it's not really a good explanation at all, but it is all you can come up with. You just said that Jews aren't a race of people and Jews even hate being called a "race" if you ask them its offensive. and "blacks" are a race, a minority race in America. I just think you are blurring the lines of racism and you cant do that

@Indonesia , by not seeing my point, I think you are blurring my intentions for the use of the word racism. I'm referring to concentrated hate directed at a minority group of people.

Even if jews are not a race they are certainly a minority group of people with a shared culture.

If the word "racism" isnt the correct word then so be it, but what word would you like me to use?

I like how you can bog down an emotional point with an irrelevant, yet logical semantic argument.

I don't care if it isn't racism per say, but its something close to it.... If you can't see that point than you are being intolerant and unreceptive, which I can't change.

-FREAK-

This Is A New Low For You pULSe.
You Actually Put "Brain Power" Into This One Trying To Disagree With Everyone (History).

just dont try to get someone banned saying they are being racist, when race isnt even involved. Think if something else.

What are you talking about @Jason ... I'm not saying every scenario is gonna be the same given the history of lies. I'm saying it's possible, and probably more likely than not. So the fact that ya'll blindly embrace everything as truth is disheartenin B

All of that can be fabricated though. that's the shit ya'll are overlooking. Don't accept something because it SEEMS to have happened or sound true. Not everything is as it seems

If by "You'll never win an argument concerning my usage of grammar," you mean that I will never get you to admit you were wrong here in the forums, then yes, you are correct. That's why it's a good thing my responses have not been written with such a motive. My responses are for the other intelligent people in here to read and enjoy while we all laugh at your stupidity and douche-baggery. I'm not sure if you even noticed, but you've changed your original explanation of "therefore" from "as a result of" to "as a result." The word "of" is a key element, but I doubt you understand why. Also, I did not say the word "therefore" doesnt work in that context. I was merely showing you the message you were actually conveying with your usage of the word despite what you were attempting to say. I'm interested to see how you alter your comments again and try to present them as what was originally said. It should be interesting.

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[QUOTE=Godbody;966536]there·fore [thair-fawr, -fohr]
& There is no redundancy in saying PhDs and degrees.. Degrees entails every kind of degree there is pther than PhDs in that context. Associates, Bachelors, Masters, etc..... a PhD is a doctorate degree and the highest degree you can have. For the sake of not listing the lesser degrees, I said PhDs & degrees. And again, degrees entails every other degree that isn't a PhD
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The fact that the word "degrees" describes all "degrees" is quite obvious LMAOOO and is precisely the reason why connecting it to "PhD's"using only the word "and" is redundant, since you've already described all degrees. Why would you have to mention PhD's "for the sake of not listing the lesser degrees" when you've already essentially listed ALL of them in one word? If wanted to add PhD's to emphasize the fact that by "degrees" you meant "even the higher degrees" I guess I would understand that, but the problem here again rests on only one or two words. To do this you need to say something like, "degrees including PhD's" or if you had the opposite intention, to emphasize that the lower degrees are included, you could say, "PhD's as well as other degrees"
I'm sure that none of this makes sense to you, but to anyone who learned how to properly read and write as a child it makes perfect sense. I'm sorry to say that these concepts are often impossible to fully learn after adolescence, so depending on your age, you may be fucked.

@Indonesia , I never tried to get the guy banned. That's bullshit.

I reminded him that racism is against the sites policies, and that what he was saying is bordering on "racism" or biggotry (or whatever the fuck word you want to use to describe hate towards Jews as a cultural group) and is historic revisionism.

I think you don't take it personally because you didn't have the Holocaust effect your family in anyway.

I feel sorry for your inability to see the fact that denying the Holocaust as a historic event represents LetsBeef poorly just as much as racism.

Seriously anyone who denies the Holocaust is an ignorant biggot fuck. 'Nuff Said. Anything Else you have to say to me can be on a microphone in the form of rap, or you could fuck off.

Also, I am currently finishing my Masters Degree in Historic Preservation, so Im not some uneducated person just commenting on some subject matter I know nothing about.
SMH

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By the way there are WHOLE MUSEUMS DEVOTED TO THE HOLOCAUST. I SUGGEST YOU GO.

