From what I know Irish, Americans and New Zealanders all pronounce book roughly the same; it’s actually buck that you pronounce in a different way to the rest of us. We say it somewhat like b-ah-k or b-uh-k.

& where on the whack to dope spectrum you think the 12 active letsbeefers fall bro? Lol.

I’m not tryna personally say I’m any better or above that, I’m here too but I’ve been here over a decade & seen how this place has evolved one dimensionally. Granted it’s evolved largely outside my scope & I haven’t been probably active enough to have an opinion but I’m just being real.

I get everyone’s different levels & that’s fair; I guess I just miss when folk on here were more versatile & comprehensive. Like y’all rly could be a bunch of 14 year olds for all I know. Shit is Kmart from what I’ve seen. Corny ass punches carry 5x more weight than they use too & tend to earn W’s bc y’all don’t have to think critically. & hell if y’all can’t put the small effort or comprehension to rhyme skull & pull? Tf writers giving any effort for? Dr Seuss Headasses, I know y’all can’t configure any complex flows then. It’s limiting. A solid verse on this site has been scooped into a technical snowglobe.

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Bro wtf a LB title going to get me? Hahahah am I gonna put that on my resume? Do you talk to your friends about your LB titles? Lol I think I’ve only ever participated in one or two tourneys my entire time here. & the voting on this site has been what consistently kept me inactive.

You have an opinion of people who have accumulated W's and titles bitching about the style of the site but you continue coming here.

You keep bitching about votes and verses and never drop either. Stop bitching and moaning about a site you barely contribute to.

I contributed more than you have, I just chose a particular era LB was more worth my time.

In 11 years you've contributed more than I have in 9-10 months? I fucking hope so.

You forget some ppl got lives? Lol. I was active af & then I wasn’t. For your sake I hope your not still putting 40 hrs a week into this place 10 yrs from now. That’s just how it is. I don’t owe LB anything lol it’s an under maintained website that turned into a cemetery circle jerk for kids like you. I hope LB elevates your game but that won’t mean shit if your readers can’t comprehend slant rhymes.

I don’t mean to come off harsh or salty like I’m not tryna put you or anyone down specifically I’m just addressing the culture of LB in general from my pov. & it’s no ones fault exactly bc members of a website shouldn’t’ve had to work as hard as they did to keep it where it is now so I guess I’m just venting.. it is what it is.

People look to the past with rose colored glasses I'm afraid. I had an account way back when I was a freshman. Honestly from my perspective the verses going through are more complex than they were then. But I see a lot of old heads not active but still shit talking in the forums about the new gen coming up. The only time 90% of the heavy hitters drop is in a tourney. I just don't see how all of them can shit all over ranked without hardly participating in it. Like shitting on a basketball team from the stands.

My guy... :high:

I feel you with the rose colored glasses.. & some battlers did step it up I'm not denying that but voting was definitely more comprehensive then. You don't see new names climbing the ranks now like they use to (aside from kiwi or whatever from what I've seen) it's just the average to above average old heads who have stuck around & the other ppl around haven't exactly gotten better, just stingy lol.

Your government is only as good as your voting you know? You did have a lot of hate votes & dickriders back then which sucked but the general appreciation for creativity has dwindled alot. It is completely subjective but creativity for me is where the strength is in a verse. Fresh concepts are of utmost importance... then flow & delivery, then punches (but those two are way more interchangable). Complex multies, metaphors, wordplay, etc. Hell throw in alliteration, double timing, etc. I'd consider almost staples in every verse, but that's flexible. Ya'll more-so judge strictly on punches now, no matter how basic the concepts, how lack-luster the creativity overall, how boring the flow & lousy the set ups—like its a boxing match. It isn't, mostly lol. It's more mental. It's completely mental. This shit is an artform, there's suppose to be style points. A punch with a weak concept is tantamount to a swing & miss. Imagine a song with a weak flow & delivery, nothing else would matter bc the dude sounds like ass - the song would suck. You can't land punches if you don't know how to swing them. & a verse with no multis, metaphors, or wordplay is just boring. Just throwing jabs won't do the trick, you need hooks, you need uppercuts, you need bodyshots... feel me?

