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Open up your Merriam Webster app and listen to the chick or dude pronounce every word.

Sure they sound REAL CLOSE . Off by a hair but its not a complete rhyme.

That one day when you said "Book" and "Buck" rhymed, I knew we were dealing with heavy accents
Lmao. Show me one hip hop song were every rhyme is a perfect rhyme/No slant rhymes.

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Open up your Merriam Webster app and listen to the chick or dude pronounce every word.

Sure they sound REAL CLOSE . Off by a hair but its not a complete rhyme.

That one day when you said "Book" and "Buck" rhymed, I knew we were dealing with heavy accents
Lmao. Show me one hip hop song were every rhyme is a perfect rhyme/No slant rhymes.

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Lmao. Show me one hip hop song were every rhyme is a perfect rhyme/No slant rhymes.

I'm not talking about hip hop songs specifically. As everyone in here mentioned, in audio text battling, etc you can get away with it but overall, is it an ACTUAL rhyme? No its not. We just let certain words slide when it comes to hip hop and battling. Thats why we refer to them as slants.
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Lmao. Show me one hip hop song were every rhyme is a perfect rhyme/No slant rhymes.

I'm not talking about hip hop songs specifically. As everyone in here mentioned, in audio text battling, etc you can get away with it but overall, is it an ACTUAL rhyme? No its not. We just let certain words slide when it comes to hip hop and battling. Thats why we refer to them as slants.
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I'm not talking about hip hop songs specifically. As everyone in here mentioned, in audio text battling, etc you can get away with it but overall, is it an ACTUAL rhyme? No its not. We just let certain words slide when it comes to hip hop and battling. Thats why we refer to them as slants.
I'm aware of that, fam. Slants rhymes were around before hip hop. William Yeats was one of the first to use slant rhymes in his poetry back in like the early 20th century.

The issue is, Cel's comment over me rhyming 'skulling' & 'pulling' in my opener saying they don't rhyme/docking points for it...

SKULLING THE PAIR AND FAPPING AT MASS
PULLING HIS HAIR AND SLAPPING HIS ASS

Granted, i've no issue w/ Cel over his pov but this does rhyme. If it's being used as a slant it rhymes.
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I'm not talking about hip hop songs specifically. As everyone in here mentioned, in audio text battling, etc you can get away with it but overall, is it an ACTUAL rhyme? No its not. We just let certain words slide when it comes to hip hop and battling. Thats why we refer to them as slants.
I'm aware of that, fam. Slants rhymes were around before hip hop. William Yeats was one of the first to use slant rhymes in his poetry back in like the early 20th century.

The issue is, Cel's comment over me rhyming 'skulling' & 'pulling' in my opener saying they don't rhyme/docking points for it...

SKULLING THE PAIR AND FAPPING AT MASS
PULLING HIS HAIR AND SLAPPING HIS ASS

Granted, i've no issue w/ Cel over his pov but this does rhyme. If it's being used as a slant it rhymes.
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"Original English" Pronunciation is something that is nonexistent in Northern America.

What i find funny is even now, at this stage, 13/14 years of LB and fuckers still saying "That doesn't rhyme when i read it"... as if i've not got the basics of writing down already lol.

Ya'll pronounce things completely differently than we do over here... so who's correct? Both lol. Ya gotta stop expecting folks to write how you pronounce words.

Whats more is that it isn't even a mad reach or stretch as the 'ULL' of both words were utilised in the scheme they were in.



All four of these rhyme together when i say them.

Pull, Full, Dull, Hull, Skull... All rhyme.

The words are usually written out how theyre pronounced right beside the definition, in most dictionaries. Though, bar aside, you didnt lose 92 percent of the vote due to one slant. I thought it threw off that particular punchline that is all
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"Original English" Pronunciation is something that is nonexistent in Northern America.

What i find funny is even now, at this stage, 13/14 years of LB and fuckers still saying "That doesn't rhyme when i read it"... as if i've not got the basics of writing down already lol.

Ya'll pronounce things completely differently than we do over here... so who's correct? Both lol. Ya gotta stop expecting folks to write how you pronounce words.

Whats more is that it isn't even a mad reach or stretch as the 'ULL' of both words were utilised in the scheme they were in.



All four of these rhyme together when i say them.

Pull, Full, Dull, Hull, Skull... All rhyme.

The words are usually written out how theyre pronounced right beside the definition, in most dictionaries. Though, bar aside, you didnt lose 92 percent of the vote due to one slant. I thought it threw off that particular punchline that is all
 
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The words are usually written out how theyre pronounced right beside the definition, in most dictionaries. Though, bar aside, you didnt lose 92 percent of the vote due to one slant. I thought it threw off that particular punchline that is all
I know... i didn’t make this thread lol.

Pulling, Skulling still work 😜
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The words are usually written out how theyre pronounced right beside the definition, in most dictionaries. Though, bar aside, you didnt lose 92 percent of the vote due to one slant. I thought it threw off that particular punchline that is all
I know... i didn’t make this thread lol.

Pulling, Skulling still work 😜
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Dictionary definitions only go so far, technically there's no (perfect) rhyme for Orange but Eminem makes a compelling case.
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Dictionary definitions only go so far, technically there's no (perfect) rhyme for Orange but Eminem makes a compelling case.
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If Americans on the site get away with rhyming wheel/kill, and also wordplays like pin/pen, then 2FUEL deserves to have pulling/skulling. Does it rhyme? Not in my accent. Could it easily rhyme in someone else's accent? Yes. That being said, accent-leeway can only go so far before shit starts getting out of hand. I know that book/buck rhymes in an Irish accent, but the words are so clearly different that its FUEL's responsibility to not go there.

