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View Poll Results: Who is the weakest Grand Champion?
Rant 6 31.58%
TalkSick 2 10.53%
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But if I'm able to be competitive with the amazing guys of today, and I wasn't even a drop in the ocean back then....and I've barely ever improved....

I mean I basically beat Celsius, the current top guy, I beat ILLoKWENT, I beat Enf. I beat MaCc who apparently every one of you have lost to for some reason.

EDIT: I mean your current number one rival, who you are sayijng is abysmal, just smashed every single current era guy to win the GC.
You literally have no idea what you are talking about. Rant's GC run went "ice-9, after-life, aggo, no-show, coffin-dodger, celcius". The only people he beat that were decent were Aggo and Cel.

Coffin dodger made it to the semi-finals of that GC. fuckin coffin dodger


He did not smash every single current-era guy. Just because there is a GC doesn't mean good people are in it.
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But if I'm able to be competitive with the amazing guys of today, and I wasn't even a drop in the ocean back then....and I've barely ever improved....

I mean I basically beat Celsius, the current top guy, I beat ILLoKWENT, I beat Enf. I beat MaCc who apparently every one of you have lost to for some reason.

EDIT: I mean your current number one rival, who you are sayijng is abysmal, just smashed every single current era guy to win the GC.
You literally have no idea what you are talking about. Rant's GC run went "ice-9, after-life, aggo, no-show, coffin-dodger, celcius". The only people he beat that were decent were Aggo and Cel.

Coffin dodger made it to the semi-finals of that GC. fuckin coffin dodger


He did not smash every single current-era guy. Just because there is a GC doesn't mean good people are in it.
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Who are the good people? We're also literally talking about the GC right now, so dismissing it is a hilarious alteration to your GC related threat.

Didn't RULE step out of retirement not long agho after being MIA for like 4 years and smash everyone effortlessly to win the GC again? Askari bounced back from obscurity and made everyone his bitch too.
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Who are the good people? We're also literally talking about the GC right now, so dismissing it is a hilarious alteration to your GC related threat.

Didn't RULE step out of retirement not long agho after being MIA for like 4 years and smash everyone effortlessly to win the GC again? Askari bounced back from obscurity and made everyone his bitch too.
 
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Who are the good people? We're also literally talking about the GC right now, so dismissing it is a hilarious alteration to your GC related threat.

Didn't RULE step out of retirement not long agho after being MIA for like 4 years and smash everyone effortlessly to win the GC again? Askari bounced back from obscurity and made everyone his bitch too.
Yeah well that's because RULE was like the founder of the punch heavy style anyways, so he isn't really the best example. He never had tons of filler to begin with.
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Who are the good people? We're also literally talking about the GC right now, so dismissing it is a hilarious alteration to your GC related threat.

Didn't RULE step out of retirement not long agho after being MIA for like 4 years and smash everyone effortlessly to win the GC again? Askari bounced back from obscurity and made everyone his bitch too.
Yeah well that's because RULE was like the founder of the punch heavy style anyways, so he isn't really the best example. He never had tons of filler to begin with.
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First Subreal tries to teach me LB history, next NOBLE will be teaching me how to break racial stereotypes.

Rule didn't create the punch heavy style, and @RULE will confirm this. Everyone was using punchlines back then, just some guys were still figuring out how to make it clean (most were only a year or two into battling). Most of the guys had it down already. I was even doing that shit before RULE joined. I can fire off several shit punches I used against RULE before he even dropped the Deville.

The only time you ever see Rule's above my verse is when starting a new battle
I'll keep writing lines after breaking rules like Bart Simpson
Ruler? Really? It's not school when I use ruler to measure the distance between us

And so on and so forth. Back when I beat RULE I might have been using generic as fuck nameplay but I was still using technically sound punches at 2 liners per punch, 4 punches per battle. This shit pre-dates RULE, and probably me.
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First Subreal tries to teach me LB history, next NOBLE will be teaching me how to break racial stereotypes.

Rule didn't create the punch heavy style, and @RULE will confirm this. Everyone was using punchlines back then, just some guys were still figuring out how to make it clean (most were only a year or two into battling). Most of the guys had it down already. I was even doing that shit before RULE joined. I can fire off several shit punches I used against RULE before he even dropped the Deville.

The only time you ever see Rule's above my verse is when starting a new battle
I'll keep writing lines after breaking rules like Bart Simpson
Ruler? Really? It's not school when I use ruler to measure the distance between us

And so on and so forth. Back when I beat RULE I might have been using generic as fuck nameplay but I was still using technically sound punches at 2 liners per punch, 4 punches per battle. This shit pre-dates RULE, and probably me.
 
