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  #11  
Unread 11-25-2015, 01:06 AM
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Saying NOBLE and Pugz approve of *specifically IM'ing inactive LB members on Facebook to vote on your battle is misrepresentation. Point to where that is stated, or ask your source to confirm where that is stated. You're suggesting that we think it's okay for people to ask for specifically buddy votes which is not true. To make an argument that people asking for votes period will lead to buddy votes is one thing. To say we encourage it is something else. If you want to make the argument that it's stupid to allow people to share and promote their LB content outside of LB, feel free to do so. I can provide counter-arguments to that and discuss why we decided it is better for people to promote themselves on other sites and expose prospective new members to LB.
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Saying NOBLE and Pugz approve of *specifically IM'ing inactive LB members on Facebook to vote on your battle is misrepresentation. Point to where that is stated, or ask your source to confirm where that is stated. You're suggesting that we think it's okay for people to ask for specifically buddy votes which is not true. To make an argument that people asking for votes period will lead to buddy votes is one thing. To say we encourage it is something else. If you want to make the argument that it's stupid to allow people to share and promote their LB content outside of LB, feel free to do so. I can provide counter-arguments to that and discuss why we decided it is better for people to promote themselves on other sites and expose prospective new members to LB.
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Unread 11-25-2015, 01:22 AM
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Saying NOBLE and Pugz approve of *specifically IM'ing inactive LB members on Facebook to vote on your battle is misrepresentation. Point to where that is stated, or ask your source to confirm where that is stated. .
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Saying NOBLE and Pugz approve of *specifically IM'ing inactive LB members on Facebook to vote on your battle is misrepresentation. Point to where that is stated, or ask your source to confirm where that is stated. .
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Unread 11-25-2015, 12:15 PM
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who cares, it's not like LB can enforce the rules on facebook

even if it were punishable by permaban with no appeal on first offence, people would still do it because there's no way to know about it

if inactive members started voting on people's battles out of nowhere, it might raise some flags... but that's it
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who cares, it's not like LB can enforce the rules on facebook

even if it were punishable by permaban with no appeal on first offence, people would still do it because there's no way to know about it

if inactive members started voting on people's battles out of nowhere, it might raise some flags... but that's it
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Unread 11-25-2015, 12:17 PM
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who cares, it's not like LB can enforce the rules on facebook

even if it were punishable by permaban with no appeal on first offence, people would still do it because there's no way to know about it

if inactive members started voting on people's battles out of nowhere, it might raise some flags... but that's it
lol what u just said is retarded, u get 0 points. if there is no way to know about it , how did I just find 2Fuel doing it. U could use the same logic and say there is no way to know about ghostwriting or biting, still against the rules.
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who cares, it's not like LB can enforce the rules on facebook

even if it were punishable by permaban with no appeal on first offence, people would still do it because there's no way to know about it

if inactive members started voting on people's battles out of nowhere, it might raise some flags... but that's it
lol what u just said is retarded, u get 0 points. if there is no way to know about it , how did I just find 2Fuel doing it. U could use the same logic and say there is no way to know about ghostwriting or biting, still against the rules.
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Unread 11-25-2015, 03:06 PM
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I'm a fucking visionary. The FVC moderator has confessed to private messaging inactive LB members that have quit LB and been inactive for months, for votes. IS THIS WHO YOU WANT LEADING THE FVC PEOPLE?!
I PM'ed Joe Muggz to vote. He did. He voted for Row. Issue?
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I'm a fucking visionary. The FVC moderator has confessed to private messaging inactive LB members that have quit LB and been inactive for months, for votes. IS THIS WHO YOU WANT LEADING THE FVC PEOPLE?!
I PM'ed Joe Muggz to vote. He did. He voted for Row. Issue?
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I PM'ed Joe Muggz to vote. He did. He voted for Row. Issue?
and u pm'd skizzo and R-dragon who havent been on in months. ur fvc mod and being retarded. Look at the poll results, no one approves of this
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I PM'ed Joe Muggz to vote. He did. He voted for Row. Issue?
and u pm'd skizzo and R-dragon who havent been on in months. ur fvc mod and being retarded. Look at the poll results, no one approves of this
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Eitherway , how are you guys supposed to know whether someone IM'd an inactive member in FB and asked to vote for them ? they can do it like anytime and nobody would know about it. Wait , is mark Z a mod here ?
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Eitherway , how are you guys supposed to know whether someone IM'd an inactive member in FB and asked to vote for them ? they can do it like anytime and nobody would know about it. Wait , is mark Z a mod here ?
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What do you mean, @Subreal? Yes is winning in the poll. :S
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What do you mean, @Subreal? Yes is winning in the poll. :S
 
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Lol @NOBLE altering the poll. it was 0 yes, - 6 no. fucking sad
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Lol @NOBLE altering the poll. it was 0 yes, - 6 no. fucking sad
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Lol @ Falsely incriminating an admin for the sake of your own agenda. Fucking sad.
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Lol @ Falsely incriminating an admin for the sake of your own agenda. Fucking sad.
 
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