"This will affect me personally in this way

"No it won't. I know you better than you know you"

What you could do @NOBLE is try to make trophy's that distinctly say ex. (Title champion )+year that they won so that way it can be prominently displayed where the awards normally. I think this is what the people with titles are mainly concerned about. That their particular title isn't properly adorned for all to see and know what distinct tourney they won..that way you can have the actual title holder have his directly under his name for the year.

Reset all time rankings and the way points work off of wins and losses like I've said before. So sniping is discouraged and the rankings are more realistic. Also, make people get a win every one or 2 weeks to keep their streak alive. That will give people a reason to battle. If someone feels like they don't want to battle since they won a GC or whatever then they don't really want to battle in general.


If I no longer have the titles that I earned with the hardwork of my brain / pen game then majority of those battles were really for nothing and I would have 0 motivation to continue battling or do any of those things over again just to have them erased. Collecting titles and racking them up is like rare achievements in a high skill cap video game that very few people can accomplish.. The type of shit you want symbolized under your name wherever you go because you clearly had the skill and put in the time/effort to set yourself apart from the rest when it was for all the marbles. A big reason people didn't make long runs in the LBA/LBT is because the title wasn't permanent. Only reason people have been striving to do that lately is to get the permanent title. That says a lot. If someone's satisfied after winning a title I don't think taking away their title will motivate them again because they already don't love this shit.. If anything it would probably push them away from battling even more

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. The titles are good in more ways than one clearly

This new and refreshing idea is an effort to get the old and crusty motivated again....they dont answer callouts or bars in their inboxes, why would they care about losing their titles if they aint logged in for years?

"Hey, we took your title away (enter champs name from 5 years ago here)"
"Ooh, Im mad....lemme pick up a pen for the first time in years to get my usertitle back"

Right....yall dont respond when youre broken down to be perceived as garbage but take away yall titles and youll grab them pens lickety split. Either its lies or yall priorities are all outta whack

theres plenty of ways to try new and refreshing things to generate activity....but if activity sucks, why kill it further by taking something important away from those that are actually faithful and contributing?

Y'all worried as Bleu pointed out about keeping the titles under your name for all to see the accomplishments you made. I get that. What I'm proposing as a compromise is to have the past titles wit their corresponding year be relocated to where the awards and trophy's are located. That way the currently held title will be directly below the name @NOBLE could this be done

Me? Im not worried about a damn thing besides activity....and a tourney with Bleu and Aggo in it is better than one without them in it....cept when the dickheads make cancer jokes and my team doesnt move on but thats neither here nor there.

Im reacting to the active crowd's opinion....You're among the crowd Noble is hoping to appeal to with this change, Illo....flat out, would making the scheme and tag team title interchangeable (because we didnt keep any other orange text titles) make you battle more often and more consistently?

It's about time we put that cancer joke benign'd us.

I see where Noble is coming from, but I think taking away people's titles is a bad idea. It won't have the effect you are suggesting, at least not overall. I'm guessing that it will demotivate more individuals than it motivates. The lack of interest in LBT/LBA is something that demonstrates how temporary titles can be less motivating, and beyond that, taking away people's accomplishments is really going to take the wind out of their sails. Now, I do realize that you are not talking about taking the titles away entirely, and that you just want to see them removed from below user names, but that is one of the most important parts of a title. It is immediately visible to anyone who views a profile. Maybe a compromise could be splitting user groups so that the colors could be removed from the names of past title holders, while the title remains under their name on profiles. New groups could be created for current title holders to have the colored names.

As far as the rankings, I think this is an area that could generate wayyyy more activity if it were revamped. I like Bleu's idea of simply resetting it, but that's definitely too drastic because it would be like erasing history. Even though it is pretty much a bullshit record of history lol. What if we were to sort of "retire" the current rankings and preserve them in a thread, and then start fresh with a new era? I don't know what you would use as a headline to describe the new rankings, but something that reflects the fact that they do not include pre 2018 numbers. And don't use the same system. Develop something that better represents the actual ranks instead of just the mass sniper and ducking folks.

