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lllllllllllll 05-02-2012 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL (Post 791895)
Fuck AZ.

Overrated as hell.

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ViTRiOL 05-02-2012 05:59 PM

Punk is the little elf in Santa's Grotto that makes sexy GIFs and canihascheezburger photos

Krhyme Killz 05-02-2012 06:12 PM

AZ not overrated yo...

but i think that alot of yall mis rate cats. while its special and heartwarming to make records that only you and 17-20 hardcore die-hard fans like....what really makes hip hop music dope are the records that transcend many different tastes. this doesnt necessarily equate to record sales, but record sales should be factored in. in the case of AZ...he dropped a heavily spun record called 'Sugar Hill' in like '93 or '94 to my best recollection...had the sole guest feature on Illmatic...and then faded to black.....whether this is attributed to 'not selling out' or 'staying true to his music' is up for debate....but at the end of the day..it's probably mostly due to not being able to cut it.

say what you want about Jay-Z, Cam, or Rick Ross....but the fact of the matter is that they stay true to themself as artists, and still managed to put out music that was promoted and vended properly.

there is a DISTINCT difference between cats like, Pharoahe Monch....who is consistently above the fray and writes shit out of this world...so despite only minor success in the mainstream, he is well respected by his peers...and cats like damn near every song posted in this thread. if given the opportunity, they couldnt write a relatable song if their life depended on it...


bottom line...too many GREAT emcees have stradled the line between art and commercialism for me to respect alot of these clowns that make songs that only pULSe would listen to.

Phil Banks 05-02-2012 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViTRiOL (Post 791895)
Fuck AZ.

Overrated as hell.

not by the comments in this post.

Godbody 05-02-2012 06:14 PM

Just C, AZ is a complex writer and just because you cant point out those elements of rap that I was talking about or you dont appreciate it, doesnt mean he's not one of the greatest of all time.

Step your songwriting skills up, take it from the dude that was looking into music school that there's classes for that

Then come talk to me when you grasp these things.

Ticket 05-02-2012 06:31 PM

The endless trolling continues.

Phil Banks 05-02-2012 06:36 PM

pulse lying yo u know u was teaching kids how to write yo... your on another lvl

Just C 05-02-2012 06:42 PM

Yeah pulse can't give up the troll. It's like he's addicted or something.

Godbody 05-02-2012 07:49 PM

Lol @ trolling

You probably didnt know what an internal was before I brought it to your attention

Just like how you didnt fuck with AZ until phil banks & remarK showed their approval

---------- Post added at 07:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:45 PM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krhyme Killz (Post 791911)
AZ not overrated yo...

but i think that alot of yall mis rate cats. while its special and heartwarming to make records that only you and 17-20 hardcore die-hard fans like....what really makes hip hop music dope are the records that transcend many different tastes. this doesnt necessarily equate to record sales, but record sales should be factored in. in the case of AZ...he dropped a heavily spun record called 'Sugar Hill' in like '93 or '94 to my best recollection...had the sole guest feature on Illmatic...and then faded to black.....whether this is attributed to 'not selling out' or 'staying true to his music' is up for debate....but at the end of the day..it's probably mostly due to not being able to cut it.

say what you want about Jay-Z, Cam, or Rick Ross....but the fact of the matter is that they stay true to themself as artists, and still managed to put out music that was promoted and vended properly.

there is a DISTINCT difference between cats like, Pharoahe Monch....who is consistently above the fray and writes shit out of this world...so despite only minor success in the mainstream, he is well respected by his peers...and cats like damn near every song posted in this thread. if given the opportunity, they couldnt write a relatable song if their life depended on it...


bottom line...too many GREAT emcees have stradled the line between art and commercialism for me to respect alot of these clowns that make songs that only pULSe would listen to.

Too many have stradled the line between art and commercialism...word..So you think AZ isn't shit because you didnt hear from him after Sugar Hill and he never had success like Jay-Z & Rick Ross?

He made the choice to do what he does best, and he doesn't dumb down his lyrics. He prides himself on being able to make the music he wants, the way he wants it, and not have it compromised because of what some label wants him to do. That's why he's been takin so long to drop Doe Or Die 2...He's gotta get shit done his way & he's strongly passionate about what he does.. He's tryna get some ill ass production on it and he's got a few dope producers already and possibly a Nas feature and Nas possibly has an AZ feature on his next album "Life Is Good"...

Real niggas recognize real niggas. Passionate Hip-Hop heads that scrutinize every bar of a song like myself appreciate rappers that drop meaningful, dope ass bars with smooth flow and clever wording...

Just C 05-02-2012 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pU1Se (Post 791931)
Lol @ trolling

You probably didnt know what an internal was before I brought it to your attention

Just like how you didnt fuck with AZ until phil banks & remarK showed their approval

---------- Post added at 07:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:45 PM ----------



Too many have stradled the line between art and commercialism...word..So you think AZ isn't shit because you didnt hear from him after Sugar Hill and he never had success like Jay-Z & Rick Ross?

He made the choice to do what he does best, and he doesn't dumb down his lyrics. He prides himself on being able to make the music he wants, the way he wants it, and not have it compromised because of what some label wants him to do. That's why he's been takin so long to drop Doe Or Die 2...He's gotta get shit done his way & he's strongly passionate about what he does.. He's tryna get some ill ass production on it and he's got a few dope producers already and possibly a Nas feature and Nas possibly has an AZ feature on his next album "Life Is Good"...

Real niggas recognize real niggas. Passionate Hip-Hop heads that scrutinize every bar of a song like myself appreciate rappers that drop meaningful, dope ass bars with smooth flow and clever wording...

But I don't fuck with AZ. Where did you get the idea that I changed my mind?


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