Just to reitorate again, this is in no way a shock at Lock. I just happened to battle him while he was under a new account and in my side that pissed me off. But I completely know why he did it and why he felt he had to. Just as a potential opponent of anyone, I don't want to face you in a tournament and hear Slick Ray this or that while you hold me back from my own verse.

See "collectively, you who are."

It's relative to your post, because, hey, don't try to find it.

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Having a multi doesn't equate to having the intent to cheat.

From what ii know and what LB history I’ve read
FACT is multis have always existed,
And they always will, even if you ban multis people will make them.

The site claims “Mods can see all multis.”
so what’s the issue?
What needs work clearly is making
Sure these accounts are being fair,
the way the site is policed-
We need to look at-
Accounts that pop up battle once or vote once
And then disappear need to be looked at.
Accounts that HV, accounts that crews
Are using constantly as snipe dummies.

I agree, that's why I suggested a work around / alternative to have people PM mods on their mains, to tell them who their multis are, (assuming mods will keep it a secret) I know people will have different views, this is why I suggested this, my point is not to ruin anyones fun, but to ensure everything is being done fairly. For example, REZN wants to practice his scheme battles, he creates a new account cause he doesn't want to ruin his record, he PM's RULE on his REZN account and tells him whats going on.

Mod's can see most multis, there are former staff members that know how the background stuff works and have figured out work arounds, one of the biggest cheaters this site has seen was an admin in the past. I see your point that multis will always exist, and I gave this analogy earlier to someone else... the war on drugs, is still on-going, (you could say), yeah, there's mountains of coke being pumped into the streets still, you can't help it, but at least these people are actively being hunted down, it may not REMOVE multis, but it will certainly DECREASE multis. (drug traffickers in this analogy).

REZN IS a multi account.

No, I'M the multi account.

Have mercy!

I don't know what the prevailing view on this in the US/Canada is, but from what I've seen and read the war on drugs has been a pretty abysmal failure. However, the alternative Seul suggested (wherein multis must be confidentially declared to staff upon creation) is something I'd definitely support.

What I think is important to consider is that most multi-related cheating sagas don't involve a freshly-created account, but rather a years-old account that has been dormant (a sleeper-agent, if you will).

Rant, we know who your multis are, that's my point, we ain't gotta worry about you. It's the "Sleeper-Agents" Kiiwii has mentioned, for example, there's a random account made in 2017 that just logged in randomly, 0 battles and what not. Suspicious as fuck.

Oh well, you know my fucking stance on this, i ain't gonna talk about it anymore. ez.

Correct me if I'm wrong but multis were originally against the rules. Like it takes work to create a multi. You have to make a burner email. Maybe even log in in a new device or have a VPN. It takes a shocking amount of work to skirt site rules and do. And multis dont equal cheating but it certainly enables it.

You still can't just freely make multi accounts. When you attempt to, it'll say you already have an account registered. Sometimes you need a proxy to do it. It IS against the rules, only certain people got away with it due to reputation.

Having a multi account is not against the rules.

Multi Accounts [Self Voting & Battling]: You are allowed to sign up and use one or more accounts. Note however that ALL moderators know that you have registered two or more accounts and their names. So, if you are caught voting in open battles you have on account A with account B or vice versa you WILL be banned. Battling yourself is not acceptable either.

You should see the recycling Rules
They’re scary a lot of heads should
Be banned but we’ll leave that to the dedsec snitches:high:

Talk to them nicely, Uncle Jesse!

I enjoy making multi accounts. I have fun with them. I usually let staff know when I make a new multi. I don't try to hide it whatsoever. Never had any trouble with my multi accounts. Before, when it cost credits to battle, my boy @Student would transfer credits from my main account to my multis so I could battle without voting. I don't vote on my multi accounts. They are just themed/gimmick accounts. The *only* time I pretended to be a new guy was on count wackula. I also wrote my lines at a "new guy" level. Creating multis is a part of my LB experience. I don't take this as serious as most, so coming up with "characters" is fun for me. I've never been a good battler. I just like being creative. Banning multis altogether would kill my dreams of creating a new gimmick account on a whim.

#JusticeForWackula

Nah, for real, though. I think as long as multi accounts are registered with staff or given 0VP off the bat, they should be fine. Just none of this bullshit "I'm a new guy" multis. No one likes that shit.

Although its specifically coded into the website that you can't do it?

Yes

1/

Brah I wrote this shit back in like 2012. Since then, rules have changed a gazillion times. Y’all should seriously update this page

Wait so they’ve changed the rules
But haven’t updated it in the rules
Page? Wow just wow lmao

This happens quite a bit actually

on my to-do list.

along with 10000000 other things.

LB Site Bible coming 2020 :D

The moderators can very easily see multis, without a doubt.
Every person who creates an account has their IP logged and sent to the moderators, so the moderators know full well who is behind every account, whether you like it or not. So the mods most certainly are lacking, they need to ban multi accounts, i'm completely shocked that it's still within the rules that you can make one? that doesnt make any sense to me.

#banmultis

The thing is you can log in from a library, college, work. You can use vpns. The IP scan obviously isnt perfect. If it were multis would be way easier to police. As it stands, it's difficult to stay on top of.

That’s why banning multis won’t work. Anyone using one for nefarious reasons still can, and with a basic level of effort and competence can avoid detection. Banning multis will only stop the good guys, who just use them for fun and who bring a lot of humour and activity to the site. I think more comprehensive rules around multis and new accounts, like higher barriers to tournament entry and compulsory registering of multis with staff, is the best way to curb the malevolent multis but keep the innocent ones.

Y'all out here saying "They change the rules without updating the rules page?" Like this mod team aint out here doin shit. I'm 100% sure they out there doin shit for the site. I know RULE and Auto been doin shit for sure. X always been busy as shit cranking new shit out. This one little thing aint worth it honestly.

Why do you keep trying to control
Something you clearly can’t? (This ban multis none sense)
Do your job and moderate battles!

Also some people here don’t see past
Their tournament titles.
@X has a business to run
Explain how less traffic multi or not
Is good for business?

Some of these employees brains
have a flawed code to text ratio lmfaoo

Okay agreed, completely. Everything you said is true.

Butttt, I draw the line when moderators KNOW regardless of VPNs etc, that somebody is another person, then they let is slide.

This isn't a debate on whether or not multis are good/bad, this a debate on whether or not is should be allowed. It's hard to detect people who dont want to be dected, agreed, but some people are very open about this stuff.