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Jason deleted unfortunately
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How can I read his shit? No way right?
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For me, a top 5 list can mean a lot of things and looks very different depending on what you're judging on. Based on the quality of their bars relative to their time period, my top 5 would be something along the lines of:

UA
Illimit
Lockhart
DaDDiO
Real Talk
(in no particular order)

Based on success and dominance though, the list is somewhat different:
UA
Lockhart
LEFT FIELD
RULE
Jason
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For me, a top 5 list can mean a lot of things and looks very different depending on what you're judging on. Based on the quality of their bars relative to their time period, my top 5 would be something along the lines of:

UA
Illimit
Lockhart
DaDDiO
Real Talk
(in no particular order)

Based on success and dominance though, the list is somewhat different:
UA
Lockhart
LEFT FIELD
RULE
Jason
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How can I read his shit? No way right?
Yeah, unfortunately the work of so many site greats - Jason, Lock, Bleu, Ticket and quite a few others - is basically irretrievable. I think I might be able to dig up a few Lock and Bleu verses possibly if you're keen to check them out, as some people probably have a few saved somewhere, but anyone further back there's almost no chance.
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Yeah, unfortunately the work of so many site greats - Jason, Lock, Bleu, Ticket and quite a few others - is basically irretrievable. I think I might be able to dig up a few Lock and Bleu verses possibly if you're keen to check them out, as some people probably have a few saved somewhere, but anyone further back there's almost no chance.
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Yeah, unfortunately the work of so many site greats - Jason, Lock, Bleu, Ticket and quite a few others - is basically irretrievable. I think I might be able to dig up a few Lock and Bleu verses possibly if you're keen to check them out, as some people probably have a few saved somewhere, but anyone further back there's almost no chance.
That sucks that the site allows that but I get it.

I’d love to read whatever links you got man
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Yeah, unfortunately the work of so many site greats - Jason, Lock, Bleu, Ticket and quite a few others - is basically irretrievable. I think I might be able to dig up a few Lock and Bleu verses possibly if you're keen to check them out, as some people probably have a few saved somewhere, but anyone further back there's almost no chance.
That sucks that the site allows that but I get it.

I’d love to read whatever links you got man
 
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Ah. Top 5 lists always make my day lol

Wassup my nigs just stopping by

---------- Post added at 12:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:53 AM ----------

1. U.A
2. Lockhart or Bleu (too close to call for me)
3. Real Talk
4. Daddio
5. RULE
6. Jason
7. Reefer (dudes schemes are crazy)
8. Manhattan or Illokwent (one again close ass call)
9. Askari
10. Phroxen


My personal faves

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Ah. Top 5 lists always make my day lol

Wassup my nigs just stopping by

---------- Post added at 12:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:53 AM ----------

1. U.A
2. Lockhart or Bleu (too close to call for me)
3. Real Talk
4. Daddio
5. RULE
6. Jason
7. Reefer (dudes schemes are crazy)
8. Manhattan or Illokwent (one again close ass call)
9. Askari
10. Phroxen


My personal faves

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Ah. Top 5 lists always make my day lol

Wassup my nigs just stopping by

---------- Post added at 12:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:53 AM ----------

1. U.A
2. Lockhart or Bleu (too close to call for me)
3. Real Talk
4. Daddio
5. RULE
6. Jason
7. Reefer (dudes schemes are crazy)
8. Manhattan or Illokwent (one again close ass call)
9. Askari
10. Phroxen


My personal faves
Whattup Gawd,

You blessing my thread with a post gets you in my top 5 alone. Lol
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Ah. Top 5 lists always make my day lol

Wassup my nigs just stopping by

---------- Post added at 12:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:53 AM ----------

1. U.A
2. Lockhart or Bleu (too close to call for me)
3. Real Talk
4. Daddio
5. RULE
6. Jason
7. Reefer (dudes schemes are crazy)
8. Manhattan or Illokwent (one again close ass call)
9. Askari
10. Phroxen


My personal faves
Whattup Gawd,

You blessing my thread with a post gets you in my top 5 alone. Lol
 
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Whattup Gawd,

You blessing my thread with a post gets you in my top 5 alone. Lol
Haha Thanks man. Just checking on my brothers seeing how the sites holding up.
Idk about top 5 text but I’m probably somewhere in the top 10 depends on who you ask.

