Who are you again?

Lmfaoooooo man this is hilarious

Ok a lot of attacks against mods lately I haven't taken seriously because they were either obvious trolling or just embittered drunk people. But there's people with genuine concerns here, and I'm sorry you feel that way.

Firstly, please bear in mind that all current active mods have only been modded in the past year or so. We didn't create the VP system as some sort of weapon to rule over the site with, its been around in various forms for about 15 years, we're just the latest set of staff with the latest iteration of the VP system doing our best to keep battles as fair and effective as possible.

We literally can't do a system-wide reset of everybody's VP to 1, even if we wanted to, because that would require administrators, and there are none active right now. Most of us agree we should lower staff VP to 3, and now that users seem to agree with that we'll try get it sorted as soon as we can. We don't have higher VP so we can go about willy nilly deciding random battles for the hell of it, it's there so we can sort things out when there's an influx of terrible voters (ie 3pointerj) because the users have shown enough trust in our judgement to appoint us as mods.

I'm genuinely sorry if you've ever asked one of us for help with something and we've not been helpful. It might be because we've been having a terrible day irl, or dealing with someone else harassing us on the site, or we might just be extremely busy and not have time to fully explain what we mean to you. Please bear in mind we don't really get any form of reward for this besides the ability to vote on Lizman battles; everything we do is out of caring about the site, not some hidden agenda to line our pockets or rack up titles or whatever.

Please feel free to message me privately or respond in this thread if you have any concerns about anything and I'll do my best to sort it; there isn't an active 'Head Mod' but if you're having problems with any one particular mod the other staff members will do our best to sort things for you.

Glad you have time to laugh instead of trying to fix the site but heres something you can maybe fix in the mean time. a 33% winner holding the battle back lol. mod multi maybe? seems like his vp is around 2-3 but why is it so high if hes not a good battler? hah,.....

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521794

The battle was held up closing because there was a 1 VP vote in each direction and the other voters had 0VP each. I’ve voted which should close it ASAP.

[QUOTE=Rowdy Punk;1211623]Haha 2FUEL told someone they had no fresh concepts? LMAO no way have you read his battles?


The most factual thing i have ever read on LB!!!

You really cant complain if your playing a sport based on opinion and then u have a debatable battle.

If you start clearing your opponents there wont be an issue

#BARS


As for the thread?

Mod votes from Kiwi and Odin are the only thing saving a major portion of the battles in the basic arena from being dickridden/uneducatedly voted on for the past 3 months or so.

Tourneys are the only place where the votes are legit 100% of the time now.

So if anybody got any issues try battling and voting more and you'll know rather than opening a can of worms on a mod esp when we have the hands down best bunch of mods currently.

Also, i don't care how gangsta you are my dick way too big bitch!!! UNGH.

:cool:

I second this. A lot of the votings outside tournaments trigger me man.

Thanks! The only bright side i guess is that most of it is innocent so if there is a concrete initiative to turn that into the opposite i don't think this site would have any voting issues to another 3-6 months at least.

Yeah.. There should Be no problems in terms of Voting in 3-6 months lol.. Tf..

this site always had voting issues.. but recently, mainly, there has been an influx of people adverse to Mod votes, and a lot of it is because they are the Deciders in battles that aren't being asked of them to intervene in..
and Generally people don't like the Mods who are Voting or respect them or their Skill, or even critique style.. Punk and Skitt are the only Mods that,.. have the least Animosity from Users and are Accepted,.. (idk why we had to have Skitt as a Mod..in the first place).. But he doesn't make any waves negatively..

if you're a dickhead, stop interacting with us.. do what it is that you do,.. on the technical side..

that is the issue.. The people are speaking/airing grievances and no one is Listening ,yet again,..

Word!...but how do we no wat our own VP is?...and if we can’t find out I think we should no.

That’s not something that an administrator has put into place. You can however ask any moderator and we’ll let you know. Yours is 2/2

Lol we could all kiss ass like saax for those high vp votes, or we can make good change, even it means some high vp hates votes, either way it’s too late to change my stance ;P

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Either way thank you for that response Kiwi just knowing you take our concerns seriously makes me glad, punk and Manhattan have also been helpful so I definitely know good mods are on here.

i kiss ass for free ! also you got 100-0'd so i can understand why ur still salty, that them cum shots in yo head! LOL

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folks have no beef with only the inactive mods (in voting terms) even a guy like manny catches flak otherwise coz most of the folks airing grievances? are noobs who don't even know that they don't know coz everybody thinks they too good to lose these days.

also 3-6 months is a lifetime on letsbeef, nothing ever lasts here for more than that and neither does it need to coz all the other times it is either dead or busy with major tourneys which is when the mixx ammos and the bnas' keep this place running for balls.

Grave Digga started this thread after sending me a link and asking me to vote on their battle, then getting mad when my vote went against them.

