Originally Posted by Godbody (Post 1220518)

Unfortunately, these days I rate battles by mentally giving out 5's and 6's and leaving the site disappointed.

Only a handful of people get busy enough to earn 8's and 9's regularly, maybe an occasional 10.

I've seen cases where the shittiest battlers rate top tier battlers a 6 or 7..& expect nothing less than a 7 on their shit or its a hate vote.

Originally Posted by Phroxen (Post 1220505)

Allowing the uploading of vocals is usually a good thing. Let's say someone has a garbage ass mic... they can add certain filters and maybe condense the highs and lows so that it sounds like a better mic. If they're skilled enough to do that and make their audio sound better, I think we all win in that scenario.

One can also layer vocals for chorus/reverb or to accent certain phrases or punches.. this can be seen as either a good or a bad thing. Similarly, one can straight up add reverb to the track to create echo effects, as I've seen in audio battles. Some like this, others don't.

Uploading also allows you to "clean up" your verse in different ways. One instance would be to omit any sounds of taking a breath.. while this wouldn't necessarily fall into the cheating category, it could definitely make the verse sound artificial. I haven't see it done on this site yet, though. Along these lines is punching in, which goes past just omitting breathing between bars but could cause them to overlap entirely. It definitely takes away from the performance aspect of an audio battle and makes me consider whether or not a battler has the capacity to spit the shit they wrote confidently and accurately. However, if someone were to punch in, but did it damn near flawlessly, there would be a lot of finger pointing as to whether or not the person did it or not which would create some chaos.

I'd think the only way to get rid of all of this and make it pure "one take" vs "one take" is to get rid of uploading vocals, but that gets rid of a lot of other beneficial tools at the same time and could lessen the quality of battles that we hear. If you have a trash ass mic, but are able to tweak a few things with your audio to make it sound cleaner so I can hear it better to vote then by all means do it. But to allow uploading and at the same time, with regards to editing, say "_____ is prohibited but _____ is allowed" is walking a fine line.

Originally Posted by Student (Post 1220520)

Agree w/ uploading verses, especially in a Tournament battle with more at stake, you'd ideally want to be able to put out your best "take", if it's a complete freestyle or live battle then it's different but definitely should be left for written battles.


Also @ OP, depends on the battle but I try to write a small break down to why I voted the way I did, agree w/ Godbody about people getting 6's & 7's they don't deserve, I'm hesitant to hand out 8's+ BUT I also try to account for the times, some 8's now wouldn't fly in 2007 but that was 15 years ago and the talent overall as grown too, some people were getting pure 9's & 10's back then too who didn't deserve them either.

Originally Posted by Rowdy (Post 1220533)

Well it also doesn't help when dudes are voting based on Punch count. Like if I have more punches I won? Wtf. What about creativity, performance, delivery, etc?

Some battlers are punchers, some battlers are different type. Some just like talking real shit to a person. But according to LB, you gotta have the same style or it's a no no

Originally Posted by Phroxen (Post 1220536)

That's more than facts. I've tweaked the way I write just to please the crowd with more punches... then they say, "well, Phroxen had non stop punches and they were dope but there were just too many punches back to back to back..." Like motherfuckers, make up your mind.