Fabricated my fucking ass. People like Godbody are just products of an internet generation that can find bullshit evidence to their crackpot theories online.

AGREE 100%. @FREAK MC , I'm a Senior History Major Too haha UMass Amherst!! Hate towards Jews Is RACISM. You gotta be retarded to argue with that. To be classified as a Jew can be religion, race, ethnicity, whatever. There's multiple classifications and different kinds of Jewish people. @Indonesia Is a fagget always tryin to come up with some smart ass comment, well this was a FAIL! and @Godbody is just lookin for attention. But also.. 1/4 of the population is retarded. There's Me, @Jason , @FREAK MC, @Godbody ... Case Closed.

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lol who the fuck is this clown mentioning people for the sake of mentioning them

And "as a result" and "as a result of"..... doesn't change the definition of the word....LMAO...fuck outta here if the strongest argument you have is that I added "of" when it shouldn't have been there. You were saying 'therefore' meant something else entirely. I deadass got the defintion 99% right the same way you see it on dictionary.com except for the word "of"...

& if you know degrees entailed all of the other degrees that exist outside of a PhD you wouldn't challenge what I said in a half-assed effort to be a smartass. You'll just get shut down post after post B

Finish high school then holla @ me

^^^ Dawg ya just pickin out tha little things in this argument & youre not lookin at tha big picture.. Do You Even Realize That You're Arguing The Holocaust Was Fabricated and Exaggerated??? You On Some Attention Whore Shit..

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"And "as a result" and "as a result of"..... doesn't change the definition of the word"
Yes, it certainly does. Those two phrases are fundamentally different.

"You were saying 'therefore' meant something else entirely."

Um... No. What I found particularily funny was that you obviously Googled the definition and still didn't get it right. When I called you on it, you no doubt Googled it again, maybe referring to a different source, and pasted a bunch of extra shit in here with it like pronunciation and synonyms. The list of synonyms, interestingly enough, included "consequently" which was my example in the comment you were responding to. Like I said, I'm sure none of this will make sense to you, and my sureness solidifies with each response from you. So, just for shits and giggles, let's try two sentences using the two phrases as substitutes for "therefore". I'll use the example you provided from your internet dictionary.
I think, as a result, I am.
I think, as a result of, I am.

I'll just let you realize you are wrong on your own, and then respond with more bullshit that doesn't reflect how you truly felt when reading this. It should be mildly entertaining.

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Like I said, that is precisely why the phrase is redundant. It is the very reason for my challenging you, not a reason why I should not have.

How the fuck are "as a result" and "as a result of" different?

You used two sentences that were

I think, as a result, I am
I think, as a reuslt of, I am

No fucking shit they won't work in that context. That's basic grammar B. Is that really the strongest counter-argument you can come up with to defend how you completely missed the mark on the definition of "therefore" and how I was only 1 word off? LOL

1 word off is better than getting the definition completely wrong.

I think, therefore I am.

I think, as a result of that, I am.
I think, as a result, I am.


You sleep, therefore you snore.

I snore as a result of me sleeping.
I sleep, as a result, I snore.

Your argument is that the sentence "I think, as a result of, I am" doesn't work. No fucking shit, that's basic grammar. lmao.


When you use words in their proper context your dumbass will cease to defend any incredulous (and losing) arguments that you may have. Go to sleep baby girl.

ironic a thread about the holocaust decsend's into grammar nazi'ism.

That's funny because I was smiling to myself during this back and forth thinking Holocaust thread/Grammar nazi.

Just C, OBVIOUSLY Pulse noticed that before you and didn't want to mention it.

I know everything before everybody
I know facts before they become facts
I know what you'll eat today before you eat it

It's the way of the Godbody baby

Pulse lost his virginity before his father.

Seriously? GTFO.

I could explain in more detail why you were wrong in previous posts, and why you are again wrong here, but i's losing its entertainment value. What I think would entertain me one last time is for you to explain how I "got the definition completely wrong." Also, check out the definition of the word "incredulous" before you use it again, because I actually feel like there is a chance, though extremely minute, that you will use it correctly after doing so.