3-6 isn't a life time,..at all,..2 year's is like that if your are fully entrenched,..i consider the "Noobs" like Children, and as you Know.. Children.. Tell the truth,.. unless They Lie.. they walk up to you and ask you shit, that that see that is not normal about you,.. "Out of the mouth of babes".. You know the Axiom,.. I feel like Those people.. don't know the real Reason's.. to dislike the people in power, the shit they did while being, just like us, what they got banned for or why they should've, or overall fucked up history and thing's they've done with their alts, here and on other sites,..(even a guy like manny..tf) Fuck him the most..
we literally don't need the every 2 out of 3 tourneys won by mods,.. with the actual determining vote coming from that Left column.. Cuz their Vp matters while some of us have 1's and 0's.. on the right.. we talking about Congratulations to dudes who knew the fight was fixed before hand.. mods are winning battles with Recycled verses.. some in tourney and because it's a joke or they told on their selves.. they said Ok.. or Bitten ones ..or (Ghost written)

Its always the non skilled people complaining

nobody is non skilled here.. we all have a skill set.. everyone of us,. there is levels and it's all relative...

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=520917

Saax vs Mel, votes had Mel, 4-2, and surprisingly enough Saax won the battle with 2 Oldin and Kiwi, in close battles mods will likely sway in your forever, not cuz you did better but because even mods have congintive bias. You refuse to see this Saax because you benefit from those high vp votes. Saax you proposed a straw man fallacy, the argument you and oldin have, that new members are just “noobs that think they’re too good to lose”, is just an irrelevant way to sound condescending and boost your ego, who cares if people think they’re too good to lose, that’s not yours or the mods problem, but when a “noob”/ new member wins a battle 3-1 and 4-2 but still ends up losing the battle, yes that is a problem that needs to be looked at.

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You could say new members have an overconfidence bias which is true, they enjoy what they write, and personally like their material and style, so in battles yes they will favour their own material unless they clearly got destroyed, but nearly everyone has an overconfidence bias, it’s not a bad thing, and no they don’t think they’re too good to lose.

All staff is under fire except for me.. haha hate to see it huh

Fuck Mods- Been saying it for a decade ;)
https://www.letsbeef.com/cypher_deta...on=tb&id=54869

This happened?

1000%

For a mod to help decide a battle that has 2 shit votes doesn’t mean they need 4 vp- those other voters should have 0/1 vp anyway (talking real shit votes, not just lesser educated votes) so mods having 4vp is way overkill in that scenario, where 2 (or 3) would still do the job. And then in another scenario (like a tournament) the 4 will heavily outweigh another perfectly valid vote from someone like ALL BORO or Lockhart or whoever who only has 2. Giving mods 4vp just seems like a bad and imprecise lazy fix for the presence of lots of shit voters.

Tryna keep us down from jump Uny.

Someone gotta police the police. :high:

The entire thing is setup to be a big circle jerk. A regular member can win a battle against another regular member but if you battle any of these "mods" or their "fair" voter club yes men they always come in at the last second and vote for the person they want because their verse just "hit harder" and close the battle.

Pretty sad when someone can have 4-5 votes vs 1 and lose the battle.

Stop bitchin and email pugz

Real. I'm not even tripping. I'm kind of happy he dropped a dumb vote and the people get to witness first hand of what corruption looks like. There's good mods but you have other mods who think there above everyone else, typing stupid shit trying to deflect the mistakes they've made and refusing to reduce there vp. If only there was a solution

2021, A new system will be joining the site by the people to watch mod behavior. I think its only right a system is put in place that gives Mods 2 strikes and a poll that determines whether the offender will be replaced or removed. As of 12/9/2020, I'm declaring myself as the Leader of this System. Also as the leader, I'm giving Kiwi 1 strike and 4 days to reduce his vp. Kiwi mod title will be revoked if he fails to meet the requirements.

#GraveDigga4Admin

Drain the swamp man. For too long this site has been bogged down by corrupt mods advancing their evil agenda by slightly altering the outcomes of basic arena battles at no benefit for themselves. I may have already reduced my VP, responded to criticisms and dropped nearly 200 votes this season but I don't think that's enough. Dropping long, well-explained votes on basic arena battles just isn't acceptable. We need to get back to the good old days of mods like Shaz, Row or Pugz where there were no controversies or problems. Oldin, Banhattan, Plunk and Skirtt are all just as bad. Don't just demod us, permaban!

Banhattan lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo i'm dying!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kiwi just casually mentioning Shaz who probably on the active site only me and Student have ever heard of it go off new guy

reduce your vp. the site has spoken :high:

I think Kiwi, Banhattan and Oldin are the three toxic mods creating a majority of the problems TBH. Let's start by demoting these three back to members and see where we go from there.

i agree, but they also need to bring back the team battles, and Audio Cyphers and Audio cats who talk all that shit need to really put in work on the site.. get your Diss Tracks pumping.. the number one sites are from years ago.. open back up the beats Thread in the Forums too..

Where are all The SENDS from.. the British crowd?.. instead of tryna bite our American style,...
M TO THE B became a viral thing, and their subsequent responses,.. on a different website, and that could've been us.. but do you know what happens when we get females on this site?...or Girls who skills don't meet the "Ruling Elites" Expectations..?..

The only thing more American than mentioning M To the B in 2020 is calling M to the B.

Thought you’d appreciate that one :D

Kiwi is a multi account
Manny quit the site over having a ghostwriter
Fuel got demodded a year ago for having a ghostwriter and a multi acc

Damn model citizens.

Yea, literally promote the most toxic users to moderator status and wonder why the site goes to shit. ROFL