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How come everyone completely forgot about TalkSick’s GC run? He should NOT be placed below rant and shiz, @NOBLE. I remember how dope Talk’s was. I was with DPS at the time and he beat Nat, Black Book, RhetoriK, and Erupt in 4 dope ass battles.
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How come everyone completely forgot about TalkSick’s GC run? He should NOT be placed below rant and shiz, @NOBLE. I remember how dope Talk’s was. I was with DPS at the time and he beat Nat, Black Book, RhetoriK, and Erupt in 4 dope ass battles.
 
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Not saying Talk isn't dope at all...but Rant and Dissizit are a bit stronger in my estimation. Dissizit has beaten some of those people you mentioned and him and Rhet are probably top 5 all-time when it comes to phrasial wordplay punches. I'm not talking wordplay in general cause there are different kinds, but a specific type. Rant is an all-around dope battler, and i'm looking at all-around, not just text. Would TalkSick beat Rant in a track or audio battle? I kinda doubt it.
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Not saying Talk isn't dope at all...but Rant and Dissizit are a bit stronger in my estimation. Dissizit has beaten some of those people you mentioned and him and Rhet are probably top 5 all-time when it comes to phrasial wordplay punches. I'm not talking wordplay in general cause there are different kinds, but a specific type. Rant is an all-around dope battler, and i'm looking at all-around, not just text. Would TalkSick beat Rant in a track or audio battle? I kinda doubt it.
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Not saying Talk isn't dope at all...but Rant and Dissizit are a bit stronger in my estimation. Dissizit has beaten some of those people you mentioned and him and Rhet are probably top 5 all-time when it comes to phrasial wordplay punches. I'm not talking wordplay in general cause there are different kinds, but a specific type. Rant is an all-around dope battler, and i'm looking at all-around, not just text. Would TalkSick beat Rant in a track or audio battle? I kinda doubt it.
Dissizit is 50/50. In my personal estimation, the majority of his wordplay didn't even work. I mean, it didn't sound the same, let alone even working both ways when it does.

Rhet, I think the guy's awesome, but Rhet imo isn't top 50 in terms of wordplay.

Rant's pretty solid yeah. A tough out for anyone to beat. I'm just talking text. Audio is a whole different thing and there's no one on LB that without research, is qualified to make a list on both all the text and all the audio. Everyone in here's talking text. I think Rant would struggle to make it that far in other GCs, but Rant right now would definitely have been the "one to watch" guy. He'd be with Rican and those kind of guys as the "if things go a specific way, he could sneak in and take it" category.

TalkSick was even a little bit better and bigger before the time Punk's mentioning. I didn't actually really see his GC run but I know he's one of the few, like Askari and some others, that came back, got back into the swing of things quickly and beasted. I recall him maybe trying a third time less successfully.

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A disclaimer I should have said is that I'd have put Manny right under Erupt had it not been for what was kind of a shady ordeal with Skizz. Some bias slipped in.
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Not saying Talk isn't dope at all...but Rant and Dissizit are a bit stronger in my estimation. Dissizit has beaten some of those people you mentioned and him and Rhet are probably top 5 all-time when it comes to phrasial wordplay punches. I'm not talking wordplay in general cause there are different kinds, but a specific type. Rant is an all-around dope battler, and i'm looking at all-around, not just text. Would TalkSick beat Rant in a track or audio battle? I kinda doubt it.
Dissizit is 50/50. In my personal estimation, the majority of his wordplay didn't even work. I mean, it didn't sound the same, let alone even working both ways when it does.

Rhet, I think the guy's awesome, but Rhet imo isn't top 50 in terms of wordplay.

Rant's pretty solid yeah. A tough out for anyone to beat. I'm just talking text. Audio is a whole different thing and there's no one on LB that without research, is qualified to make a list on both all the text and all the audio. Everyone in here's talking text. I think Rant would struggle to make it that far in other GCs, but Rant right now would definitely have been the "one to watch" guy. He'd be with Rican and those kind of guys as the "if things go a specific way, he could sneak in and take it" category.

TalkSick was even a little bit better and bigger before the time Punk's mentioning. I didn't actually really see his GC run but I know he's one of the few, like Askari and some others, that came back, got back into the swing of things quickly and beasted. I recall him maybe trying a third time less successfully.

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A disclaimer I should have said is that I'd have put Manny right under Erupt had it not been for what was kind of a shady ordeal with Skizz. Some bias slipped in.
 
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Where would you put Row? Wasn't his GC in text?
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Where would you put Row? Wasn't his GC in text?
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Ya you can’t be speaking on all around if this thread is specifically text related

Row was audio vs Bleu in finals
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Ya you can’t be speaking on all around if this thread is specifically text related

Row was audio vs Bleu in finals
 
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An Audio version of this would be interesting, honestly.
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