

No way?, you're shitting me? Really?

ok i got you bruh i understand

[QUOTE=IM_ARES;659082]For the record, the rapper comparison board is about comparing rappers, Just. Whether you think they deserve to be compared or no

i didn't know that, the comments never reflecte that, i though you were suppose to say who you felt was better, now i see what just-c was talking about

Loc up? Ems a Sellout? Hes Tryna Be What People Want Him TO be? You Know How Many People Criticize Him Bout What He Raps About Now. and If you Havent Heard Bad Meets Evil:Hell The Sequel. Than You Should Know that From Recovery to That He Has Upped His Skill And Creativity. Like Come On Now. Lighters, Iknow Its a As you Say 'R&b' Song. But If You Listen to it lyrically its still the same jus a different flow and a deeper meaning. Ex.: Who These Dicks Tryna Kcid, Flip Dick You The Oppisite, They Stay The Same Cuz Cock Backwards Is Stil Kcoc you Prick! Now Tell Me That That Line Wasnt Lyrically Crazy. and it Was On Lighters. but If It Was On the Fuckin Slim Shady Lp. Im Sure You'd Be Jerkin YOur Fuckin Cock Off to That shitt Now wouldnt You... -___- #Know BOut Rap # REALTALK!

eminem
has a better rhyme scheme then
nas that consist of slant rhymes
metaphors wordplay etc.


Mic check one two.. we recordin?
I'm cancerous, so when I diss you wouldn't wanna answer this
If you responded back with a battle rap you wrote for Canibus
I strangled you to death then I choked you again
Then break your fuckin legs till your bones poke through your skin
You beef wit me, I'ma even the score equally
Take you on Jerry Springer, and beat you're ass legally
I get you blunted off of funny home grown
Cause when I smoke out I hit the trees harder than Sonny Bono
(Ohh no!!) So if I said I never did drugs
That would mean I lie AND get fucked more than the President does
Hillary Clinton tried to slap me and call me a pervert
I ripped her fuckin tonsils out and fed her sherbet (Bitch!)
My nerves hurt, and lately I'm on edge
Grabbed Vanilla Ice and ripped out his blonde dreads (Fuck you!)
Every girl I ever went out wit is goin lez
Follow me and do exactly what the song says:
smoke weed, take pills, drop outta school, kill people and drink
And jump behind the wheel like it was still legal
I'm dumb enough to walk in a store and steal
So I'm dumb enough to ask for a date with lauryn hill
Some people only see that I'm white, ignorin skill
Cause I stand out like a green hat with a orange bill
But I don't get pissed, y'all don't even see through the mist
How the fuck can I be white, I don't even exist
I get a clean shave, bathe, go to arave
Die from an overdose and dig myself up out of my grave
My middle finger won't go down, how do I wave?
And this is how I'm supposed to teach kids how to behave

WTF IS THIS LOL EMINEM VS NAS??? your comparing zeus to hercules
Nas is a rap GOD
Eminem is pretty tight but i mean pepl like biggie and nas inspired him and he isnt and never will be close enought to battle nas
unless of course a freestyle battle

this is pretty close
i dunno what would of happened in a freestyle battle cause eminem could flip lines like you never would of imagine it.
nas is awesome too but it comes down to preference,i am used to eminem songs and i would listen to eminem but with a second place being nas.
i like them both to be honest but i like eminem a little bit more.
either way both lyrical geniuses.

This one is pretty much even.

lol clearly he's being dramatic saying he would run, but see thats the type of guy game is, he respect and pay's homage to rappers that came before him if you have any of his albums you will notice that he always pays respect to rappers like jay-z, biggie, nas, 2pac and many more, if he was asked about nas i'm sure he would have said the same thing, not saying em isn't good but game is the same rapper that said nicki minaj was dope lyrically, lol game is just a cool cat

Maybe he started off paying respect to these artists. But then he just started dick riding to get air time and attention

Game has to be the biggest attention seeking diva in rap tbh

Recovery was not a Rap Classic....it was a Good Pop Album

no thats the divas em and 50cent always throwing shots at somebody even dissing females who does that its always drama with those 2

yea i feel you on that it did have more of a pop feel not saying there's anything wrong with that but def not a classic hip hop/rap album

What are you talking about?

Game always dropping some shit on the same people he sucks up to in his songs right before his next LP drop. He JUST did it to Jay z. Then he names his LP the Red Album and sucks up to him once his diss has got him some buzz

Atleast when 50 n em do it they aint sucking up to the same people the next minute. Game is 2 faced about it.

I actually like Game but he is def Bi Polar as a MF

the only person i know of him giving props to and beefing with is jay-z and thats not new they have been beefing for years now, the had conflitcs even going back to his second album and we don't know what happens to start the beef, nomaly game only beef if he's provoked and i still repsect him because even during a beef he is still grown enough to realize the person he is beefing with opened the door for him, unlike 50 who hates on everybody who's getting more shine than him and em who goes after female straight coward

its really not that hard to understand, canibus, jayz and nas are my favorite rappers and even though i have no interest of being a recording artist, lets just say i made it into the industry, of course i am going to pay homage to them but if jay or nas was to come at me i have to retaliate, this is hip hop, you must protect you name, its doesn't mean i don't like or respect jay/nas but the fact is we are competition and i must solidify my spot in the game period

to answer the topic i like both Nas and em....but ive listened to way more Nas than Em they both are dope lyrically tho i liked earlier eminem the new drug free em im not feeling I like Nas more tho

i cosign, although em never impressed me lyrically, i will still give him props he is a good emcee but i have to Say nas is in a class all by himself but ultimately i respect them both but nas is my pick

Eminem i guess

Eminem is the only rapper that would equal your beef or destroy you in a battle or in a diss.

lol but dat dnt count for nas

thats false hes not the only one, i think not bruh there are rappers that have ended careers

Obviously Nas is better in every aspect.