The universe didn't "create" us. We are the product of probabilistic molecular, and atomic structure. Nothing else.

we ARE the Universe. a part of it. And that's a fact, because if we didn't come from the 'universe', we couldn't exist.

imagine we were all ice cubes and we had this discussion. I'd be saying we came from water...which you can't dispute because you need water to create ice

im not gonna dive into an intellectual debate pulling diagrams and terms out of my ass trying to sound intelligent by hittin ya'll with Harvard professor vernacular. I just know what I know because I'm an indigo child

That doesn't equate to our being created by the universe. The act of creation implies intelligent thought. It simply means that our existence is necessitated by the probabilistic circumstances rooted in the universe's existence.

Interesting convo :mj:

How do we know intelligent thought can only be processed in the mind of a human? There could be something of a great intelligence we're not remotely close to finding out about.

And that means that this hypothetical entity is the reason for our spawning? In the vastness of the universe, we're a mere speck of dust. We are meaningless insignificance.

Who says Jay Z and Will Smith are more successful than me @Godbody
Society? Surely it matters more if you consider yourself more successful not what others think. Besides I don't have huge lips like Jay Z so im definately more successful!

My view? Born die the end.

I'm claiming it's possible that the Universe has an intelligent thought process. That there's possibly a reason why the Earth is so perfectly placed and able to sustain life, that we're here for a reason. I'm not saying this is 100% facts, of course it's not. I'm just saying, we are all apart of the Universe. My understanding of Science has nothing to do with this theory.

Earth isnt really perfectly placed. The law of large numbers dictates that conditions would be right somewhere in a universe as vast as ours is. Now were finding millions of planets that exist in "habitable zones" that could be placed where life could potentially thrive. I think its foolish to think we are the only intelligent life in the universe. Possibly in our galaxy, that's yet to be seen. But there are billions of galaxies, the closest one to us is Andromeda and its like 100,000 light years away. We will never explore it. Not even close, but could life exist there? Maybe. What about in one of the other billions of galaxies with trillions of stars each with orbiting planets with orbiting moons. The numbers are just staggering and impossible to even comprehend. Couple that with the fact that we could potentially be one of infinite universes? We can only speculate and unfortunately thats all we'll ever have. Just go outside, look at the stars, and find your own meaning. We have no purpose, but meaning. Meaning we can make for ourselves.











Aight, I'm gonna go beat off to internet porn again.

"That we're here for a reason." Your entire thought process is built on the fear that life has no purpose outside of that which we give it. And it doesn't. You're basing your premise on nothing but egotism. That the human race is somehow significant, or "special." That we have a "reason" for being. You know what that reason is? Luck. A roll of the dice.