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So, you don't want to give an opinion? Huh?

Anyways, "privilege" is specific to a person and their situation. One white person's opportunities may be entirely different from another white person's. Or any race or situation.

It's an easier topic to "rebuttal" cause you need to gauge the crazy. Someone may choose to go down the police shootings / prison percentages sort of route, which has a bit more meat and some longer rooting discussions. Some might go down the MTV Encoded route and be insulted that employers are less likely to employ someone with a "black name" like Shaneequa or Sharkisha. All of it can be rebuttaled because they are at best sweeping generalisations, but some are more insane than others in the belief. For example Francesca Ramsey and Philogynoir are examples of batshit crazy racists.
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So, you don't want to give an opinion? Huh?

Anyways, "privilege" is specific to a person and their situation. One white person's opportunities may be entirely different from another white person's. Or any race or situation.

It's an easier topic to "rebuttal" cause you need to gauge the crazy. Someone may choose to go down the police shootings / prison percentages sort of route, which has a bit more meat and some longer rooting discussions. Some might go down the MTV Encoded route and be insulted that employers are less likely to employ someone with a "black name" like Shaneequa or Sharkisha. All of it can be rebuttaled because they are at best sweeping generalisations, but some are more insane than others in the belief. For example Francesca Ramsey and Philogynoir are examples of batshit crazy racists.
 
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Idk, I think it might be the opposite. For example, Say Slim jesus was black, I doubt he'd get clowned or recieve as much hate as he did, especially standing there flaunting straps with a group of black people.it'd prolly just be known as another dope song up there with Hot N**ga. The come.up is for sure getting easier white folks though...just like in football when it was all white..now look at who the majority of the players are.
I agree with you about Slim Jesus...that he may have been taken more seriously if he was black making the same music. I think this is where the concept of intersectionality comes in-that a person can be privileged in some ways but not in others.
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So, you don't want to give an opinion? Huh?

Anyways, "privilege" is specific to a person and their situation. One white person's opportunities may be entirely different from another white person's. Or any race or situation.

It's an easier topic to "rebuttal" cause you need to gauge the crazy. Someone may choose to go down the police shootings / prison percentages sort of route, which has a bit more meat and some longer rooting discussions. Some might go down the MTV Encoded route and be insulted that employers are less likely to employ someone with a "black name" like Shaneequa or Sharkisha. All of it can be rebuttaled because they are at best sweeping generalisations, but some are more insane than others in the belief. For example Francesca Ramsey and Philogynoir are examples of batshit crazy racists.
According to Google:
priv·i·lege
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noun
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a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group of people.
"education is a right, not a privilege"
synonyms: advantage, benefit;
Do you mind explaining why you say privilege only applies to a person? So many simple things are considered to be "white privilege," that someone trying to argue it wouldn't need to go down the route of police shootings or incarceration rates. The simple fact that no matter what race you are, when you go to school, you will learn mostly about white history and white accomplishments...or the fact that if you get pulled over, you can be sure that it's not because of your race...simple things like that are considered manifestations of white privilege.
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Idk, I think it might be the opposite. For example, Say Slim jesus was black, I doubt he'd get clowned or recieve as much hate as he did, especially standing there flaunting straps with a group of black people.it'd prolly just be known as another dope song up there with Hot N**ga. The come.up is for sure getting easier white folks though...just like in football when it was all white..now look at who the majority of the players are.
I agree with you about Slim Jesus...that he may have been taken more seriously if he was black making the same music. I think this is where the concept of intersectionality comes in-that a person can be privileged in some ways but not in others.
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So, you don't want to give an opinion? Huh?

Anyways, "privilege" is specific to a person and their situation. One white person's opportunities may be entirely different from another white person's. Or any race or situation.

