i didnt say he was... i just think his waaay overrated...

but im sayin dudes like Norris Cole, Chalmers(not so much this year), Birdman, etc. their all iight role players, Lebron makes them dudes better.

i know it was a few years ago but KD couldnt compete with Lebron in the Championship. Plus even his own fans says he's been choking...

Lebron's more consistent than KD cause he can take it to the hoop.

Let's put it this way...

If you were a team & could pick any player in the NBA to build around, who would you pick?

Lebron brought the Cavs to the finals by himself...I can't name 1 other person on that team, except Mo Williams...

I got the Thunder taking this in the full 7. Unreal series to watch though. @BLUNT-MAN did you honestly just say Durant can't take it to the hoop? You got to be kidding me. Also Lebron had Drew Gooden, Big Z, Donyell Marshall, Larry Hughes...etc. Mo Williams wasn't on the team that year....

@Manhattan i didnt say Durant can't take it to the hoop.. but he can't do it like Lebron can. Plus idk what y'all are watching but Durant's a str8 shooter. Once Kobe fell off, Durant's the best shooter in the game. But Lebron's a better player & asset.

& all those names.. Drew Gooden, Larry Hughes, etc. where they at now? (i really don't know) i wouldn't consider anyone of those players all stars or any that had a real good career. Lebron made them better than they were...

They all retired lol.. Back then Cleveland had a very solid team. Lebron was just the standout guy... He certainly didn't have a d wade next to him but my no means he wasn't the only one out there.

KD has improved and learnt a lot from that final 2 years ago. He just won an MVP to confidence is high! With thunder having home advantage I'd say the take it in game 7 and prollie head on to the final

take lebron off that team & they dont make playoffs, let alone go to a championship. Bron's the type of player that makes everyone better around him.

spurs will win it. u never see a team do a repeat on the same squad.

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teams that couldnt be fuckd with


04 nets
07 cavs
06 heat
08 suns
09 lakers
05 pistons
10 cavs
08 celtics
06 gsw
09 rockets

Nope... Without lebron these cavs where like today's Chicago without DR. A playoff team but with bron they were seeded higher n made better runs in the playoffs

Are You Serious? LoL... First of all Rose is a pussy & should never be compared to Lebron. Second, the Bulls have a solid team already.. Noah, Hinrich, Boozer,etc. Chicago has more money than the Cavs, which makes a huge difference in sports. Third, What happened when Lebron left the Cavs?.... They went from 1st place/championship team to a bunch of scrubs that had the worst record in the league & the most dramatic drop in Win to Loss ratio in NBA history. I rest my case. Not gonna argue with you Euro fags about an America sport. Cuz any1 that compares Rose/Bulls to Cavs/Lebron is obviously retarded and has never touched a basketball before.

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And when have the Cavs made a playoff run since Lebron left??? LOL

Okay, this is how it goes. You get an orangutan. I'm not talking a little monkey or some dancing chimp bullshit, I mean a fucking orangutan. Don't ask me how you're gonna get a fucking orangutan, because that's not my problem.
So the orangutan's name is Clyde. This is non-negotiable; all orangutans are named Clyde. I don't know why that is, it's just how the world works. So you and Clyde become man (and ape) about town. You're seen everywhere together, you make the scene. You and friends go out in big groups. You talk loud, you laugh louder. Every time you say something witty, you high-five the orangutan. The town begins to buzz. It gets back to her. "Did you know the guy with the orangutan?", "You used to date the guy with the orangutan?", "Why would you break up with a guy with an orangutan?". Next thing you know she's calling.
"I'm hoping we can still be friends. Wanna hang out sometime?"
"Geez, I dunno; me and Clyde were going to go to monster truck race tonight (orangutans love monster trucks). In fact, the whole social calendar seems kinda full. I tell you what, I'll make a little note (what was your name again?) and maybe I can squeeze you in. Oh well, you know my number so don't be a stra-- Hey, look at the time! I gotta skate, Clyde's making Mojitoes."
At this point, the upper hand is yours. You can let her twist in the wind, you can draw her back into your life at the pace you decide. Whatever, it's your life. But if you're a smart man? You slowly phase her back in. You're IM-ing. You're talking on Live. You get invited to family functions. You bring Clyde, he becomes like one of the family. You're one big Brady Bunch.

Lmao you are obviously retarded for completely misunderstanding my comment. Saying that gooden iglauskas and Hughes were scrubs really shows ur knowledge of basketball. I never compared lebron to rose lol... I just compared Chicago and Clevelands performance without their superstars... Dumbass.

They haven't ... Which proves the point that if a team doesn't make the playoffs isn't a team full of scrubs... Unless you think waiters and kyrie fall into that category then I rest my case.

Also lebron had delonte west, Ben wallace, shaq, Jamison and Pavlovic (clevelands mike miller) before he left so he was hardly by himself. Before you go off again know that I consider lebron to be the best player in the league. Btw when lebron left the team went to shits because out of these 8 players I mentioned only Jamison remained

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all those players you mentioned were either average as fuck or way past their prime. Lebron had no all stars in Cleveland. It's well known you need a decent surrounding cast to win a championship, it's amazing Lebron brought them their by himself with an average cast.

Jordan had Pippen, Rodman, Horace Grant, Steve Kerr, etc. -- All Allstars. & Jordan's GOAT but he wouldn't be able to win with the players Lebron had in Cleveland..

Even Kobe had Shaq (in his prime, not 10 years later), Karl Malone, Gary Payton. & Kobe's a ball hog too, but he needed that cast to win. Those are all All Stars.

Paul Pierce, my favorite player & top 3 celtics of all time. He couldn't do shit until Ray Allen & Garnett joined the team & turned things around. Also Rondo stepped up, along with a hyped bench.

Look at any championship team, they all have at least 3 All Stars, along with some average in the mix.

@OSKAR See what I'm sayin?? Lebron had alright players but no all stars like i mentioned above, which is a formula for a championship. He made them better than they were, Lebron's not a selfish player he has some of the dopest passes. Dude's like Magic Johnson. which is why when they put the bench in, they always keep Bron in their to play with him.

&& Atleast you think Bron is the best in the NBA, anyone who doesn't is overlooking many aspects of the game.