I actually like @Row's idea of expiring flames. I think it would work great coupled with @Bleu's idea of requiring people to win at least once every two weeks in order to keep their flames.
@ILLoKWENT I'm down to make such trophies if people are actually for it. The majority of people in this thread seem to be against making any changes to titles, however. @Bleu can you be more specific as to exactly how points off wins and losses would be reorganized so as to discourage sniping? What you're saying sounds good but it's rather vague.

I can think of certain ways to make rankings reflect battler strength rather than amount of wins, but incorporating ELO into the rankings might be rather complicated, and I don't know if X is up for coding that.

Would it make sense and/or be possible to have it correlate points awarded for wins to the difference between a battlers ranks. So if "#1 bnas", beats "#60,000 just joined the site and had his first battle, Nobody", then bnas gets almost no points. But if newbie beats #1 He gets a butt ton of points for that battle.

I'm not articulating this well currently cuz it's late on a weekend, and I does this. But I think you get the drift.

I think it already works that way to some extent. It's related to the stars system. If you have open battles and you look on your page, it tells you how many stars each battle is worth, and that also ties into how high up the hotlist it reaches depending on what other battles are up.

If you check out the exclusive league rankings, for example, you will see that some people are rated higher and have more points off the same amount of wins than others. This is because they got more points off those wins.

Makes sense. I wonder what the numbers look like though and if they could be adjusted to better reflect our ideals.

Splitting things up into divisions would make things interesting for both the hardcore users who have been around and the new heads because it gives you another layer of shit to strive for and the format of the site as a whole. Say you hit the top 25 of the rankings, then you can only battle people from 1-25 and that would be division 1, 26-50 can be division 2, and so on. This would eliminate people racking up wins on much weaker opponents and make things more competitive / interesting imo.


EDIT: And we can let people battle outside of their division battle eachother but the further away you get from your opponent rank wise the less reward you get for wins. So say Bnas is #1 and he battles a straight noob who is 0-3 he should get 1 point per win. While if he battled someone in his division, even ranked a bit lower than him and won he would get 15 points.

The out of division battles should be more rare, maybe you only are allowed 5 a month or something

Pretty damn good idea

Then put the resetting credits idea into play and you really could have a good formula going.

If you earned it you keep it unless it's interchangable ala LBT. I'm al for less titles. Shit I was more than happy removing my Patriarch as it's a life service/honorary title. But competitors who win tourneys earned the right to wear their titles with pride.

Unless 100 % of them vote yes. And I mean 100. They shouldn't be removed by vote of a bunch of randoms who haven't won shit. Do that and you're shitting on titlists and shooting yourself in the foot. Don't go there.

I actually was pretty proud of Patriarch...until Fiji OSa.

I already did all the formulas and stuff for this. All it needs is implemented.

Dope! Any idea when it will get implemented? And will we also have the tiered weight classes that some have been asking for? I can see the unranked arena being re-purposed for such a thing. It's rarely used at all, so we might as well make some other use of it.

There’s about 20 people max that use this site regularly. If you done leagues won’t we just end up seeing the same few people battle all the time?

Everybody's a fuckin champion these days


I think there should be a "title history" on ur page or smtn. Bragging rights u know


Til then give me bk my tag title

Not leagues, divisions. And we already see the same people battle all the time for that same reason. This way they're pitted against eachother even more and things are made more competitive. People will still be able to battle outside of their division it'll just be more limited to keep things evenly matched more often and prevent sniping.

Damn, this is quite a good idea :haters:

Walking proof the 'golden era' is severely overrated....Mind Fuck must still have back problems from that ordeal.

No idea at all. I'll share the google spread sheet I made and link you the thread if you want to see how I worked out fixing the rankings.

Lol Rain Matrix and Mind Fuck didn't win that in "golden era".

Rain was actually good once upon a time. His battle with Real Talk was dope.

I guess I need a start and finish on the official golden era. I'll check that battle though if you're vouching for it

All my prime verses were deleted cuz of eth lol

My battle w/ Louie dawgs was good too ... In the 3rd(?) Basic text tourney. Still there


I was killing it bk then ... Top 3 . Still better than u niggas tho , with ur stretched out punchlines. Boring af , nobody wants to read that shit. S'why battles don't get voted on , and it's why the sites dead ... Cuz wack niggas are running the site


Whatever u niggas wanna think is dope tho