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Unread 01-29-2020, 01:00 PM
knyx knyx is on FIRE! 10+ wins in a row!knyx is on FIRE! 10+ wins in a row!
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this is dope. looking forward to the topical for sure
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Unread 01-29-2020, 01:00 PM   #21
 
knyx knyx is on FIRE! 10+ wins in a row!knyx is on FIRE! 10+ wins in a row!
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this is dope. looking forward to the topical for sure
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Unread 01-29-2020, 06:10 PM
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Awww shit.... Here we go again.
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Unread 01-29-2020, 06:16 PM
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I think at least we can all agree that LoD could only win an Illmania when their opponents were 2 weeks old.

1-2 isn't THAT embarrassing a crew battle record though......
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I think at least we can all agree that LoD could only win an Illmania when their opponents were 2 weeks old.

1-2 isn't THAT embarrassing a crew battle record though......
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Unread 01-29-2020, 06:27 PM
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I think at least we can all agree that LoD could only win an Illmania when their opponents were 2 weeks old.

1-2 isn't THAT embarrassing a crew battle record though......

more like if we show up lol
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I think at least we can all agree that LoD could only win an Illmania when their opponents were 2 weeks old.

1-2 isn't THAT embarrassing a crew battle record though......

more like if we show up lol
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Esso Vs Noir (Esso easy)


Celsius Vs GOOD GRIEF (Celsius 85 / 15%)


The Audio Battles

RULE Vs BizzyOne (RULE)

DETRI_MENTAL Vs FiNAL WoRD(unsure)


The Tag Team Battles

Fidel & 2FUEL Vs Edgeworth & Manhattan (Edge and many, 2FUEL is overrated and barely beat me and sax in the rag tourney)

Rieper & Kiwi Peewee Vs Rai & (Hard call, Rai and Rieper two of my faves so could go either way)


The Topical Battle

REZN Vs MadVerbs Vs Brayne Ded Vs Erupt(Erupt never seen this man take a miss step)


The Diss Track Battle

SPEECH Vs Punk Vs Kompz Vs Seul (Leanin Punk, not a huge dedsec guy but you gotta acknowledge his ability)
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Esso Vs Noir (Esso easy)


Celsius Vs GOOD GRIEF (Celsius 85 / 15%)


The Audio Battles

RULE Vs BizzyOne (RULE)

DETRI_MENTAL Vs FiNAL WoRD(unsure)


The Tag Team Battles

Fidel & 2FUEL Vs Edgeworth & Manhattan (Edge and many, 2FUEL is overrated and barely beat me and sax in the rag tourney)

Rieper & Kiwi Peewee Vs Rai & (Hard call, Rai and Rieper two of my faves so could go either way)


The Topical Battle

REZN Vs MadVerbs Vs Brayne Ded Vs Erupt(Erupt never seen this man take a miss step)


The Diss Track Battle

SPEECH Vs Punk Vs Kompz Vs Seul (Leanin Punk, not a huge dedsec guy but you gotta acknowledge his ability)
 
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Unread 01-30-2020, 12:52 PM
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There's more chance of Kobe showing up to that topical than Erupt.
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Unread 01-30-2020, 12:57 PM
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31 Won / 3 Lost
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437 Won / 75 Lost
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The Tag Team Battles

Fidel & 2FUEL Vs Edgeworth & Manhattan (Edge and many, 2FUEL is overrated and barely beat me and sax in the rag tourney)
LMFAO... the salt is real.Tag battle, you mean.




Aye, barely.

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The Tag Team Battles

Fidel & 2FUEL Vs Edgeworth & Manhattan (Edge and many, 2FUEL is overrated and barely beat me and sax in the rag tourney)
LMFAO... the salt is real.Tag battle, you mean.




Aye, barely.

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Aggo Aggo is on FIRE! 10+ wins in a row!Aggo is on FIRE! 10+ wins in a row!
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Barely scraped by
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Aggo Aggo is on FIRE! 10+ wins in a row!Aggo is on FIRE! 10+ wins in a row!
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4 Won / 0 Lost
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Esso Esso is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!Esso is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!Esso is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!
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104 Won / 19 Lost
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Esso Esso is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!Esso is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!Esso is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!
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Oh wow a Rai vs Rieper matchup. Never seen that before.
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