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Voting power should be based on ones ability to assess a battle objectively / accurately as well as their battling prowess as I've said many of times. Yes, some staff don't deserve 4 VP, I've repeated time and time again as well.
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Voting power should be based on ones ability to assess a battle objectively / accurately as well as their battling prowess as I've said many of times. Yes, some staff don't deserve 4 VP, I've repeated time and time again as well.
 
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....Not To Throw In a Monkey Wrench But Why All This Bickering About Mod VP anyway? The Only Two Mods That Vote Are Nick And Aggo. I Haven't See Any Other Green Names On the Left Panel In An Abundance and I ALWAYS see Mods Online. I've Messaged Many Mods For Various Reasons Needing their Help and I Can Count On One Hand The Responses That I Have Received. There Isn't That Much 'Busy' On LB at All... So Someone Give Me a Reason For The Lack Of MOD activity....

PS. Simply... (0-3) makes the Most Sense for the Voting Scale. 0 for Bad Voters, 1 for Inconsistently Positive Voters, 2 For the Majority Of Decent, Slightly Expo'd and Fair Voters and 3 for Mods and Great Voters. Admins Could Have a 4 VP power, who would Even Care? They Never Vote Anyway...
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....Not To Throw In a Monkey Wrench But Why All This Bickering About Mod VP anyway? The Only Two Mods That Vote Are Nick And Aggo. I Haven't See Any Other Green Names On the Left Panel In An Abundance and I ALWAYS see Mods Online. I've Messaged Many Mods For Various Reasons Needing their Help and I Can Count On One Hand The Responses That I Have Received. There Isn't That Much 'Busy' On LB at All... So Someone Give Me a Reason For The Lack Of MOD activity....

PS. Simply... (0-3) makes the Most Sense for the Voting Scale. 0 for Bad Voters, 1 for Inconsistently Positive Voters, 2 For the Majority Of Decent, Slightly Expo'd and Fair Voters and 3 for Mods and Great Voters. Admins Could Have a 4 VP power, who would Even Care? They Never Vote Anyway...
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The traditional reason why mods need to have higher vp is to help close battles.
For example, when someone has been found voting for themselves with a multi account, the latest policy is to remove all votes for that person and assign an auto-win to their opponent---all votes except the one from the actual multi-account.
The reason why we (I'll use "we" even though I'm not currently staff) don't remove the vote from the multi-account is so it remains in the system when a mod checks for multiple accounts and self-voting on a user's page. If the vote is removed, which seems the obvious thing to do, evidence is also erased from that log.
If it happens to be a low vote battle, one with only 2 or 3 votes, for example, and the multi-account vote is the only one left and is going for the offender, a mod's vote has to outweigh the multi-account's vp in order to help the battle close faster. The system will not close a battle that has equal vp count and it usually will not close a battle that has less than 3 votes. But if a battle is already older than 3 days, even with just two votes and as long as there is more vp on one side than the other, it can be re-ranked and closed.
With that being said, there is no reason why we can't lower mod vp to be the same as everyone else's and simply have more than one mod show up to vote on an auto-win battle to close the battle....or even to get other users to come vote. However, that sometimes works better in theory than in practice. A lot of mods are very inactive, especially when it comes to voting....So getting them to vote might be a monumental task. I don't agree that there's not enough activity for the staff. Voting itself is an activity, and votes are always needed.
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The traditional reason why mods need to have higher vp is to help close battles.
For example, when someone has been found voting for themselves with a multi account, the latest policy is to remove all votes for that person and assign an auto-win to their opponent---all votes except the one from the actual multi-account.
The reason why we (I'll use "we" even though I'm not currently staff) don't remove the vote from the multi-account is so it remains in the system when a mod checks for multiple accounts and self-voting on a user's page. If the vote is removed, which seems the obvious thing to do, evidence is also erased from that log.
If it happens to be a low vote battle, one with only 2 or 3 votes, for example, and the multi-account vote is the only one left and is going for the offender, a mod's vote has to outweigh the multi-account's vp in order to help the battle close faster. The system will not close a battle that has equal vp count and it usually will not close a battle that has less than 3 votes. But if a battle is already older than 3 days, even with just two votes and as long as there is more vp on one side than the other, it can be re-ranked and closed.
With that being said, there is no reason why we can't lower mod vp to be the same as everyone else's and simply have more than one mod show up to vote on an auto-win battle to close the battle....or even to get other users to come vote. However, that sometimes works better in theory than in practice. A lot of mods are very inactive, especially when it comes to voting....So getting them to vote might be a monumental task. I don't agree that there's not enough activity for the staff. Voting itself is an activity, and votes are always needed.
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I have lowered my vp to 2 anyway.. fuck the system
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Voting power should be based on ones ability to assess a battle objectively / accurately as well as their battling prowess as I've said many of times. Yes, some staff don't deserve 4 VP, I've repeated time and time again as well.
This made me think, what are the parameters around how exactly a regular members VP gets lowered anyways? Is it just a manual thing? I know there are some abysmal voters with 0 vp, but I'd like to know how we go about discerning how one is deserving of that?

