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Punk 09-08-2019 12:23 PM

Dude.... face it, you need help. Mods would’ve already been on this instead of reranking every battle.

People have to watch the battle end before their report is even looked at.

Erupt da Monsta 09-08-2019 12:53 PM

I’m down to mod if this comes back just get at me

X 09-08-2019 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punk (Post 1177172)
Dude.... face it, you need help. Mods would’ve already been on this instead of reranking every battle.

People have to watch the battle end before their report is even looked at.

I'm working on bringing back the mod program, I proposed an idea to make it more fair in another thread: https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/show...56#post1177056

Let me restate the ideas here to get your feedback:

1) In the new moderator system to make decisions more fair: individual moderators can propose to delete battles & votes, but another moderator has to agree with their decision. That way it's not an individual making a broad decision, but a consensus. Thoughts on this?

2) This opens up the discussion around bringing back moderators - if that were to happen I'd like to hear new ideas for how moderators could be fairly selected for the role. Maybe a community voting process?

Punk 09-08-2019 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X (Post 1177175)
I'm working on bringing back the mod program, I proposed an idea to make it more fair in another thread: https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/show...56#post1177056

Let me restate the ideas here to get your feedback:

1) In the new moderator system to make decisions more fair: individual moderators can propose to delete battles & votes, but another moderator has to agree with their decision. That way it's not an individual making a broad decision, but a consensus. Thoughts on this?

2) This opens up the discussion around bringing back moderators - if that were to happen I'd like to hear new ideas for how moderators could be fairly selected for the role. Maybe a community voting process?

This is what the hell im talking about. Definitely a community vote system + yes a mod request to delete battle or vote and another mod confirms/handles it. That would be perfect.

Erupt da Monsta 09-08-2019 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X (Post 1177175)
I'm working on bringing back the mod program, I proposed an idea to make it more fair in another thread: https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/show...56#post1177056

Let me restate the ideas here to get your feedback:

1) In the new moderator system to make decisions more fair: individual moderators can propose to delete battles & votes, but another moderator has to agree with their decision. That way it's not an individual making a broad decision, but a consensus. Thoughts on this?

2) This opens up the discussion around bringing back moderators - if that were to happen I'd like to hear new ideas for how moderators could be fairly selected for the role. Maybe a community voting process?

All decisions should have been done that way from the jump, but yeah def would need the approval of another mod.

Also what’s the consensus on how high mod vote power should be? Keep it the same or what? Was this apart of the issue and or reason they were , they meaning mods were removed ?

Óðinn 09-08-2019 06:23 PM

If I remember correctly; Mods had a VP of 6. The FVC has a VP of 4 and then members had a VP of 2 ( though some had 1 and many had 0 due to the voting etc)

As for the joint decision of battles being modded is certainly a good look.

Punk 09-08-2019 06:32 PM

Mods having 6 VP is just flat out ridiculous. Because the guys a mod, he’s considered the best voter on the site? What makes anyone’s vote more special than someone else’s in a sport based on preferences????

Saii 09-08-2019 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X (Post 1177175)
I'm working on bringing back the mod program, I proposed an idea to make it more fair in another thread: https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/show...56#post1177056

Let me restate the ideas here to get your feedback:

1) In the new moderator system to make decisions more fair: individual moderators can propose to delete battles & votes, but another moderator has to agree with their decision. That way it's not an individual making a broad decision, but a consensus. Thoughts on this?

2) This opens up the discussion around bringing back moderators - if that were to happen I'd like to hear new ideas for how moderators could be fairly selected for the role. Maybe a community voting process?

I love both of these ideas. I hope they come to fruition. Keep up the good work @X.

Brayne Ded 09-08-2019 07:25 PM

Too little, too late. All the passionate dudes are gone. This battle here is a good representation of the current state of the site:

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=513672

The decent battles are too few and far between to really necessitate another team of mods. Y'all always worried about the wrong shit. Voting is only pertinent if there are battles worth voting on. Battles are taking weeks to close (I have one almost 2 days past the time it was supposed to close.) Nobody cares about voting anymore. There isn't a reason to. I'd say over half the battle feed is bullshit battles with bullshit votes. There's no excitement left. No official tournaments. No good battles. There isn't much going on nowadays, in terms of skill. How is bringing back mods voted in going to help? Deleting 1 of the 2 votes a battles gets in 5 days and making it take 11 days to close? Reranking battles that did close due to bullshit votes? What if all 3 votes are wack? I just don't think this is a solution to anything right now. The original decision to end mods really put a dent in things and creating new ones isn't going to fill the void created by alienating the previous staff and members.

Plus, with voting now lacking any incentive, I suppose it will be up to the "new, Democratic Mods" to vote on battles like that one I posted the link of? God speed to whoever steps up to that plate ... You'll be deleting a ton of shit.

joan of arc 09-08-2019 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punk (Post 1177180)
Mods having 6 VP is just flat out ridiculous. Because the guys a mod, he’s considered the best voter on the site? What makes anyone’s vote more special than someone else’s in a sport based on preferences????

fvc and staff have 4 vp.

everyone else currently has 2.

i think staff shouldn't gain higher vp just for being staff, but staff could also be in the FVC if they are good enough at voting to belong there.


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