I know exactly what incredulous means. That's why I put (and losing) arguments in parenthesis

Incredulous for the fact that, like you said, this whole debate has some kind of "entertainment value"...implying you're arguing simply for entertainment and not because you actually have a solid claim. So your arguments are incredulous because even YOU don't believe them, yet you keep going on after I break down your shitty argument post after post & explain to you how you're wrong.

Okay, the Holocaust didn't happen. Hitler was actually a pacifist, concentration camps were actually schools for people with ADD. Last but not least, the million dead people actually moved to Zimbabwe. Thank you, Pulse. It's all clear now.. /thread

@Jason , I always thought you had at least a LITTLE bit of intelligence in you..but obviously all common sense and logic escapes you in this post

According to Jason's delusional mind it's easier to kill 20 million people than it is to create a story about killin 20 million people

nigga there probably werent even 20 million jews in Europe, fuck outta here.

I don't know about you, but let's say I was an extreme zionist and a super pro-Jewish dude. How hard could it be to gather 50 like minded zionists and conspire to make an anti-German campaign?

"ya but my aunt said her famlee died she was there so i guess she wuz 1 of da 50 pplz right lolololol #illuminati"

No, chances are your relatives didn't have a clue as to what was going on but amidst all the chaos and disorder that was going on in Germany, they were in no position to argue the accusations made against Germany

Imagine telling this fabricated story to 50 like minded pro-Jewish/zionist people......they tell 10 people. Those 10 tell 10 more.. etc etc etc

Naturally the ones that hear the story last not only have an altered version, but probably a more exaggerated one. & Many Holocaust survivors are proven LIARS that exaggerate events and numbers to gain sympathizers.

6 Million Jews died in the Holocaust, not 20 million. And believe it or not, there ARE black people who believe the slavery story is made up. They believe they are indigenous Native Americans who happen to look like Africans and the whole story of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade was for the most part made up so that they wouldn't realize their entitlement to this land as the original owners.

I feel you on that @Jason

I'm not saying everything is a lie
But if you accept everything as the truth when do you know when you're being lied to?

I'm not sayin live a life where everything is a lie. I'm saying wisen up. Live a life where everything is questioned. Most of you just rock with what you're told

Stop doing that and start asking questions. Idk if you're american or canadian or what Jason, but the U.S. government has lied plenty of times. this whole NSA scandal that they swore was never going on & got exposed for should be an indicator & it shoulda lit some light bulbs

Surprised some of you are so nonchalant & carefree. You won't be nonchalant and carefree when you're getting fucked up the ass by a president you voted for, or a governor you voted for, or some kind of law you voted for. Not everything is as it seems

Obama promised people they'd all keep their healthcare plans when he ran for president and look what he's doing now. That clip of Obama saying we'll keep our shit and then him back peddlin should be viral by now. Google that bitch

What overwhelming evidence? Pictures of starving people? Accounts of survivors?

Let me put in perspective. There's overwhelming evidence that Criss Angel can walk on water

1) Its on video
2) People saw him do it

You and I both know he can't walk on water...Not everything is as it seems

1) The video was edited
2) The people were paid actors

You get the gist of what I'm saying? You just fail to believe that it can work on a large scale. Your lack of belief does not mean something is as improbable as you think it is. That's what Im tryna say. So keep questioning

You heard the Holocaust was true? Whats your source?
Question that source
Then question the source of that source
And the source of THAT source

Its how I connect dots, its how everybody thats a good researcher does research.

This Is The Most Ridiculous Statement I've Ever Heard In My Life.
There Are Thousands Of Photographs (From The Germans, Jews & The Allies), Documentation (Authorizing The "Final Solution", Orders To Kill Jews, Camp Role Call Sheets, Extermination Lists, Experimentation Documents & Artifacts, etc.), War Items (Weapons, Clothes, Nazi Memorabilia, Uniforms, German Propaganda, Jewish Clothing, Items Left In The Ghettos) Eye Witness Accounts (Both Jewish & German), Human Remains From The Furnaces, Camps, Bunks, Trains, etc., The Actual Concentration Camps Themselves (If They Weren't Burned Down Or Made Into A Memorial, Tons Of Pellets Of Zyklon-B, Cart Loads Of Ammunition, Some Videos, etc. etc. etc.

