No you don't . if you did you would have said that before subreal came in here. you're winging and latching to others posts like they are your own.

And did you admit to getting crack earlier?

? ive always said its the same chemical/same drug. same ACTIVE ingredient to be exact. I never bought crack before, but ive seen it, touched it, watched my friend make it on his stove & ive been around friends who've smoked it, but no i have never smoked crack.

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i meant to put i CAN get those prices... if i wanted to...

So you sell it?

No... are you even reading what im saying????? my friend used to sell it.

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I used to sell Bud, small quantities, nothing big.

But you said you get .7-1 gram of crack for like 15-20 bucks.

Does ya boy fix you up?

smh... i can get those prices... i dont tho. I got a good cocaine connect tho, you want some? ill make some crack for you too so you can figure it out yourself....

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i can get heroin too, does that mean i get that all the time??? {NO}

next you'll be telling me tomatoes are ketchup because tomatoes go into making ketchup and the only difference is the tomato is solid and round and the ketchup uses vinegar (baking soda) and is a pulped goo which tastes different.

@Just C unless you've had any personal experience with crack cocaine, just stfu. it's useless talking to you.

Whether you like it or not, Crack/Cocaine has the same active chemical that gets you high.

#IMOUT

~1~

Bro.. crack is just the freebase form of cocaine. Cocaine is the salt form. It's the same thing.

PLEASE NO MORE ANALOGIES!!!!!

Yes professor Subreal. And ketchup is just processed tomatoes but ketchup is not a fucking tomato, is it?

it is called tomato crack cocaine ketchup because a tomato coke goes into making tomato crack cocaine ketchup but you can't call tomato crack cocaine ketchup a tomato coke, can you?

Ketchup has other ingredients, ketchup isn't pure processed tomatoes obviously, eat a tomato and ketchup tell me if they taste the same? Crack Cocaine is just another form of Cocaine. If people add baking soda to it and shit to it to increase weight, and lace it with other shit then it's no longer crack cocaine. People add shit to crack cocaine and still call it crack cocaine, which is incorrect. So if they add baking soda and shit or whatever, it's no longer pure crack cocaine is it?

if u got water and add crystal light, it's not just water anymore

Crack has other ingredients too and the effect of crack/taste of ketchup is different than the effect of coke/taste of a tomato.

ketchup is no tomato. crack is not coke.

It's why crack is cheaper than cocaine. Crack has a purity % like in breaking bad with Meth lol. It's probably like 75-90% or some shit, because people add shit to crack like baking soda, hence why it is cheaper. Crack isn't pure Cocaine.

What the fuck is a donna kebab?

I love how people are skirting around the very obvious analogy's

A tomato is cheaper than a bottle of ketchup but they are not the same, so what's your point?

every time you say something the same rules apply with what I fire back.

You know I'm right. Just because something goes into making something else doesn't make it the same because if they were the same there would be no need in making that other thing in the first place. I wouldn't mind if it was just price. then I would agree but the effects are different.

The effects. That's what it boils down to, whether you like it or not. a punch in the gut is not is not a knuckle sandwich just because you used your knuckles. The administered method is different as are the effects.

It's like saying kung fu and karate are the same thing because they require hands and feet.

Rugby and American football are the same because they require the same pig skin shaped ball

Netball and basket ball are the same thing because they require a hoop

Fencing and pirates sword fighting are the same because they both require swords.


THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

@Just C have you done both crack and cocaine to know the difference between effects? my friends tell me its basically the same except smoking obviously hits you faster & doesnt last as long.

I do oxys. Sometimes i sniff them, sometimes i smoke them. The effects are slightly different (not much) but its still the same chemical going into my body ----same with crack/cocaine.

Now, if you told me from personal experience that the effects are different then we wouldnt be arguing. Smoking crack/snortin coke either way its the same chemical being abused...#FACT

If you took a drug test and you've been smoking crack, your doctor wouldnt be able to tell if you been smoking crack or snorting coke.

BUT, If you ate a Big Mac without a burger your doctor would be able to tell (if he examined your stomach) that you didnt eat a burger. Same with ketchup/tomatoe.

@Tha Dope Man ,

AGREED. I wasn't trying to say you were wrong about anything except how the two substances are viewed differently as far as criminality.... which I now see I misinterpreted your post about what the government calls the substances as oppose to how they are regulated.

Just trying to put in my 2 cents.... Clearly this thread has a lot of miscommunication involved.

I definitely agree, as I posted previously, both have the same active ingredient that effects the same neurochemicals (dopamine receptors in various parts of the brain I believe? might want to double check... sometimes norepinephrine is involved, but that might be more for methamphetamine ).

NOW, I do agree with @Just C in his comment that the ingestion method changes the drug effects and physiological response, but I was more interested in how egregiously different these substances are treated as far as sentencing despite the fact that they are so related in sharing the active ingredient.

Luckily, Obama passed the 2010 Act (I posted wiki link), which I highly suggest reading about for one's own personal understanding of drug politics in America.

REHAB NOW! (don't punish users, help them)

-FREAK-

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This argument is funny, but I have to say that both Cocaine and Crack are often cut, and still described with those names despite the impurities.... but that is going into a discussion about how users refer to quality. With meth, there are words like 'glass' that describe the clearer, less cut products. With coke and crack its more of a free for all of descriptions and words like 'pure' 'raw' .... yadda yadda yadda....

Why are we talking about crack again?

How the fuck is crack and coke the same thing? That's like saying a joint is a cigarette because they both use rolling paper.

You're wasting your time with this angle, I've tried. People on a rap website and don't know the difference between coke and crack.

At least put some effort into it if you're after a rise.

Lmao, it's NOT a good point. It's a complete page out of my book; ridiculous analogies that are technically sound but complete bullshit :D

Yeah don't listen to Eth, Bnas. It's a perfectly sound analogy and he's just trying to troll and derail the thrad.

@Just C I've been around both, witnessed people & heard of my friends personal experiences using both, the FDA refers to both as 1 drug "Crack Cocaine", they don't separate the terms. Just because they are ingested differently & one contains an inactive ingredient does not make them two different drugs.

You prolly have not seen/tried/or have friends that have done it, therefore whatever you say is invalid & is only coming from your opinion.

Like i said before, I do Oxy 30s. Sometimes i smoke them off tinfoil and sometimes i snort them. The high/length of effects is somewhat different, but on a drug screen it'll come up the same. Just like with Crack & Coke.

Yes, I know Crack is cooked with baking soda with water on a stove. Yes, I know its a shorter high then snorting Coke. Yes, I know it's cheaper because there's not as much cocaine in the crack rock. So Idk What You're Trying To Prove....

You get the same wired like feeling from both. Both will come up the same on any drug screen.

So IF BOTH SHOW UP THE SAME ON A DRUG SCREEN, THEREFORE IT'S THE SAME DRUG.

~1~

They are not the same thing. And stop making assumptions.

You probably think dope is weed.

Dope is heroin, but in the 60s-70s people referred to weed as dope.

The only assumption im making is the fact that you never seen/done crack/coke before... am i right?

Just like idiots refer to coke as crack

And no. You're wrong.

idiots? it's a completely different generations, terms are obviously going to be different lol.

I never said id refer to coke as crack. If i see someone smoking crack Im not going to be like "how you feeling from that coke?"..

All im saying is it's the same drug, because it shows up the same on a drug screen, the FDA refers to both as 1 drug, & they have similar effects.

You Can't Argue That^