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UnEtHıCaL 04-06-2011 06:46 PM

I relax more than I get stressed. I find it obviously a better thing to do. Therefore when I do get stressed, I listen to relaxing music to relax me. If I am already relaxing, I'll play something that compliments the mood. I really don't see where I could fit in a time to play Eminem. Plus, in any of the situations I have better suited artists.

Wanting something to relate to:- Linkin Park, Kanye West, 2Pac
Angry and hyped:- AOTP, NaS, 2Pac
Party:- Biggie, 90s Techno

To me there is no time to play Eminem. He is generally rapping about stuff thats sad and makes you feel sad.

Vandahl 04-06-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by EtH (Post 609246)
I relax more than I get stressed. I find it obviously a better thing to do. Therefore when I do get stressed, I listen to relaxing music to relax me. If I am already relaxing, I'll play something that compliments the mood. I really don't see where I could fit in a time to play Eminem. Plus, in any of the situations I have better suited artists.

Wanting something to relate to:- Linkin Park, Kanye West, 2Pac
Angry and hyped:- AOTP, NaS, 2Pac
Party:- Biggie, 90s Techno

To me there is no time to play Eminem. He is generally rapping about stuff thats sad and makes you feel sad.

A lot of it is about being sad, but he has a lot of shit..seems you probably haven't even heard..I can already tell by you saying it's all sad..and he's demolished everyone who tried to call him out or have beef with him..haha..I listen to music..when I relax, when I smoke, when I play video games, when I'm chillin...I mean you get the picture, but I also listen to music to enjoy the creative aspect of things as well..lyricism..being able to listen to something and have it maybe open my eyes to something knew..or work to succeed in something..listen to/for wordplay, good storytelling..My point was not to say that you should listen to eminem over tupac, or that you should tell me who's better and why they're better to listen to..lol. Shut up. All I said was that I liked Eminem and prefer Eminem over Tupac.

Vandahl 04-06-2011 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EtH (Post 609238)
Pac featured on Outlawz' Still I Rise on maybe every song. Each verse pretty much a throwaway. I think that album is better than any from Wu, D-12, Onyx, Dipset or any other rap group.

There are many groups with 3+ albums better than that album. Don't be stupid Eth...smh.

UnEtHıCaL 04-06-2011 07:01 PM

You said Eminem > 2Pac, so I wanted to tell you why he was not. :D.

I don't see the point of listening to something for the creative aspect. I would want it to be something I enjoyed listening to, even as background music, before just listening to it for the creative purposes. Beethoven > Eminem, but I bet you don't listen to him.

To me, 2Pac had more of the aspects I like in the creative side too. Eminem is oviously much better lyrically, but I've said a million times, I can write as good as Eminem. It may take me maybe a year to work on getting flow together, but I feel any decent to great battler on the site can write as good as Eminem. You with your topical experience are probably far better at Em at story telling as am I, we are all better at the multies, and his metaphores would be recieved awfully here. Lyricism doesent impress me when I believe I can do better.

2Pac impressed me because he added a new and still untouched level of emotion to his work wether he did or didnt mean it.

Vandahl 04-06-2011 07:02 PM

Yeah, and I said I phrased what I said incorrectly..and went more into detail about liking both of their music. I agree with you to an extent, especially the emotion part.. haha.

UnEtHıCaL 04-06-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Efficient (Post 609254)
There are many groups with 3+ albums better than that album. Don't be stupid Eth...smh.

Lyrically? Yes, but I dont believe any rap group has as good music, as good chemestry and probably not many have the topics to beat it.

BUT, I named specifics. AOTP, ATCQ, JMT, Souls of Mischef, Hierogliphics and more are better as they have even better music, in terms of creativity and sound, better chemestry (specifically ATCQ and Souls) and more topics.

UnEtHıCaL 04-06-2011 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Efficient (Post 609257)
Yeah, and I said I phrased what I said incorrectly..and went more into detail about liking both of their music. I agree with you to an extent, especially the emotion part.. haha.


Yeah like I always come across as someone just hated on Em for absolutley no reason.I do notice that in mainstream and perhaps underground, there has never been a better lyricist. His storytelling, flow and rhyming are definently the best every to hit rap music. I just dont like his music, what it stands for and what it is about.

Vandahl 04-06-2011 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EtH (Post 609261)
Yeah like I always come across as someone just hated on Em for absolutley no reason.I do notice that in mainstream and perhaps underground, there has never been a better lyricist. His storytelling, flow and rhyming are definently the best every to hit rap music. I just dont like his music, what it stands for and what it is about.