I've had the same thing, for instance slant/aren't and stand/hanged rhyme (or are at least assonant) in my accent but most North Americans won't buy it. imo if the vowels are the same (i.e. pull/skull or stand/hanged) then it makes sense they could rhyme in someone else's accent, so you should give them the benefit of the doubt. If the words are spelt and pronounced nothing alike (book/buck) then unless you can easily and directly imagine how they'd be pronounced to rhyme, I think its fair enough to criticise the rhyme.

NOTE: Wordplay is a bit different. In a wordplay the two words should sound near- or completely-identical, so I think much less leeway should be given, and if you're going to attempt a wordplay, write it to work in a commonly-known accent.
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If Americans on the site get away with rhyming wheel/kill, and also wordplays like pin/pen, then 2FUEL deserves to have pulling/skulling. Does it rhyme? Not in my accent. Could it easily rhyme in someone else's accent? Yes. That being said, accent-leeway can only go so far before shit starts getting out of hand. I know that book/buck rhymes in an Irish accent, but the words are so clearly different that its FUEL's responsibility to not go there.

I've had the same thing, for instance slant/aren't and stand/hanged rhyme (or are at least assonant) in my accent but most North Americans won't buy it. imo if the vowels are the same (i.e. pull/skull or stand/hanged) then it makes sense they could rhyme in someone else's accent, so you should give them the benefit of the doubt. If the words are spelt and pronounced nothing alike (book/buck) then unless you can easily and directly imagine how they'd be pronounced to rhyme, I think its fair enough to criticise the rhyme.

NOTE: Wordplay is a bit different. In a wordplay the two words should sound near- or completely-identical, so I think much less leeway should be given, and if you're going to attempt a wordplay, write it to work in a commonly-known accent.
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Curious as 2Fuel complained about my vote on the finals battle.. imo even with accent its still wrong..accents can be lost over time but the original English pronunciation(as would be written out in a dictionary) stays the same.

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If you type the two words on dictionary.com ...its not even close.
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They Don't Even Have The Meaning Of Incognoscibility.

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There Are Numerous Perfect Rhymes For Awe Ranch [American]

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To me it doesn't really rhyme and I'd consider it a major slant. You'd could still get away with it in a text or audio battle.

People get away with rhyming "man" with "smack" and "wheel" with "kill" so why tf not right?

How TF Does Man Rhyme With Smack?
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Curious as 2Fuel complained about my vote on the finals battle.. imo even with accent its still wrong..accents can be lost over time but the original English pronunciation(as would be written out in a dictionary) stays the same.

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If you type the two words on dictionary.com ...its not even close.
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Dictionary definitions only go so far, technically there's no (perfect) rhyme for Orange but Eminem makes a compelling case.
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To me it doesn't really rhyme and I'd consider it a major slant. You'd could still get away with it in a text or audio battle.

People get away with rhyming "man" with "smack" and "wheel" with "kill" so why tf not right?

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nop but nice try n' if you mess up again I'm gonna make you cry
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nop but nice try n' if you mess up again I'm gonna make you cry
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If Americans on the site get away with rhyming wheel/kill, and also wordplays like pin/pen, then 2FUEL deserves to have pulling/skulling. Does it rhyme? Not in my accent. Could it easily rhyme in someone else's accent? Yes. That being said, accent-leeway can only go so far before shit starts getting out of hand. I know that book/buck rhymes in an Irish accent, but the words are so clearly different that its FUEL's responsibility to not go there.

I've had the same thing, for instance slant/aren't and stand/hanged rhyme (or are at least assonant) in my accent but most North Americans won't buy it. imo if the vowels are the same (i.e. pull/skull or stand/hanged) then it makes sense they could rhyme in someone else's accent, so you should give them the benefit of the doubt. If the words are spelt and pronounced nothing alike (book/buck) then unless you can easily and directly imagine how they'd be pronounced to rhyme, I think its fair enough to criticise the rhyme.

NOTE: Wordplay is a bit different. In a wordplay the two words should sound near- or completely-identical, so I think much less leeway should be given, and if you're going to attempt a wordplay, write it to work in a commonly-known accent.
Word... though, over here. We pronounce 'book' as 'buck'. We don't say bOOOOOOk... *The 'buck' i'm reading is pretty good*... It's how it's pronounced over here. I've never heard anyone, ever pronounce 'book' with an "Ewww" stretch on the oo's in it.
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If Americans on the site get away with rhyming wheel/kill, and also wordplays like pin/pen, then 2FUEL deserves to have pulling/skulling. Does it rhyme? Not in my accent. Could it easily rhyme in someone else's accent? Yes. That being said, accent-leeway can only go so far before shit starts getting out of hand. I know that book/buck rhymes in an Irish accent, but the words are so clearly different that its FUEL's responsibility to not go there.

I've had the same thing, for instance slant/aren't and stand/hanged rhyme (or are at least assonant) in my accent but most North Americans won't buy it. imo if the vowels are the same (i.e. pull/skull or stand/hanged) then it makes sense they could rhyme in someone else's accent, so you should give them the benefit of the doubt. If the words are spelt and pronounced nothing alike (book/buck) then unless you can easily and directly imagine how they'd be pronounced to rhyme, I think its fair enough to criticise the rhyme.

NOTE: Wordplay is a bit different. In a wordplay the two words should sound near- or completely-identical, so I think much less leeway should be given, and if you're going to attempt a wordplay, write it to work in a commonly-known accent.
Word... though, over here. We pronounce 'book' as 'buck'. We don't say bOOOOOOk... *The 'buck' i'm reading is pretty good*... It's how it's pronounced over here. I've never heard anyone, ever pronounce 'book' with an "Ewww" stretch on the oo's in it.

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