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Krhyme Killz 10-10-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason (Post 957841)
Just C keepin it real as fuck!!

i feel that, as long as its not causing you or your family any real harm i can understand why you would give people a pass on certain crimes / immoral actions.. its just easier to live that way
but also gotta consider the fact that youre still an accessory to the crime which is a big deal. in alot of situations that isnt provable so it isnt a big deal .. but sometimes it also is
like when youre not snitchin on your crackhead neighbor but they find the same coke hes selling on your dining room table ... youre goin down for a drug charge .. and the fact that you knew about his OP so you gotta be careful of that

sometimes good people are put in unfortunate circumstances

that accessory part is a REAL good point.

a quick story...

my ex girlfriend, before i met her, used to live across the hall from from a criminal. drugs, violence...whatever. he saw her see him beat a woman up, and she called the police. he was booked and charged. days later, a molotov cocktail gets thrown through my ex-girlfriend window...this is is 100% true shit...and believe it or not..it happens FREQUENTLY in bmore...in fact bmore is where the STOP SNITCHING campaign began.

that being said, i would hope that the fear of retaliation wouldnt deter me from letting my conscience guide me...but in alot of urban areas..there's an unspoken code to shit.

when i used to be on my porch smoking weed...if kids were outside playing..i would ash out. why? because if my fucking kids outside playing, you better ash out too. If you dont...i'm not calling the cops...i'll just let you know not to do that around my kids. if you dont listen..then it'd be ME that enforces it. it sounds barbaric and shit, but in alot of communities, people collectively police themselves.

J u s T C 10-10-2013 04:05 PM

I don't think ya Ex snitched. At least going from your post she didn't. She was selflessly looking out for her fellow woman.

Also people who get caught need to look at themselves rather than whoever phoned the police more often.

If I'm selling drugs and my neighbours phoning the police on me. Then I obviously aint do enough to keep it low key.

This is why I always go by the rule that "If it doesn't benefit me then you don't need to know" it's just another set of ears and eyes and another mouth to blab.

Krhyme Killz 10-10-2013 04:13 PM

@ Jason....

its crazy because everything you are saying is 100% right man, but (and i'm not necessarily speaking for me) MOST people probably wouldnt call the police seeing that kid walk out with bruises. in fact...that's why scumbags get a way with shit like that. involving kids in the scenarios changes things only because we as a society MUST protect the kids..

in the same scenario, if a grown woman walked out with bruises...would you still cal the cops? (and no...they arent from some s&m shit lol)

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Originally Posted by Just C (Post 957848)
I don't think ya Ex snitched. At least going from your post she didn't. She was selflessly looking out for her fellow woman.

Also people who get caught need to look at themselves rather than whoever phoned the police more often.

If I'm selling drugs and my neighbours phoning the police on me. Then I obviously aint do enough to keep it low key.

This is why I always go by the rule that "If it doesn't benefit me then you don't need to know" it's just another set of ears and eyes and another mouth to blab.

what she did do was make a bad decision. she lived alone and quite honestly needed to be MORE selfish.

there's a story about a dude in the Bronx that stepped in when a man was beating his gf in the subway. the dude pulled out a gun and shot him. now this kid is in a wheelchair for the rest of his life, and that bitch is probably STILL with that dude, getting her ass whooped daily.

what did that kid's efforts get him but in a wheelchair?

J u s T C 10-10-2013 04:16 PM

I'm not debating whether or not her decision was wise or a little foolish. I think we're getting away from the subject at hand.

RULE 10-10-2013 04:19 PM

Im too real to squeal.

1/

Krhyme Killz 10-10-2013 04:24 PM

lol at shooting the paperboy in the face

yeah...i think the OP situation is really a gut feeling...

but as far as the woman beating situation...confident women can get beat too lol...
idk...with women getting beat....i feel like it'd take alot for me to step in. so many times these women are just dysfunctional and you are just risking your health helping them. i will say if it got out of hand like the woman was being beat senseless i'd step in

J u s T C 10-10-2013 04:45 PM

Tbh you're just asking for trouble the moment you step in between a fighting couple. It's really not un common for both of them to flip on you. lol

Krhyme Killz 10-10-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason (Post 957867)
KK lemme run this by you

lets cycle back to the George Zimmerman situation.
This is just my personal experience talking, but alot of the guys I know in real life who were very pro-Treyvon are the same guys that have "STOP SNITCHING" in their facebook profile pictures and shit like that. These same guys are the guys that are hoping for witness after witness to testify against Zimmerman. tell me how thats different from snitching? snitching is just a term used to describe someone who is getting someone else in trouble with the law. the same "DONT SNITCH" guys are the same guys wanting Zimmerman behind bars, how is that done?? thats done by people who are "SNITCHING" on him in court.
alot of these guys are just losers who use this snitching campaign as a way to seem tough, when in reality everyone does it for their own needs. if you truly believe in that life then you wouldnt be advocating for people testifying against Zimmerman, cus that is by definition "snitching".