Oh for sure. But Outlawz is dope. Lmfao, you bringin it up, now I'm playin it.


I definitely agree with a lot of what you say..but you usually have to explain what you mean, haha cause for the most part you come off as if you're trying to argue or be a prick :fyou: .. hahaha, but really you're only trying to make a point and express your opinon..yayaya. But I got you homie..just like I hate Necro..or some other bullshit artists..but I listen to a lot of genres, Eminem isn't even my favorite artist. I don't really have one..just depends on the mood.

UnEtHıCaL 04-06-2011 07:20 PM

*Plays Song*
*Songs Done*
*Posting Starts*

:D. Alot of the time I am trying to be an argumentative prick, and I havent had a good "Damn that Eminem" rant in a while, so I thank you good sir. Next week, the existance of the Illumanti feat. Pulse and War Tank. Anyways, it's not just Emienm. I hate everybody making music in mainstream "hip hop" today, hence my hatred of that list. Lil Wayne, Drake, New Kanye, Anyone from England assept Dizzee and Prof Green, Will I Am, Nikki Manaj etc. etc. I'm one of the "this is better because its older" kinda guys.

Worse than hip hop is anything to do with skating. I reciently found out that Green Day is skater music, and skinny jeans and died black gayboy hair is skater wear. When did this happen? What happened to Rakim, Linkin Park, Hoobastank and all of the old school skater songs? What happened to super baggy jeans and Karim Campbell being the regular skater look? Chad Muska being the coolest white guy ever? Bowling for Soup will make a 1995 for me soon :D

All Ey3 Killer 04-07-2011 02:04 AM

What about Canibus, Rakim ? I feel like Canibus is the most Prominent rapper in Battling Field ? Will u Elaborate your Thought/Opinion On canibus ?..........

Erupt da Monsta 04-07-2011 02:21 AM

canibus has a one dimensional approach... hes ait.. def got his own style... put in work against cool j.. alotta rappers come before bis..

canabitch would be somewhere before Az but after method man ..

the eminem beef and shit showed his heart.. along with tha cool j joint.. em ripped dude tho... and even cool j hd a few dope punches in his response tah go along witta dope beat.. bis won that one lyrically but for some reason LL dropped an elephant on bis entire rap life. hes been exposed as a bitch numerous times ... a fake dude from what ive heard . hasnt made a single impact on tha game.. honestly im leanin towards completely shittin on bis right now but ill fall back cus dudes got heart.

rakim is the godfather of your style

top ten easy

Vandahl 04-07-2011 04:00 AM

Canabis over Az??? Lol talkin reckless..

UnEtHıCaL 04-07-2011 08:00 AM

I dont like Cannibus music. I dont listen so couldnt really comment on it. Another one of Eminem's super non competitive opponants in diss tracks. NaS Vs Em is the diss we all want.

Rakim is a genius when he wants to be. His best line, as seen in UA's sigs, shits on almost anyone elses attempt at logical thinking in rap. I personally think Paid In Full is super overrated. I never liked any of the album to be honest. Rakim though has myfavourite skating song of all time, Don't Sweat The Technique.

Revan 04-07-2011 08:20 AM

LL one of the few dudes who actually ENDED another dudes career.

Fuck Bis. Overrated as FUCK.

All Ey3 Killer 04-07-2011 08:33 AM

Yea thats mine too " Don't Sweat The Technique "

UnEtHıCaL 04-07-2011 08:36 AM

Ever since I played Aggressive Inline Skating on PS1 it's been one of my favs haha

Erupt da Monsta 04-07-2011 12:42 PM

yeah bis is meh. i fucks with 2nd round k.o def one of tha best diss tracks of all time.. but other than that and gettin his ass smacked in every beef possible he hasnt done shit.... when u think about it

Az on the other.... never had much success .. was in a group with nas but the one album they dropped was garbage.. doe or die was dope.. still only went gold tho... as far as lyrically az is dope .. same style tho.. as far as influence id have tah say his biggest moment was bein nominated for a grammy.. him and nas dropped a joint called "the essence" ... never had much commercial success but is far more respected than biz and well yeah pretty much takes every category except versatility... Az>bis....

Erupt da Monsta 04-07-2011 12:48 PM

had tah continue shittin on bis right quick..

rule got me hype with that fuck bis comment :high:

Revan 04-07-2011 12:58 PM

I meant that shit too.

Tired of hear people hype this dude.

If taking a L to L didnt put him on the map he'd just be one of hundreds of others like him.