also side-note to any mod is X still responsive enough for these talks to result in any changes according to the majority opinion? just wondering

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Voting power should be based on ones ability to assess a battle objectively / accurately as well as their battling prowess as I've said many of times. Yes, some staff don't deserve 4 VP, I've repeated time and time again as well.
This made me think, what are the parameters around how exactly a regular members VP gets lowered anyways? Is it just a manual thing? I know there are some abysmal voters with 0 vp, but I'd like to know how we go about discerning how one is deserving of that?

also side-note to any mod is X still responsive enough for these talks to result in any changes according to the majority opinion? just wondering

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This made me think, what are the parameters around how exactly a regular members VP gets lowered anyways? Is it just a manual thing? I know there are some abysmal voters with 0 vp, but I'd like to know how we go about discerning how one is deserving of that?

also side-note to any mod is X still responsive enough for these talks to result in any changes according to the majority opinion? just wondering



u been here for a while, how do u not know why a person's vp gets lowered?think about the most obvious reason we would lower a person's vp ,then you just answered your question
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This made me think, what are the parameters around how exactly a regular members VP gets lowered anyways? Is it just a manual thing? I know there are some abysmal voters with 0 vp, but I'd like to know how we go about discerning how one is deserving of that?

also side-note to any mod is X still responsive enough for these talks to result in any changes according to the majority opinion? just wondering



u been here for a while, how do u not know why a person's vp gets lowered?think about the most obvious reason we would lower a person's vp ,then you just answered your question
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u been here for a while, how do u not know why a person's vp gets lowered?think about the most obvious reason we would lower a person's vp ,then you just answered your question
He's asking how, not why. You ignorant fuckwit. No wonder you can't write. You have the reading comprehension of a retarded chimp with shaken baby syndrome.
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u been here for a while, how do u not know why a person's vp gets lowered?think about the most obvious reason we would lower a person's vp ,then you just answered your question
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This made me think, what are the parameters around how exactly a regular members VP gets lowered anyways? Is it just a manual thing? I know there are some abysmal voters with 0 vp, but I'd like to know how we go about discerning how one is deserving of that?

also side-note to any mod is X still responsive enough for these talks to result in any changes according to the majority opinion? just wondering



It's been pretty much arbitrary, based on individual perception. Someone could've seen one vote of yours that they think is shitty and decide to lower your vp based on that and it pretty much stays that way until you're lucky enough to have another mod who sees you've been voting consistently well who decides to raise it. It's much easier to get your vp lowered than to have it raised.
One of the coding changes I had always pushed for, and which they finally implemented, was for mods to be able to see a user's voting history. That way, at least they have the tool to systematically comb through a user's voting pattern as opposed to making decisions based on only one or a few that they happened to have come across. Someone can drop one shitty vote and not necessarily be an overall bad voter who deserves to have their vp lowered. A decision like that should be based on having looked at multiple battles where the person voted.
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This made me think, what are the parameters around how exactly a regular members VP gets lowered anyways? Is it just a manual thing? I know there are some abysmal voters with 0 vp, but I'd like to know how we go about discerning how one is deserving of that?

also side-note to any mod is X still responsive enough for these talks to result in any changes according to the majority opinion? just wondering



It's been pretty much arbitrary, based on individual perception. Someone could've seen one vote of yours that they think is shitty and decide to lower your vp based on that and it pretty much stays that way until you're lucky enough to have another mod who sees you've been voting consistently well who decides to raise it. It's much easier to get your vp lowered than to have it raised.
One of the coding changes I had always pushed for, and which they finally implemented, was for mods to be able to see a user's voting history. That way, at least they have the tool to systematically comb through a user's voting pattern as opposed to making decisions based on only one or a few that they happened to have come across. Someone can drop one shitty vote and not necessarily be an overall bad voter who deserves to have their vp lowered. A decision like that should be based on having looked at multiple battles where the person voted.
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I have lowered my vp to 2 anyway.. fuck the system
I’m with you on that one. Lowering mine
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I don't think mods have really been on the raising / lowering VP duty lately. A lot of new accounts are running around with 2 VP dropping shitty votes and people are losing battles they won because of it.
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I don't think mods have really been on the raising / lowering VP duty lately. A lot of new accounts are running around with 2 VP dropping shitty votes and people are losing battles they won because of it.
 
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