what happened after he was acquitted? nothing.
cus everyone is all talk man, even the people who are "anti-snitch" rely on the justice system. if they were legit and believed in this "no snitching" thing then zimmerman would be dead already.

the reality is when youre a criminal its you VS the law
and if you lose that battle and you find yourself in a cell then you have no one to blame but yourself for losing that battle


true shit...

i actually kinda followed this case...so the main witness....Trayvonn's friend...she did damn near everything she could to AVOID being a witness for the very reason you see those people with the 'stop snitching' shit. she didnt want to be a part of it...even as a friend..she would rather play the sidelines.

i think alot of the outrage surrounding this particular case came from the lack of police investigation, and the incapacity of the local judicial system to adjudicate this situation with any effectiveness...i mean it took Sharpton and those dudes to even get charges filed. Not to mention the evidence was nearly entirely circumstantial, so there wasnt really that 'eye witness' that saw how everything unfolded.

so i think that the 'anti snitch' folks get frustrated because whether you rely or believe in the system or not..it should still work. its like taxes...i hate taxes...and if i chose not to pay them...i would still be pissed if someone who did pay them wasnt getting the services that the taxes are used to pay for them. but its even worse when not only does that system NOT work for some..it OVERLY works for others...meaning that some parts of the population are OVER searched, OVER charged, and OVER sentenced.

in the end, no, there wasnt riots, but i there were some peaceful sit ins and a little bit of political momentum...

plus anyone threatening to riot over Trayvon just doesnt get it anyway..and are likely the same kids talking about GTA 5 causing 9/11 because the illuminati have time machines n shit lol

stricc 10-10-2013 05:33 PM

i pretty much feel tha same way kryhme feels, i fuckin hate the police...with that said i'm a huge believer in shuttin tha fuck up when it doesn't concern you...sad thing is, i kinda know im desensitized to alot of shit(not sayin it makes it right)...as far as ya neighbors shit endin up in your house...i live in an apartment complex infested wit crackheads and streetwalkers and have lived in way worse environments....last thing im worried about is catchin a case for one of my neighbors issues,real shit. you'd have to be pretty stupid or a peon to let somebody else shit be in your possesion

Obey 10-10-2013 05:40 PM

Why the fuck would you want that on your conscience for a ''neighbor''.. Damn right I'm calling, dude's probably a psycho.

Krhyme Killz 10-10-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Obey (Post 957889)
Why the fuck would you want that on your conscience for a ''neighbor''.. Damn right I'm calling, dude's probably a psycho.

why would witnessing something be on your conscience?

Obey 10-10-2013 05:45 PM

@Krhyme Killz Because that person could have kids, or that person could be married. When it pops up on the news that this person's gone missing, it'll hit you.

Fidel Z 10-10-2013 05:52 PM

HELL NAW! I Wouldn't snitch, You seen disturbia? Nigga im good, NONE OF MY MOTHERFUCKING BUSINESS. Shit, if i got shot and my neighbour got involved and gets killed if i see him in heaven im slapping the shit out of him for being stupid lol, Fuck outta here, I got enough problems I dont need the beef, FUCK MY NEIGHBOURS I WISH A NIGGA WOULD SHOOT THESE NIGGAS.

Krhyme Killz 10-10-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Obey (Post 957896)
@Krhyme Killz Because that person could have kids, or that person could be married. When it pops up on the news that this person's gone missing, it'll hit you.

idk yo....he might've deserved that shit...

in fact..

there could be ANY variety of things that happened

Obey 10-10-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Krhyme Killz (Post 957902)
idk yo....he might've deserved that shit...

in fact..

there could be ANY variety of things that happened

I feel if he did it for the right reason, he'd call the cops himself.

Krhyme Killz 10-10-2013 06:09 PM

where you from Obey?

Hubert Cumberdale 10-10-2013 06:11 PM

I'd EASILY hit up the police if someone shot my neighbours now. I know neither neighbour is into drugs, and I'm not turning anyone in as I wouldn't specifically know,

The concept of snitching is ridiculous. Snitching is like if there's a scheduled bare knuckle fight and someone hits up the cops. Not when an innocent person gets murdered.

