Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1164712)

Aggo, it's been about 7 years now. You STILL think I can't break up crews? :D

Originally Posted by Phe (Post 1164792)

Why 6 teams? Why not 2 or 3 decent sized teams? If that happened there could be plenty of different types of battle formats.. And lets say there was 2 teams, what if 2 random crews were made rather than 2 already existing crews?

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1st and 2nd place in this text grand championship gets to be leaders in the crew draft..

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1164830)

So Lock wants everyone to vote in his battles and Shodan is blaming me for the sites decay so I cant imagine either want to take part.

Is everyone still down if they dont?

Still waiting to here back from the Anbu boys

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1164830)

So Lock wants everyone to vote in his battles

Originally Posted by Row (Post 1164835)

I'm waiting too

Originally Posted by Rieper (Post 1164837)

I also specified that I wanted to be able to vote on everyone else's battles, as well, since I'm FVC.

Originally Posted by RARE FORM (Post 1164842)

Hey hey, 2x Crew of the year. Calm that shit

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1164815)

Then everyone joins those two and no one can vote on anything.

Originally Posted by Phe (Post 1164845)

6 crews still seems like too many..

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1164841)

But it's more the other thing right?

Originally Posted by Rieper (Post 1164849)

That counters the point you were trying to make yourself. Why crew up with such a small amount of battlers present? That makes the voting pool even less than what it is currently.

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1164846)

I think 4 minimum would be important

Originally Posted by Phe (Post 1164851)

I agree with this.. That way we could have more battles and battles can be done in different formats without having to use someone twice.. Its not really taking away too much from voting either since there would be 2 other teams that could vote.. Or if we did have just 2 teams then the max limit of members on a team could be like 10 or 12..

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1164854)

I'll give it until tonight some time and if there's nothing more from Shodan, Lock or anyone from Anbu they can say their peace in the sign up thread.

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I'm going to do a little bit of a sample draft with some research into voting:-

Crew 1
EtH
guts
Edgeworth
sWORDz
zaKw0n

Crew 2
Seul
Phe
Alzie
Dysfunctional
MaCc

Crew 3
Aggo
Saiyan
KG
Punk
YC

Crew 4
Row
Student
Tyrant
Brayne Ded
Salford

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Out of the above, only Salford, MaCc and the guys from Anbu haven't already confirmed interest.

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I'll take the most popular guy from each sample crew; Edgeworth, Seul, Aggo (Punk's maybe not as active) and Row. I'll look at how many votes they'd be potentially missing out from the guys in their crews:-

Edgeworth's last 5:-
guts voted on 2 battles.
sWORDz voted on 1 battle.
Total = 3 votes in 5 battles.

Seul's last 5:-
Alzie voted on 2 battles.
Total = 2 votes in 5 battles.

Aggo's last 5:-
KG voted on all 5 battles.
Total = 5 votes in 5 battles.

Row's last 5:-
Tyrant voted on 2 battles.
Brayne Ded voted on 1 battle.
Total = 3 votes in 5 battles.


On average, with these random crews, you'd lose 3.25 votes per 5 battles (0.65 votes per battle).

Doing shit like this would turn a lot of people that are fairly inactive voters into active voters, so I feel you could expect at least 1 fresh vote per battle. Hell if I promised to vote on all your battles, only the 4 in my crew would need 1 extra vote which is very doable.

Originally Posted by Brayne Ded (Post 1164859)

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1164852)

Take yourself. You've not been active or voting in a few months. If you joined this and got interested, boom, another active battler and voter.

There's plenty of active people on here who aren't doing shit like me, and plenty of people like yourself who aren't active for long periods of time. We could both get sucked into doing some shit like this and that'd give two new guys voting on the spot.

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1164697)

Reason

I've ALWAYS opposed a draft of crews on Letsbeef. The reason was pretty simple; I was always running and progressing with an active crew. However I'd say this is the first time every on LB where NO crews are currently putting in any work. NO ONE is progressing at all in terms of crews, and I feel this is a significant hit to the site because crews are probably the most engaging aspect we have.

Thus, I think finally putting together a crew draft (that will actually work as I'd be running it) would be the perfect thing to kick everyone's arse into gear and actually do something different on the site for a change.

Members on LB have also somehow fallen into this rigid loyalty to crews that essentially don't exist. Apoc, Anbu, LoD, Turnbull ACs, Fire Nation...no one is really trying to become the best crew or clash with rival crews. They're all just....there. No one is actually attempting to do anything crew wise, and I hope that we can get some folks to sort of shake of this "undying loyalty" thing and start something new and fresh, because sticking with an old unused crew stagnates instantly.



Basic Concept

It might be a little bit ambitious, but it leaves some room for scope. I was thinking:-

• 6 Crews
• 6 Leaders
• Maximum of 10 members per crew
• Illmania 5 in May

I think 6 means that there's more opportunity for organic rivalries, as opposed to the same couple deliberately going after each other to create fake beef. I think 10 members does add up to a lot, but even if we don't get people to "sign up" exactly, we could always just recruit people to the crews naturally as long as we adhere to the 10 members limit. I feel that May is a month that isn't overboard with other focuses.

Crew members could leave, join other crews, get kicked, everything they normally could. The only thing that would exclude them is some form of deliberate breach of a pre-determined rule in the process.

Illmania has always been the biggest event on the site, and I think by pushing the boat out and really doing something different for this one, we might just drag some more activity out of the site.



Additional Concept

As a side proposal to the above, I think it would also be good to reward the progress of each crew. A natural one would be to set up some kind of points system (which I could track) that allocates points based on how far someone was to go in a tournament for example. I think one aspect I'd definitely want is to add points based on simply winning battles, which hopefully would point people towards the basic arena.

I haven't fully thought out what the incentive or reward would be yet. An extra man for the crew with the most points at the end of the month? Maybe the ability to force a swap with another crew which the member can't disagree to? Maybe the ability to create a custom battle for the Illmania card? I'm not sure, but I think the ability to progress as a crew individually, but also still have it come back to benefit the crew, would be a good way to kill two birds with one stone.

Any suggestions in this aspect would be great.



What are everyone's thoughts, and more importantly who would be interested in progressing further with this idea? Also if anyone has any questions or suggestions drop them in the thread too.

Also, don't wait for other people to post in the thread. Letsbeef has this habit of everyone waiting for a "big vet" to show their interest first, so get your thoughts down there as soon as you have them.

I really think a concept like this could at the very least get us all engaged in something for a couple of months, so as much participation as possible would be great.

Originally Posted by Aggo (Post 1191024)

This thread is like a year old. This already happened and fell through once.

Originally Posted by IIAM (Post 1191029)

Oh but there’s supposed to be a 2020
ill mania right?