This shit is just Unorganized asf

IDK if DedSec is being intentionally fucked but IM NOT standing for this shit AT ALL ANYMORE...

LAST MONTHS LBT CARD

Spoiler for CLICK FOR LBT CARD:

how the FUCK.... is Tongan Kidd battling Guts for a #1 Contenders match THIS month when he WON his #1 Contenders battle LAST month and supposed to have his RIGHTFULLY EARNED TITLE SHOT....

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=515094

how the FUCK.... is Guts in a #1 Contenders battle when he was DQ'd LAST month..

How the FUCK.... is @Autograph NOT in the #1 contenders match THIS month when he won his Qualifying match LAST month.. now more battlers are ahead of him????? He was above grizz last month now THIS month he's battling grizz?????

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=515195

how the FUCK.... Is Kiwi in a TITLES MATCH?!?! What'd he do?... How he earn it??? Wasn't on last months card.. Callouts are SEPERATE from the actual LBT cards themselves so Where tf did this battle come from? No hate to Kiwi AT ALL but wtf...

Now on to LBA

Spoiler for CLICK FOR LBA CARD:

how the FUCK.... Is @BizzyOne (The Champion) Sending to the contender who is also Kiwi (yeah 2 title matches this month and aint battled on neither LBA or LBT last month)? Champion don't send to challenger.. Bizz opponent was supposed to be either Grizz or Rieper…. wtf.

It's CLEAR that every dedsec member that's apart of the LBT or LBA just got completely shitted on for some odd reason. If yall want people to participate in these bullshit ass PPV events, organize it first. Follow a system.. Cause it's bouncing all over the damn place. #1 contenders not getting their title matches, qualifying battlers not getting their #1 contenders matches, champions sending to challengers.. This shit's a popularity contest and my boys are getting robbed of their opportunities..

Either fix this shit or just end it.. It's not even REMOTELY fair.

IDK if DedSec is being intentionally fucked but IM NOT standing for this shit AT ALL ANYMORE...

LAST MONTHS LBT CARD

Spoiler for CLICK FOR LBT CARD:

how the FUCK.... is Tongan Kidd battling Guts for a #1 Contenders match THIS month when he WON his #1 Contenders battle LAST month and supposed to have his RIGHTFULLY EARNED TITLE SHOT....

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=515094

how the FUCK.... is Guts in a #1 Contenders battle when he was DQ'd LAST month..

How the FUCK.... is @Autograph NOT in the #1 contenders match THIS month when he won his Qualifying match LAST month.. now more battlers are ahead of him????? He was above grizz last month now THIS month he's battling grizz?????

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=515195

how the FUCK.... Is Kiwi in a TITLES MATCH?!?! What'd he do?... How he earn it??? Wasn't on last months card.. Callouts are SEPERATE from the actual LBT cards themselves so Where tf did this battle come from? No hate to Kiwi AT ALL but wtf...

Now on to LBA

Spoiler for CLICK FOR LBA CARD:

how the FUCK.... Is @BizzyOne (The Champion) Sending to the contender who is also Kiwi (yeah 2 title matches this month and aint battled on neither LBA or LBT last month)? Champion don't send to challenger.. Bizz opponent was supposed to be either Grizz or Rieper…. wtf.

It's CLEAR that every dedsec member that's apart of the LBT or LBA just got completely shitted on for some odd reason. If yall want people to participate in these bullshit ass PPV events, organize it first. Follow a system.. Cause it's bouncing all over the damn place. #1 contenders not getting their title matches, qualifying battlers not getting their #1 contenders matches, champions sending to challengers.. This shit's a popularity contest and my boys are getting robbed of their opportunities..

Either fix this shit or just end it.. It's not even REMOTELY fair.

Kiwi won #1 Contender like 3-4 months ago. He only didn't get his shot because I had to defend my title against people who called me out for it (REZN & Rican), so now he's getting his rightful shot at the title.

