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All true but open battles are optional. Just call someone outbid you want to flip a name. We should just encourage less ducking.

it's not about WANTING to flip a name, it's about someone getting to do it to you. so far you and edge seem against it which is fine. i'm just making mental notes of who's for and who's against it.
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All true but open battles are optional. Just call someone outbid you want to flip a name. We should just encourage less ducking.

it's not about WANTING to flip a name, it's about someone getting to do it to you. so far you and edge seem against it which is fine. i'm just making mental notes of who's for and who's against it.
 
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name flips are for sure dope. but it's not fair that for example edge accepts guts battle and throws some personals and name flips (which were hella funny btw) and guts just writes some random bars and throws em up.

you want see a live battle, where one dude is blindfolded and forced to just spit random bars at one in particular, and the other dude gets (however long, sometimes days) to think of personals and name flips.

and the whole idea of just not posting goes back to the problem i'm trying to address. nobody WILL post anything because they know'll they'll be at a massive disadvantage.

using another example of me and you, you DID post an open and i responded using name flips. which gave me an advantage. i still lost but it's not because i didn't have an advantage, it's because i'm not as good as you are at this point. i challenged myself and shot up. which most people wouldn't be willing to do. imagine how long your verse would have sat there if i didn't take it. look how long O_G's verses stayed up. (i had to take one myself just because i was sick of seeing them up there)

i get the issue with not wanting the voting to be blind, but for the things like (not wanting to read a shitty battle, or dig through shitty battles) there are other things like (somebody not getting the W just because of name value) basically this would eliminate specifically people with insane records that just aren't true. look at shodans record than look at bnas. it's fucking stupid. and only bans is going to do 4000 battles against noobs to get a record like that. this prevents that, which makes things more reputable in the end.
That’s the thing though, that would never happen in a live battle. You can’t compare it to that becsuse it’s completely different. Live matches the opponents are set before hand, there’s nothing that’s similar to someone who posts an open on LB. and that’s the point, opens are optional and by definition they carry all those risks mentioned previously. If you don’t want to be name flipped without your own chance to name flip back, the answer is to not post opens - not try to change what opens are.
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name flips are for sure dope. but it's not fair that for example edge accepts guts battle and throws some personals and name flips (which were hella funny btw) and guts just writes some random bars and throws em up.

you want see a live battle, where one dude is blindfolded and forced to just spit random bars at one in particular, and the other dude gets (however long, sometimes days) to think of personals and name flips.

and the whole idea of just not posting goes back to the problem i'm trying to address. nobody WILL post anything because they know'll they'll be at a massive disadvantage.

using another example of me and you, you DID post an open and i responded using name flips. which gave me an advantage. i still lost but it's not because i didn't have an advantage, it's because i'm not as good as you are at this point. i challenged myself and shot up. which most people wouldn't be willing to do. imagine how long your verse would have sat there if i didn't take it. look how long O_G's verses stayed up. (i had to take one myself just because i was sick of seeing them up there)

i get the issue with not wanting the voting to be blind, but for the things like (not wanting to read a shitty battle, or dig through shitty battles) there are other things like (somebody not getting the W just because of name value) basically this would eliminate specifically people with insane records that just aren't true. look at shodans record than look at bnas. it's fucking stupid. and only bans is going to do 4000 battles against noobs to get a record like that. this prevents that, which makes things more reputable in the end.
That’s the thing though, that would never happen in a live battle. You can’t compare it to that becsuse it’s completely different. Live matches the opponents are set before hand, there’s nothing that’s similar to someone who posts an open on LB. and that’s the point, opens are optional and by definition they carry all those risks mentioned previously. If you don’t want to be name flipped without your own chance to name flip back, the answer is to not post opens - not try to change what opens are.
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That’s the thing though, that would never happen in a live battle. You can’t compare it to that becsuse it’s completely different. Live matches the opponents are set before hand, there’s nothing that’s similar to someone who posts an open on LB. and that’s the point, opens are optional and by definition they carry all those risks mentioned previously. If you don’t want to be name flipped without your own chance to name flip back, the answer is to not post opens - not try to change what opens are.
i have to disagree. i've never been one to just accept things as they are just because they are. but i respect your opinion homie.
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That’s the thing though, that would never happen in a live battle. You can’t compare it to that becsuse it’s completely different. Live matches the opponents are set before hand, there’s nothing that’s similar to someone who posts an open on LB. and that’s the point, opens are optional and by definition they carry all those risks mentioned previously. If you don’t want to be name flipped without your own chance to name flip back, the answer is to not post opens - not try to change what opens are.
i have to disagree. i've never been one to just accept things as they are just because they are. but i respect your opinion homie.
 
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Maybe it would be more plausible if we were to make this anonymous battle system optional (like how blind drops are optional)
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Maybe it would be more plausible if we were to make this anonymous battle system optional (like how blind drops are optional)
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Maybe it would be more plausible if we were to make this anonymous battle system optional (like how blind drops are optional)
not a bad idea either.
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Maybe it would be more plausible if we were to make this anonymous battle system optional (like how blind drops are optional)
not a bad idea either.
 
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That’s the thing though, that would never happen in a live battle. You can’t compare it to that becsuse it’s completely different. Live matches the opponents are set before hand, there’s nothing that’s similar to someone who posts an open on LB. and that’s the point, opens are optional and by definition they carry all those risks mentioned previously. If you don’t want to be name flipped without your own chance to name flip back, the answer is to not post opens - not try to change what opens are.
You know what else doesn't happen in live battles? Someone rap battling out in the air to a single anonymous entity waiting for someone to accept it so they can absolutely shit flip the fuck out of them.

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not a bad idea either.
I just really like your idea tbh. Me and Tonic have talked about this before and I know you're not too big on the guy but I truly feel like he would love this idea.

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That’s the thing though, that would never happen in a live battle. You can’t compare it to that becsuse it’s completely different. Live matches the opponents are set before hand, there’s nothing that’s similar to someone who posts an open on LB. and that’s the point, opens are optional and by definition they carry all those risks mentioned previously. If you don’t want to be name flipped without your own chance to name flip back, the answer is to not post opens - not try to change what opens are.
You know what else doesn't happen in live battles? Someone rap battling out in the air to a single anonymous entity waiting for someone to accept it so they can absolutely shit flip the fuck out of them.

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not a bad idea either.
I just really like your idea tbh. Me and Tonic have talked about this before and I know you're not too big on the guy but I truly feel like he would love this idea.

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You know what else doesn't happen in live battles? Someone rap battling out in the air to a single anonymous entity waiting for someone to accept it so they can absolutely shit flip the fuck out of them.

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I just really like your idea tbh. Me and Tonic have talked about this before and I know you're not too big on the guy but I truly feel like he would love this idea.

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Exactly, that’s my point lol. An open battle on LB shares no similarities to how a live battle is structured.
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You know what else doesn't happen in live battles? Someone rap battling out in the air to a single anonymous entity waiting for someone to accept it so they can absolutely shit flip the fuck out of them.

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I just really like your idea tbh. Me and Tonic have talked about this before and I know you're not too big on the guy but I truly feel like he would love this idea.

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Exactly, that’s my point lol. An open battle on LB shares no similarities to how a live battle is structured.
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Exactly, that’s my point lol. An open battle on LB shares no similarities to how a live battle is structured.
I'm honestly all for this idea but it may or may not need some adjustments for it to become beneficial let alone doable; remaining optimistic about it though.
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Exactly, that’s my point lol. An open battle on LB shares no similarities to how a live battle is structured.
I'm honestly all for this idea but it may or may not need some adjustments for it to become beneficial let alone doable; remaining optimistic about it though.
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