Krhyme Killz 10-10-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EtH (Post 957922)
I'd EASILY hit up the police if someone shot my neighbours now. I know neither neighbour is into drugs, and I'm not turning anyone in as I wouldn't specifically know,

The concept of snitching is ridiculous. Snitching is like if there's a scheduled bare knuckle fight and someone hits up the cops. Not when an innocent person gets murdered.

who said anything about innocence?

Obey 10-10-2013 06:13 PM

@Krhyme Killz Philly

Krhyme Killz 10-10-2013 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Obey (Post 957928)
@Krhyme Killz Philly

word...i be seeing you post good shit on here. and thats a good point about them calling the cops..

BUT

being from Philly you GOTTA know there can be a variety of 'good' reasons someone gets clapped

Obey 10-10-2013 06:19 PM

@Krhyme Killz Yeah, I mean.. there can be a shit load of reasons. But I feel, why put my freedom on the line by not calling? And I mean, not like the neighbors going to know who's calling if the dude didn't see you. Unless I'm close w/ the dude, then maybe I could try and convince him to do it himself. I don't know, I just don't think I could watch a life be taken without caring.

Krhyme Killz 10-10-2013 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Obey (Post 957932)
@Krhyme Killz Yeah, I mean.. there can be a shit load of reasons. But I feel, why put my freedom on the line by not calling? And I mean, not like the neighbors going to know who's calling if the dude didn't see you. Unless I'm close w/ the dude, then maybe I could try and convince him to do it himself. I don't know, I just don't think I could watch a life be taken without caring.

unless the police saw me see it...i'm playing stupid all day

Obey 10-10-2013 06:25 PM

I'm sticking to GTA, that way if I murder someone, I can just hit an alley and dip slow for a min or 2.

Krhyme Killz 10-10-2013 06:25 PM

...shit works in real life too lol

Spooky Deep 10-10-2013 06:28 PM

lol @ that

Hubert Cumberdale 10-10-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Krhyme Killz (Post 957925)
who said anything about innocence?

You said my neighbours, my neighbours are innocent.

These days, dude's still involved in crime and shit are fucking retards. If a guy is over 20 years old and is still breaking the law, he deserves everything he gets for being such a fucknugget.

My old estate got burgled like 10 times in one month. If I'd seen the dude on night one, I might have prevented the other 9, and potentially my own had it been the case.

Krhyme Killz 10-10-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EtH (Post 957960)
You said my neighbours, my neighbours are innocent.

These days, dude's still involved in crime and shit are fucking retards. If a guy is over 20 years old and is still breaking the law, he deserves everything he gets for being such a fucknugget.

My old estate got burgled like 10 times in one month. If I'd seen the dude on night one, I might have prevented the other 9, and potentially my own had it been the case.

lol....re-read the OP homie

Hubert Cumberdale 10-10-2013 06:50 PM

If some cunt got laid out in front of me, I'd give a description of the guy who did it, no problem. I'm not trying to be some dickhead hood. I did my stupid shit when I was a teenager and now I'm old enough to see that people involved in drugs or whatever are cunts.

Louie Dawgs 10-10-2013 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Krhyme Killz (Post 957777)
If you saw your next door neighbor shoot someone, but he didnt see you...would you turn them in?

no reward money.
and you dont know them.

I think killing is fundamentally wrong and violates the human moral code on it's most base levels.

That said, I probably wouldn't call the cops. (Obviously it depends on the situation) Here's why.

While I think that killing is wrong, there are many reasons why killing could be acceptable. The guy is strapped with dynamite. The guy kills and cannibalizes others. The guy has the neighbors daughter in a rape dungeon somewhere.


There is a chance that the neighbor is doing something justified and right.

That said, if I call in the murder, take the stand and tell the truth?? That shit is probably 100% open and shut life in prison (if not more) no questions asked. Did he do it for a good reason?? A bad reason?? Who the fuck knows, the law is pretty explicit on killing somebody.

Calling the cops in this situation is pretty much the equivalent of locking him up and throwing away the key. I don't think I'd be ready to do that to another man without first knowing whats up.

AfterThought 10-11-2013 02:18 AM

i think it comes down to how you was raised to deal with that typa shit

Phil Banks 10-11-2013 05:59 AM

i consider snitching more along the lines of testifying an i would never... unless its a child raper or something... or some old fuck murdering lil girls it aint rly my buisiness

Hubert Cumberdale 10-11-2013 06:10 AM

Yeah after reading Louie and Phil, I agree. Not a hope would I take the stands. I was meaning more of a statement and description that a testimony.