According to the people’s choice I’m a few people’s favorite texter so I’ll take that haha

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You blessing my thread with a post gets you in my top 5 alone. Lol
Haha Thanks man. Just checking on my brothers seeing how the sites holding up.
Idk about top 5 text but I’m probably somewhere in the top 10 depends on who you ask.

According to the people’s choice I’m a few people’s favorite texter so I’ll take that haha

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Reef is not Top 5 All-Time. Top 10? Maybe yeah, but not Top 5.

Illimit, Mayneak, Askari, Manhattan, Lockhart when he was Rieper, Row would all slice him with their eyes closed. No offense because he's a great, but not top 5. UA is overrated as hell to me, but others will say he's top 5.
I know it's been days but I like having these arguments so I feel I gotta respond to this.

reEFer would (and did) beat Mayneak, and was 1–0 against him.
Illimit, Askari, Manhattan and Lockhart did all beat him, and are 1–0 against him.

Row is a tough one; reEFer kept coming back through the mid-to-late 2010s and not doing well, and I'd say Row would (and possibly did) beat him in this period. But if you take reEFer at his peak, when he was 2–2 with DaDDiO, 1–1 with UA and 2–0 against RULE, plus made 2 consecutive GC finals? No way Row beats him then.

On the topic of UA, I personally consider him the GOAT (basically the only guy from the 2000s/early 2010s whose bars still hold up to today's standards); plus he was able to dominate and win tournaments under a secret multi without name recognition; and he achieved more (according to the Greatest of Champions points system) in a time period with way fewer tourneys than anyone before or since was able to do besides Bleu and Lock. He's also 3–1 vs Mayneak (who I know you rank very highly) and overall 15–9 against Text Hall of Famers.

As for someone I feel gets left out of these discussions a lot, LEFT FIELD was astonishingly dominant if you look back at his record. Dude had a 19–2 record against HOFers, including 4–0 vs Illimit, 4–0 vs reEFer, 2–0 vs Askari, 1–0 vs Real Talk and UA and 4–2 against Meta4.
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Reef is not Top 5 All-Time. Top 10? Maybe yeah, but not Top 5.

Illimit, Mayneak, Askari, Manhattan, Lockhart when he was Rieper, Row would all slice him with their eyes closed. No offense because he's a great, but not top 5. UA is overrated as hell to me, but others will say he's top 5.
I know it's been days but I like having these arguments so I feel I gotta respond to this.

reEFer would (and did) beat Mayneak, and was 1–0 against him.
Illimit, Askari, Manhattan and Lockhart did all beat him, and are 1–0 against him.

Row is a tough one; reEFer kept coming back through the mid-to-late 2010s and not doing well, and I'd say Row would (and possibly did) beat him in this period. But if you take reEFer at his peak, when he was 2–2 with DaDDiO, 1–1 with UA and 2–0 against RULE, plus made 2 consecutive GC finals? No way Row beats him then.

On the topic of UA, I personally consider him the GOAT (basically the only guy from the 2000s/early 2010s whose bars still hold up to today's standards); plus he was able to dominate and win tournaments under a secret multi without name recognition; and he achieved more (according to the Greatest of Champions points system) in a time period with way fewer tourneys than anyone before or since was able to do besides Bleu and Lock. He's also 3–1 vs Mayneak (who I know you rank very highly) and overall 15–9 against Text Hall of Famers.

As for someone I feel gets left out of these discussions a lot, LEFT FIELD was astonishingly dominant if you look back at his record. Dude had a 19–2 record against HOFers, including 4–0 vs Illimit, 4–0 vs reEFer, 2–0 vs Askari, 1–0 vs Real Talk and UA and 4–2 against Meta4.
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