Erupt da Monsta 04-07-2011 01:06 PM

idk yo... hard tah call.. dude had maddddddd hype goin for himself before he pissed in his own grits goin against the goat.

Krhyme Killz 04-07-2011 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RULE (Post 609416)
LL one of the few dudes who actually ENDED another dudes career.

Fuck Bis. Overrated as FUCK.

lol...wooooow...

i think he damaged LL too though...and on the real Canibus is UNDERRATED. He's unique because the shit he does NO ONE else in the game can do...literally.

so that should mean something. i personally have all of his shit and think he's a freak of nature

that being said, he's not a well rounded emcee...but neither is Em. Even Em's party songs include someone farting or overdosing. He cant change lanes and he's not imaginative like a canibus or NaS. The whole Escobar shit and mafioso shit is mad creative for a regular nigga from the projects. Em stays in the same shit...dude cant keep Hannibal Lecter's name out of his mouth lol...NaS is one of the great artists of our time though

Revan 04-07-2011 01:44 PM

Dont get fucked up before ya big battle Killz.. :violent:

lol

Krhyme Killz 04-07-2011 02:50 PM

lol...all i'm saying is give dude a chance..listen to Rip vs Bis....dude is talented as fuck!

Anonymous Poet 04-07-2011 03:03 PM

Cassidy 47.

Will Smith 21???


WTF??

Erupt da Monsta 04-07-2011 03:09 PM

rulester just got cool js cock choppd up and sprinkld on his crumpets. dont mind him..

and yeah bissle has talent... but dude did nothin but get raped in front of millions of people concluding to his butt album and popularity value. hes nice but had an epic fail in the money industry and management... got tyson hypin em up tah go against ll...

UnEtHıCaL 04-07-2011 03:48 PM

Anon, that sounds about right. I dont get the deal with Cass. Dude brings punchlines to songs which I dont think go together, has this annoying ass lazy flow and decent at best lyrics.

Will Smith bringing Summertime, so he beats Cass on that alone. Follow that up with Miami and it's a rap.

Anonymous Poet 04-07-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by EtH (Post 609585)
Anon, that sounds about right. I dont get the deal with Cass. Dude brings punchlines to songs which I dont think go together, has this annoying ass lazy flow and decent at best lyrics.

Will Smith bringing Summertime, so he beats Cass on that alone. Follow that up with Miami and it's a rap.

Yo in my opinion thats just completely wrong..Cassidy is miles better than Will Smith. Tracks like switch get you to the 21 spot? Come on now..

Erupt da Monsta 04-07-2011 03:53 PM

will smith> cassidy

UnEtHıCaL 04-07-2011 05:55 PM

Erupt know wassup.

Summer summer summertime

Erupt da Monsta 04-07-2011 09:28 PM

that was my shit back in tha day...
will sold mad albums tho.. i think he won a grammy too or was nominated

METH_BARZ 04-08-2011 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by EtH (Post 608756)
The thing is aswell, it's been up for years as I remember it in like 08. Sites like this are more inclined to go deeper into hip hop and notice the lyrical side of it, but hip hop is not just about that. It is still a music industry at the end of the day, and there are lots and lots of people voting on this. That means more people into this hip hop music industry like these rappers above the rappers we like. It's the same industry. Therefore, by the numbers, Lil Wayne is a better rapper than Mos Def, Rakim, Talib, Slug, Kool G etc. etc. Fucking sad aint it?

everyones tastes are different don't get your panties in a bunch

Erupt da Monsta 04-08-2011 01:59 PM

good thread eth

Revan 04-08-2011 02:04 PM

Will Smith > Cassidy

UnEtHıCaL 04-09-2011 10:55 AM

Sweet, we already went over the "mentioning that everything is opinionated is gay" thing.

I find it ironic though Sweet considering that if it aint underground, it aint good, in your opinion.

Murderous Swag 04-09-2011 11:01 AM

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UnEtHıCaL 04-09-2011 11:03 AM

Wow, man teach me how to diss so freshly like that.

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cheapbeatsnow 04-09-2011 11:12 AM

yo we all got different flavaz dat move us so dont care what haterz gotta say do and listen 2 what u like yo 4 realz

Fable Bangers 04-09-2011 02:03 PM

Man, it's impossible for me to get angry at a list like this, it's pretty funny if you ask me. It's was obviously created to keep the simple minded entertained. Dr.Dre is ranked 19 out of 100 and he doesn't even write his own lyrics, lol. Anyways, true hip hop fans know what the deal is so, nuff said.

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