You use to see something a little different back then & be like ooooo. Now being different means youre harder to read. & yo deadass I'm trying to pronounce skull & pull in a way that doesn't rhyme & I like can't so its boggling to me that yall would really expect ppl to rhyme more precise than that & distinctly to your accent or else it's just written off. Use your imagination, be open minded. Voters think they're simon cowell out here, you're not, you're just readers.

That makes sense to me. Voting used to be based on different shit too. I haven't seen a battle with anything but a flat vote in a long time. Their used to be categories. I haven't seen that shit since I got back at all.

I tend to read shit generally. In general, pull and skull is very off and I would never comfortably read that in text form.

Man and Smack work for me though. The A sound is all the rhyme

SMACK THIS DUDE
RAPPING GOOD
MAN IS CRUDE

Ironically when writing these you'll probably find one I'll always get off. In Scotland food, good, dude, rude all rhyme and even putting on accents those still sounds the same so it's always hard for me to catch.

But yeah, pull/stool/school/drool, skull/null/gul/cull

Yo ill battle u bro if u think the sites dead. Set the terms. Im climbin the ladders tryna keep it alive. Respect. :pimp:

Not as much dead as just... simpler. Voter are either lazy dick riders or close minded. This place feels more like a popularity contests for accolades more so than artists tryna push their game. I don’t see artists or even individuals here as much.

I rly have little room to speak as I don’t vote but y’all gave me 50+ credits for voting on a tourney lmao & at least when I vote I VOTE. I read verses 3 to 10 times. I experiment with flows & rhymes. I break it down bar by bar, measure the complexity of the scheme, freshness of the concept, how it was delivered, if it comes back effectively later on. Etc etc. I do it empathetically & comprehensively. Y’all sit back & wait to be impressed like Eminem is suddenly gonna log on lol.

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Like I see y’alls criticism & I respect it. I see how y’all want people to set up their multies, I see how y’all want words to rhyme one dimensionally, I see how y’all skip around concepts to maximize punches. I see y’all. & I saw RULES rookie how to rap thread too hahah & I think it’s great & all I just don’t agree. Ppl have grown alienated if they’re not textbook that’s boring to me.

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See like man & smack to me don’t rhyme but they’d be 100% fine for most internals. & even so depending how effective the delivery & concept & how easily it rolls off the tongue it could work.

A rapper rhymes words ... A lyricist makes words rhyme

Hell poets don’t even rhyme sometimes & that goes for Kendrick.

You what? Lol. pULL stOOL... No, fam. lol

The 'ull' in both pull and skull match.

It isn't pool..."What happened your back, man?" Ah, i strained a muscle swimming at the pull...


Ya'll on some fucking drugs, i swear. :monkey::monkey:

i STILL remember when Lil Wayne rhymed Rock with July in that damn Kevin Rudolph song

@Manhattan

that song made many charts.. plenty of money.. so rhyming those words was a smart move in my eyes...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can%27...t_(T-Pain_song)

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I think the important thing to remember is that the crowd we are really appealing to on this site when it comes to battle rap is a body of other rappers... Everyone judging our lyrics are writers themselves. Of course there will be criticisms on word choice, style techniques, etc... To a crowd of people who aren't also battle rapping half of the technical factors we care about actually don't matter. People want to be entertained when it comes to music and lyrics. They don't want to analyze. As voters that are also battling, we analyze critically. With all honesty also, who can actually read someone's text battle and know the exact flow someone is using. If you can, you're lying... there's a big difference in reading and listening. Even without the accent of some of the foreign rappers I can still rhyme the words that they do. It looks funky when written, but delivered in speech it's perfectly fine.

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@S T O Y

yeah.. because if you emphasize on particular sounds the words will rhyme.. it removes all limit from writing lyrics... another song that also made chart positions and plenty of money.. smart move..