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Unread 01-03-2018, 11:34 AM
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It's the internet , nothing can be 100% true. This rule will limit creativity indubitably. This is from someone who gets personals that aren't true(but because one says it's true, it must be true) thrown at me every battle,
Saying you fucked someone's mom or something is completely different from saying a crew lost illmania when they didn't, and claiming you were in that crew
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It's the internet , nothing can be 100% true. This rule will limit creativity indubitably. This is from someone who gets personals that aren't true(but because one says it's true, it must be true) thrown at me every battle,
Saying you fucked someone's mom or something is completely different from saying a crew lost illmania when they didn't, and claiming you were in that crew
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Saying you fucked someone's mom or something is completely different from saying a crew lost illmania when they didn't, and claiming you were in that crew
Or biting daddio, paying for votes when you didn't. And ongoing for years.. But I suck it up.
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Saying you fucked someone's mom or something is completely different from saying a crew lost illmania when they didn't, and claiming you were in that crew
Or biting daddio, paying for votes when you didn't. And ongoing for years.. But I suck it up.
 
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Saying you fucked someone's mom or something is completely different from saying a crew lost illmania when they didn't, and claiming you were in that crew
Nick said he banned you in the OP, whats not adding up here?
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Nick said he banned you in the OP, whats not adding up here?
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Unread 01-03-2018, 11:37 AM
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Nick said he banned you in the OP, whats not adding up here?
Other mods unbanned me, because it's not justified.
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Unread 01-03-2018, 11:42 AM
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Other mods unbanned me, because it's not justified.
lol... I also had a solid laff when he called the site immature n likened a poster to donald trump calling him sexist for making a period joke @ tana. Getting hella liberal cuck vibes from all this shit.
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Other mods unbanned me, because it's not justified.
lol... I also had a solid laff when he called the site immature n likened a poster to donald trump calling him sexist for making a period joke @ tana. Getting hella liberal cuck vibes from all this shit.
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There's 0 problems with fake personals. It's common in battle rap
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lol... I also had a solid laff when he called the site immature n likened a poster to donald trump calling him sexist for making a period joke @ tana. Getting hella liberal cuck vibes from all this shit.
He's modding his own crew member's battle. literally all I did was comment on the battle that ACs won illmania, they didn't lose it, and I was in MM when Illmania happened.

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There's 0 problems with fake personals. It's common in battle rap
alright then, you were a member in multiville horror and you got 100-0'd by Bnas.

There was also a vid of u meeting up with Bnas in LA and you two confessed your love for eachother.
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lol... I also had a solid laff when he called the site immature n likened a poster to donald trump calling him sexist for making a period joke @ tana. Getting hella liberal cuck vibes from all this shit.
He's modding his own crew member's battle. literally all I did was comment on the battle that ACs won illmania, they didn't lose it, and I was in MM when Illmania happened.

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There's 0 problems with fake personals. It's common in battle rap
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I feel like Sub should've been allowed to say that the so called "personals" were bollocks.
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What you are doing, regarding the "battle in question", is strangle-holding it with your psuedo super injunction. It contains a fake personal...but no one is allowed to talk about it or make it known. You are passing this all off as a broader discussion. That's a separate issue. Even worse is that it's probably the premier member of your crew.

Regardless, the way to handle fake personals is to allow them to be discussed by external parties. If the personal is fake, and we can't discuss it, it is presumed as true, which in short means you can say whatever the fuck you want and it's cool until the battle ends.

You proposed a ban on fake personals to me in IMs. What's a fake personal? This situation is clear misinformation, but if I battled Tana and made a line about her lying about Skizzo and Rohan, the point of that line would be to aggravate and piss her off. I can't prove she's lying, nor would I even believe she was. If I say you fuck your dog, is that a fake personal? Hyperbole is everything in rap battling. Personals are rarely straight facts, but using statements and themes to hurt someone based on information obtained about them. It's a blue moon where a verse has an "exposed" kind of personal. Theres no enforcement.

In short....allow m to say Rai used a fake personal and allow Subreal to comment it, in an unbiased way, in the battle (as he did) and assess it case to case. Voters can then take that information, which is very relevant, into account when making their vote.
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What you are doing, regarding the "battle in question", is strangle-holding it with your psuedo super injunction. It contains a fake personal...but no one is allowed to talk about it or make it known. You are passing this all off as a broader discussion. That's a separate issue. Even worse is that it's probably the premier member of your crew.

Regardless, the way to handle fake personals is to allow them to be discussed by external parties. If the personal is fake, and we can't discuss it, it is presumed as true, which in short means you can say whatever the fuck you want and it's cool until the battle ends.

You proposed a ban on fake personals to me in IMs. What's a fake personal? This situation is clear misinformation, but if I battled Tana and made a line about her lying about Skizzo and Rohan, the point of that line would be to aggravate and piss her off. I can't prove she's lying, nor would I even believe she was. If I say you fuck your dog, is that a fake personal? Hyperbole is everything in rap battling. Personals are rarely straight facts, but using statements and themes to hurt someone based on information obtained about them. It's a blue moon where a verse has an "exposed" kind of personal. Theres no enforcement.

In short....allow m to say Rai used a fake personal and allow Subreal to comment it, in an unbiased way, in the battle (as he did) and assess it case to case. Voters can then take that information, which is very relevant, into account when making their vote.
 
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Uh, everyone knows that Bape is the premier member of our crew.
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