The Holocaust Is The Most Documented Tragedy And Event In Human History.

Btw: If You Want To Blame The Government For Censoring The Holocaust, It Wasn't On U.S. Soil Therefore There Was Nothing To Cover Up, The United States Can't Just Make Up History When It Involves Roughly 40 Nations.

Thank you, well put, @Student .

Photographs can be fabricated
How hard is it to get 1,000 pairs of shoes and say they belonged to 1,000 dead jews?
The actual concentration camps prove that the camps existed, not what went on

& I'd like to see the "Final Solution" and "Order to Kill the Jews"... Regardless, documents can be fabricated so that doesn't mean shit

I want indisputable evidence...Everything you're presenting me with can be fabricated.

LMMAO.. by your logic than nothing is truth, for TRUTH IS ONLY RELAVENT TO THE BELIEVER... hell why dont we go a step further.. we were all created by aliens, there was no such thing as evolution, life was planted on earth.. and we dont need to prove it, because theres nothing that 'disproves' it either.. we werent there , so who are we to say it did or didnt happen...? and jfk didnt get shot, he pulled a makaveli... shii,, bottled water was created by the government to make more money.. while draining one of our natural endangered lakes...

I figured you would ignore my request for an explanation.
Not believing my own arguments wouldn't make the arguments themselves incredulous, it would make me incredulous. That's just some more of the simple language concepts I was talking about earlier. It's shit you learn as a child. You will never learn why you are wrong. Have fun pretending you're that dude, though. Part of me envies you for your ability to twist all arguments and criticism to fit into your dilluded fantasy that you are effectively stating solid points. I'm watching a show called "Eastbound and Down," I don't know if you've ever seen it, but you remind me a lot of the main character, Kenny Powers. Good luck to you, sir.

I did Nazi that coming

Purpose Of This Thread? = Pulse can't afford a history book

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Sure, a photo can be fabricated when the basic elements of editing a picture and/or altering it any way was not possible(back then). Look bro, I don't know why youre asking for proof, it HAPPENED, ok? People Died, we all know that, The gas chambers were used for torture/killing purposes. No point in asking what went on inside? does it?

[/COLOR]nigga you plain dumb

Thats like saying Christians are a race of people

Do you see how that doesnt make ANY SENSE at all?

smh.. Im not touchin this one..

@Indonesia , its the idea that we are trying to communicate, so stop picking at the words semantically. I believe what I was getting at, along with @The Dope Man , was that there doesn't seem to be an obvious word to describe hate towards Jews as a group of people.

If we went ahead and agreed with you that "racism" is not the right word due to Jews not being a race, than what word would you suggest?

I asked this question previously, but you did not answer. I guess I'm confused, because it seems that everybody understands what I am trying to get across, while you are picking on my use of one word versus another.

I am asking you to be part of the conversation as oppose to blatantly saying you are wrong… I'd like to think that I am trying to show you some respect in return for some.

-FREAK-

No Homo But pULSe's Dick Is Probably Hard From Seeing How Far This Thread Got

You think I give a fuck about my letsbeef threads Student

The point is to get ya'll to think

& @Chopsteady that's a cool story, here's a cup to catch your tears bro. Not everyone is as dumb as you, pay homage.

Probably Not But You Can't Say You Don't Care What The Internet Says About You (Twitter?).

I barely use Twitter & my personal account only has a few thousand followers.. like 5-6k

The accounts I conduct business on have 100,000+ ... That should tell you all you need to know. If I really cared about what people think of me or my popularity, my personal page would be the one with 100,000+ and not a measly 5-6k...

And nowhere in my accounts with 100k+ do I associate them with my main page...& I only got 5-6k followers because I switched my main account MONTHS ago to a smaller page...Because attention & popularity is exactly what I DIDN'T want

"Niggas after fame, I just have to laugh. Niggas after fame, I'm after cash" - Wiz