what we need to do is get other legends from other sites to come here, i know of alot, the only thing is most of us (yes i say us because im a legend) dont have the motivation to actually sit and think of a dope verse, then when you come to a new site with the legend swag you have w/ out knowing anyone plus the element of non-motivation and rustyness, peeps tend to hate on you, like "who the fuck does this guy think he is", im gonna talk to some dudes from goldmic and a few from six to see if they wanta come over, just embrace them and their attitudes/ ego's tho and not push them to being non-motivated, because truth of the matter is, everyone that has established themselves weath'r it be text or audio establishes some sort of ego, on another note we need to open up a legit rap school for all of the rooks that dont know the first thing to setting up a punch,

im gonna compile a list of msn's or what not, and gather a few vets that are actually concerned with elevation on the site, my old site died due to the lack of reinvention and skill level, just a bunch of vets that didnt need to accomplish anything else and just sat around making fun of the rookies ( im to blame for this aswell) , but im starting to get motivated again and the dopeness is sure to follow.

if theres anyone that consider's themselves knowledgable of how battling go's, doesnt have to be a quote on quote vet, get at me, because that's the main reason i'm here, to help kids improve, and not see this site die like all the rest..

if anyone wants to get down with this rap school/ msn thing let me know, ill be posting a thread later

I dont think the hotlist looks bad at all right now.....Not juss sayin that cuz Im onit but Rules On...UA...Mayneak...Huey J(Wit Me)....a few more dope textcees....But overall I feel where Eth Is comin from on this....Its became juss like the world...man 4 man....Competition has strapped down and no1 wants to fuck wit ne1 but themselves which n a way is understandable cuz its so competitive....But....when only 1 man is makin it that dudes gonna get old....Fuck Idk Juss my 2 cents for right now....

FAME n MYST there too fam!!! and some unknowns cant remember they names lol

to be honest...

i kinda have a problem with this whole "active vets make people improve" theory. Text battling is not rocket science for real...it takes some practice at first, but once you have the general concept down, its a matter of being creative and thinking. If the argument is that the site isnt as fun due to a lack of competitiion, i can see that, but the talent level doesnt really correlate to the amount of vets on here at any given time to me.

and there will be new vets and legends..in my time here, i've seen remarK and Jason move from vet to Legend and i can forsee the same for some other cats...

this argument/observation always comes about because perspective can only be gained in retrospect. you cant look at the site and say, "shit is whack"...it takes a wider view to see it, and you can really only look at the past and not the present in regards to that.

its getting to the point where its time to let Daddio and Illy and them just go yo...i mean dont observe it...fucking be it...be yourself, but be great in your own right

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^^ see thats where your wrong, about noone wanting to fuck with anyone because its so competetive, this thread is about lack of competition, so competitiveness is NOT the reason for this mishap. LACK of competitiveness is the reason, which louie stated previously, the reason that all of or most of the legends dont feel the need to compete, lets take U.A for example, i hear a whole bunch of bullshit about how dude has fallen off and that he isnt the same dude, well thats not because he sucks now, he in truth still has that dopeness in em, just the lack of motivation/competition henders his ability's because he see's no need to compete or even try, which i feel him on because im in the same boat.

if you feel the competition then more than likely you are still elevating, which is a good thing, and competion is what drives peeps to do better and continue doin what they do

Lol my bad My Bad....Remarks on there too...O_G...2FUEL...lol...bet theh otlist is perfectly fine right now....look how it WAS before...had more noobs then mid heavys n vets.....hahahahaha

i think weight divisions would help...

i feel you on some of this, but lets be realistic, there arnt enuff dope cats to just say forget about the legends and say let them go, this is when the site go's down hill, you always want to keep the heart of things alive, because without a heart, then theres no beat for an emcee to ride too, not everyone on here is as talented as you and rule/ jason that can elevate at that rate, just the very presence of a legend posting in the threads or battling for that matter brings a sense of " damn, i wanta be just like jason, or for the rooks, damnn i wanta be just like rule" rule didnt become a grandchampion because of the help of mediocre cats, he became one due to the help from other vets and them taking him under his wing, which is why he elevated so fast.

so saying that vets/legends arnt need'd is rediculous, mainly because without them elevation is not expedited to its full potential. we need more vets to take more rooks that have potential under their wings, shit would move alot swifter.

You have a point...a good one....what im sayin is why does UA or ne1 wanna fuck wit ne1 else when they reach there peak knowin they could stay at top and not let ne1 climb up the latter....man 4 man again....that relates to how the world is......the lack of competition is not true...its like high-school.....If you dont have a good name or ur a new kid u aint makin the team.....even tho u could possibly be more athletic then any other....Thas how it usually goes but sum get by with 'makin the cut' BUT....KRyhme has a point also its not like it takes science to do it juss creativity but it does take work and lots of it....i dont want help ill do it my own....i would take more sefl-pride if I do....

i feel you, fam...BUT lol...i never said to let the concept of a legend go...but let those specific cats go...i aint seen the nigga Illy on in FOREVER...and remarK is on this bitch everyday...but until Illy is let go...remarK can never fill them shoes..feel me?