Also, I declined my title match until next month so I can battle Rican in audio since he likes talking so much.

Kiwi won #1 Contender like 3-4 months ago. He only didn't get his shot because I had to defend my title against people who called me out for it (REZN & Rican), so now he's getting his rightful shot at the title.

Also, I declined my title match until next month so I can battle Rican in audio since he likes talking so much.

[Autograph]

This shit is bananas lmao. Take me off this card.

[Autograph]

This shit is bananas lmao. Take me off this card.

Originally Posted by Rieper

Kiwi won #1 Contender like 3-4 months ago. He only didn't get his shot because I had to defend my title against people who called me out for it (REZN & Rican), so now he's getting his rightful shot at the title.

How's that fair to last months #1C though? like whats the point of having a #1 Contender's match last month if someone from 4 months ago that had a title shot wants it now?

Call outs has always been separate from LBT PPV title matches (you should know because that's how you took mine)

#1 Contenders should ALWAYS get their title matches.. IT NOT FAIR that they have to wait because of some screw up 4 months ago

Originally Posted by Rieper

Kiwi won #1 Contender like 3-4 months ago. He only didn't get his shot because I had to defend my title against people who called me out for it (REZN & Rican), so now he's getting his rightful shot at the title.

How's that fair to last months #1C though? like whats the point of having a #1 Contender's match last month if someone from 4 months ago that had a title shot wants it now?

Call outs has always been separate from LBT PPV title matches (you should know because that's how you took mine)

#1 Contenders should ALWAYS get their title matches.. IT NOT FAIR that they have to wait because of some screw up 4 months ago

Originally Posted by Punk

How's that fair to last months #1C though? like whats the point of having a #1 Contender's match last month if someone from 4 months ago that had a title shot wants it now?

Call outs has always been separate from LBT PPV title matches (you should know because that's how you took mine)

#1 Contenders should ALWAYS get their title matches.. IT NOT FAIR that they have to wait because of some screw up 4 months ago

Is it fair that a person who earned their title shot has to wait 4 months to finally be able to take advantage of it, though? I'm just tryna reason with you here.

As far as the whole Bizzy having to send for a title match, we both know that ain't happening. Champ always goes 2nd in the battle unless he chooses not to.

Also, I agree about Auto getting a #1 Contender battle. That should've definitely happened if he won the qualifying battle for it.

Originally Posted by Punk

How's that fair to last months #1C though? like whats the point of having a #1 Contender's match last month if someone from 4 months ago that had a title shot wants it now?

Call outs has always been separate from LBT PPV title matches (you should know because that's how you took mine)

#1 Contenders should ALWAYS get their title matches.. IT NOT FAIR that they have to wait because of some screw up 4 months ago

Is it fair that a person who earned their title shot has to wait 4 months to finally be able to take advantage of it, though? I'm just tryna reason with you here.

As far as the whole Bizzy having to send for a title match, we both know that ain't happening. Champ always goes 2nd in the battle unless he chooses not to.

Also, I agree about Auto getting a #1 Contender battle. That should've definitely happened if he won the qualifying battle for it.

Originally Posted by Rieper

Is it fair that a person who earned their title shot has to wait 4 months to finally be able to take advantage of it, though? I'm just tryna reason with you here.

As far as the whole Bizzy having to send for a title match, we both know that ain't happening. Champ always goes 2nd in the battle unless he chooses not to.

Not even close to what im saying... If he earned his title shot 4 months ago HE SHOULD'VE BATTLED 4 MONTHS AGO.. Your CALLOUTS ARE SEPERATE from the LBT card its ALWAYS been that way

Whoever ran the cards back then should've known that.. FOR EXAMPLE.... If you received 3 callouts and accepted them all that month.. you were supposed to battle 4 times including the #1 contender.. Not battle the callouts while the #1 contender waits after putting in the actual work.....

Originally Posted by Rieper

Is it fair that a person who earned their title shot has to wait 4 months to finally be able to take advantage of it, though? I'm just tryna reason with you here.