Yung_Cypha_King 10-11-2013 06:51 AM

I read this whole thread and everybody had good points & I'm just gonna say it like this there is a lot of hatred towards the cops shit I HATE seeing them cause around where I am it just feels like they have too much power and I dislike that shit that being said people die EVERYDAY & I'm talking hood niggas the ones that say they are quote on quote "about this street life" and you know what happens the same people that we're around them saying "Snitches get stitches" and ect. appeal to the public asking anyone who knows what may have happened to come forward..... (How Ironic) So basically what I'm saying is everyone hates the police but they are the first people you think to call when that shit hits close to home and your begging for people to come forward It's selfish as fuck but that's just human nature nobody cares till they are effected personally...... So going back to if I'd call the cops on my neighbor shit I'm not sure since I'm not in that position but I'd pray if it was me that was murdered Justice would be served shit look at Trayvon... ~1~

Louie Dawgs 10-11-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Krhyme Killz (Post 957842)
word...now...that being said....its not a 'crack house'...if it was...that'd be different. i mean i likely wouldnt call the cops, but there would be a problem.

When I was a kid there was a crack house up the street.

One of my neighbors called the cops on them. I'm not saying I would have done it, but truth be told I'm happy it happened. I live like a block from an elementary school yo.

Godbody 10-11-2013 09:06 AM

lol Krhyme tryna act hard cuz he's from B-more

But you couldn't B more wrong

I'll put it like this

If my neighbor shot someone and both of them were involved in gang related/drug related shit I wouldn't give 2 fucks

If my neighbor shot an innocent person then obviously that neighbor cannot function properly in society & I think a phone call to the cops is necessary

Don't gimme that "where I'm from we mind our own" bs cuz I grew up in Paterson NJ in the 90's...not the worst of the worst hoods but you'll fuck around and go Trick or Treatin on Halloween as a kid and see shell casings all over the ground. Needles all over the parks, people catchin HIV from running barefoot smh

That dont snitch mentality is derived from savages with monkey brains...its some straight up sucker shit embedded into the brains of ppl as an excuse for violence to continue because people turn the other cheek

I thought you were like 30 KK...thought you would understand that more than a 21 yr old B

Godbody 10-11-2013 10:20 AM

what do you mean how ignorant

you probably grew up in a town lookin like somethin out of a kids coloring book

the reality of my situation growing up was that kids really were running around barefoot in parks and stepping on needles. i DID see shell casings on the ground as a child going trick or treating. Or are you under the impression that i pull this shit out of thin air for the fuck of it when obviously my intent isnt to troll

btw pay homage

Godbody 10-11-2013 10:29 AM

lol where do you get this information from

a dirty needle is a dirty needle. if someone with HIV injected drugs in their bloodstream the virus touched the needle...if the needle is un sanitized and it permeates the skin of a healthy individual, they too can get HIV

chances of getting HIV from a dirty needle are something like 1 in 300...not likely right? but it's more likely that you & a friend both step on a dirty needle and get HIV than it is for either of you to win the lotto...so cut that nonsense out

now....what if you're running around barefoot in a park with 100 dirty needles? your chances of contracting HIV increase

nothing ignorant at all about the truth

Godbody 10-11-2013 10:37 AM

You're quoting a bullshit paragraph that I could've Googled and posted myself in 2 minutes

where's the statistic about winning the lottery being more likely than getting HIV from a dirty needle

& if you had any reading comprehension skills you would comprehend what you just posted and realize that a 90-99% reduction of infectious virus doesn't equate to 99.9-100%

90% "within several hours"

implying that an HIV infected heroin addict can shoot up and leave the needle at the park. an hour later someone can step on it with a 10% chance of getting the virus

10% out of 100% = 1/10 > the probably of winning the lottery

1% chance out of 100% = 1/100 > the probability of winning the lottery

0.01% chance out of 100% = 1/10000 > the probability of winning the lottery

go back to sleep and come back with something logical and sensible B. dont Google your way out of it either

Godbody 10-11-2013 10:42 AM

I still need proof that I have a higher chance of winning the lottery

otherwise I'll just run around barefoot in a pit of needles crying tears of joy because I have the winning lotto ticket

Krhyme Killz 10-11-2013 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason (Post 958199)
oh nowhere important just the Centre for Disease Control and Prevention

"studies have shown that drying of even these high concentrations of HIV reduces the amount of infectious virus by 90 to 99 percent within several hours. Since the HIV concentrations used in laboratory studies are much higher than those actually found in blood or other specimens, drying of HIV-infected human blood or other body fluids reduces the theoretical risk of environmental transmission to that which has been observed–essentially zero."

idiot

sonnnnnnned.


btw @Pulse....i've been to Patterson a few times...lmfao....clown ass nigga


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