As far as the whole Bizzy having to send for a title match, we both know that ain't happening. Champ always goes 2nd in the battle unless he chooses not to.

Not even close to what im saying... If he earned his title shot 4 months ago HE SHOULD'VE BATTLED 4 MONTHS AGO.. Your CALLOUTS ARE SEPERATE from the LBT card its ALWAYS been that way

Whoever ran the cards back then should've known that.. FOR EXAMPLE.... If you received 3 callouts and accepted them all that month.. you were supposed to battle 4 times including the #1 contender.. Not battle the callouts while the #1 contender waits after putting in the actual work.....

Originally Posted by Punk

Not even close to what im saying... If he earned his title shot 4 months ago HE SHOULD'VE BATTLED 4 MONTHS AGO.. Your CALLOUTS ARE SEPERATE from the LBT card its ALWAYS been that way

Whoever ran the cards back then should've known that.. FOR EXAMPLE.... If you received 3 callouts and accepted them all that month.. you were supposed to battle 4 times including the #1 contender.. Not battle the callouts while the #1 contender waits after putting in the actual work.....

I'm not saying you're wrong, bro. Lol. I'm just saying is it necessarily fair to Kiwi that he's forced to wait any longer than what he already is just to finally get a shot at the title? You're the one who brought up fairness here and I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.

Imo Kiwi should have the right to callout the champ whenever he wants now since the flow of events is all fucked up. Kinda like how WWE does the Money In The Bank. The title-holder CAN'T deny the challenge because the person issuing the challenge rightfully earned it in the first place.

How does that idea sound to you guys? That's the best idea I can think of to fix the situation. This would imply that Tongan gets his title match he rightfully earned, but Kiwi could immediately call out whomever wins and the champ can't deny the callout otherwise he forfeits the title.

Originally Posted by Punk

Not even close to what im saying... If he earned his title shot 4 months ago HE SHOULD'VE BATTLED 4 MONTHS AGO.. Your CALLOUTS ARE SEPERATE from the LBT card its ALWAYS been that way

Whoever ran the cards back then should've known that.. FOR EXAMPLE.... If you received 3 callouts and accepted them all that month.. you were supposed to battle 4 times including the #1 contender.. Not battle the callouts while the #1 contender waits after putting in the actual work.....

I'm not saying you're wrong, bro. Lol. I'm just saying is it necessarily fair to Kiwi that he's forced to wait any longer than what he already is just to finally get a shot at the title? You're the one who brought up fairness here and I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.

Imo Kiwi should have the right to callout the champ whenever he wants now since the flow of events is all fucked up. Kinda like how WWE does the Money In The Bank. The title-holder CAN'T deny the challenge because the person issuing the challenge rightfully earned it in the first place.

How does that idea sound to you guys? That's the best idea I can think of to fix the situation. This would imply that Tongan gets his title match he rightfully earned, but Kiwi could immediately call out whomever wins and the champ can't deny the callout otherwise he forfeits the title.

Originally Posted by Rieper

I'm not saying you're wrong, bro. Lol. I'm just saying is it necessarily fair to Kiwi that he's forced to wait any longer than what he already is just to finally get a shot at the title? You're the one who brought up fairness here and I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.

Imo Kiwi should have the right to callout the champ whenever he wants now since the flow of events is all fucked up. Kinda like how WWE does the Money In The Bank. The title-holder CAN'T deny the challenge because the person issuing the challenge rightfully earned it in the first place.

How does that idea sound to you guys? That's the best idea I can think of to fix the situation. This would imply that Tongan gets his title match he rightfully earned, but Kiwi could immediately call out whomever wins and the champ can't deny the callout otherwise he forfeits the title.

Lock, i like you.. you know that.. Like a brother man so don't take this debate as an raging argument..

But what im saying is... Kiwi SHOULDVE battled 4 months ago if we wanted to keep things fair.. But this month, we're making it UNFAIR for Tongan but Fair to Kiwi after 4 months because whoever ran the LBT back then (NOT SURE WHO IT WAS) didn't give Kiwi his title shot.....Tongan has NOTHING to do with that. Hell i won my #1 contenders match 6 months months ago.. Do i get a title match next month???

Originally Posted by Rieper

I'm not saying you're wrong, bro. Lol. I'm just saying is it necessarily fair to Kiwi that he's forced to wait any longer than what he already is just to finally get a shot at the title? You're the one who brought up fairness here and I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.

Imo Kiwi should have the right to callout the champ whenever he wants now since the flow of events is all fucked up. Kinda like how WWE does the Money In The Bank. The title-holder CAN'T deny the challenge because the person issuing the challenge rightfully earned it in the first place.

How does that idea sound to you guys? That's the best idea I can think of to fix the situation. This would imply that Tongan gets his title match he rightfully earned, but Kiwi could immediately call out whomever wins and the champ can't deny the callout otherwise he forfeits the title.

Lock, i like you.. you know that.. Like a brother man so don't take this debate as an raging argument..

But what im saying is... Kiwi SHOULDVE battled 4 months ago if we wanted to keep things fair.. But this month, we're making it UNFAIR for Tongan but Fair to Kiwi after 4 months because whoever ran the LBT back then (NOT SURE WHO IT WAS) didn't give Kiwi his title shot.....Tongan has NOTHING to do with that. Hell i won my #1 contenders match 6 months months ago.. Do i get a title match next month???

[EtH]

Your point would have more weight if it wasn't only being made because of bias.

I was told repeatedly that I might not be able to battle Lock in the PPV after I won the #1 contenders match because there were other callouts. I spoke about this publicly and you had no problem with it then.

LBT is horrendously run and disorganized, but it has been for longer than your crews existed. You can't just decide it's a problem when it affects your buddies.

[EtH]

Your point would have more weight if it wasn't only being made because of bias.

I was told repeatedly that I might not be able to battle Lock in the PPV after I won the #1 contenders match because there were other callouts. I spoke about this publicly and you had no problem with it then.

LBT is horrendously run and disorganized, but it has been for longer than your crews existed. You can't just decide it's a problem when it affects your buddies.

Originally Posted by Punk

Lock, i like you.. you know that.. Like a brother man so don't take this debate as an raging argument..

But what im saying is... Kiwi SHOULDVE battled 4 months ago if we wanted to keep things fair.. But this month, we're making it UNFAIR for Tongan but Fair to Kiwi after 4 months because whoever ran the LBT back then (NOT SURE WHO IT WAS) didn't give Kiwi his title shot.....Tongan has NOTHING to do with that. Hell i won my #1 contenders match 6 months months ago.. Do i get a title match next month???

I'm implying that you would have the right to call out the champ whenever you want and they couldn't deny your callout because you earned your shot at the title by putting the work. This is to just help out the folks who got screwed by being lost in the shuffle and nothing else.

I'm also saying that Tongan DOES deserve his fair shot at the title match this month and should absolutely get his shot at it this month. I never said he didn't.

Originally Posted by Punk

Lock, i like you.. you know that.. Like a brother man so don't take this debate as an raging argument..

But what im saying is... Kiwi SHOULDVE battled 4 months ago if we wanted to keep things fair.. But this month, we're making it UNFAIR for Tongan but Fair to Kiwi after 4 months because whoever ran the LBT back then (NOT SURE WHO IT WAS) didn't give Kiwi his title shot.....Tongan has NOTHING to do with that. Hell i won my #1 contenders match 6 months months ago.. Do i get a title match next month???

I'm implying that you would have the right to call out the champ whenever you want and they couldn't deny your callout because you earned your shot at the title by putting the work. This is to just help out the folks who got screwed by being lost in the shuffle and nothing else.

I'm also saying that Tongan DOES deserve his fair shot at the title match this month and should absolutely get his shot at it this month. I never said he didn't.