It's an easier topic to "rebuttal" cause you need to gauge the crazy. Someone may choose to go down the police shootings / prison percentages sort of route, which has a bit more meat and some longer rooting discussions. Some might go down the MTV Encoded route and be insulted that employers are less likely to employ someone with a "black name" like Shaneequa or Sharkisha. All of it can be rebuttaled because they are at best sweeping generalisations, but some are more insane than others in the belief. For example Francesca Ramsey and Philogynoir are examples of batshit crazy racists.
According to Google:
priv·i·lege
ˈpriv(ə)lij/Submit
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a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group of people.
"education is a right, not a privilege"
synonyms: advantage, benefit;
Do you mind explaining why you say privilege only applies to a person? So many simple things are considered to be "white privilege," that someone trying to argue it wouldn't need to go down the route of police shootings or incarceration rates. The simple fact that no matter what race you are, when you go to school, you will learn mostly about white history and white accomplishments...or the fact that if you get pulled over, you can be sure that it's not because of your race...simple things like that are considered manifestations of white privilege.
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I agree with you about Slim Jesus...that he may have been taken more seriously if he was black making the same music. I think this is where the concept of intersectionality comes in-that a person can be privileged in some ways but not in others.

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a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group of people.
"education is a right, not a privilege"
synonyms: advantage, benefit;
Do you mind explaining why you say privilege only applies to a person? So many simple things are considered to be "white privilege," that someone trying to argue it wouldn't need to go down the route of police shootings or incarceration rates. The simple fact that no matter what race you are, when you go to school, you will learn mostly about white history and white accomplishments...or the fact that if you get pulled over, you can be sure that it's not because of your race...simple things like that are considered manifestations of white privilege.
You don't benefit from say "not being harassed by the cops" if you're white and frequently get harassed by the cops. You don't benefit from "the gender wage gap" if you earn less than the average female in your field.

The reason you learn mostly about white history and white accomplishments is because there are simply more of those. Throughout a lot of invention, art and religion, typically the kind of topics covered in non-US education, black people were an oppressed minority and their ability to invent, create art or influence religion was greatly depreciated, so there were less noteworthy moments than there were from white people.

"When you get pulled over, you can be sure it's not of your race". What if it's because of my age? In this context, why is race such a massive huge deal? What about age privilege? Not a big deal eh? No MTV Encoded videos on that eh? Why not? If you were to check really any numbers, if there are any available, people getting pulled over are MUCH more likely to be of a younger age compared to being pulled over for a racially motivated thing. Also things like the type of car you drive, your dress sense, how you are driving. These factors rank waaay before race in the reasons people get pulled over. "You can be sure it's not because of your race", that is true, sort of. But you can't be sure that it IS because of your race. A lot of the time, if a black man is pulled over frequently, it'll be blamed on his race. Of course, cops must be racist. Why then, if a white person is pulled over equal or more times throughout the same time frame, is he in receipt of "white privilege"? He got pulled over more, where's the racial injustice in that?

The problem with "white privilege" is that it's saying "white people have these privileges because they are white" (would also like to interject that many who believe white privilege is a thing don't believe black privilege is a thing). White people, as a group, DON'T have those privileges. People get pulled over constantly in some neighbourhoods whilst never committing any crimes. If people wanted to extend white privilege to "SOME white people" instead of "white people" then sure, I could accept that...but in that case why the fuck would we be talking about it because SOME black people are very fortunate and privileged as well.
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I agree with you about Slim Jesus...that he may have been taken more seriously if he was black making the same music. I think this is where the concept of intersectionality comes in-that a person can be privileged in some ways but not in others.

According to Google:
priv·i·lege
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a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group of people.
"education is a right, not a privilege"
synonyms: advantage, benefit;
Do you mind explaining why you say privilege only applies to a person? So many simple things are considered to be "white privilege," that someone trying to argue it wouldn't need to go down the route of police shootings or incarceration rates. The simple fact that no matter what race you are, when you go to school, you will learn mostly about white history and white accomplishments...or the fact that if you get pulled over, you can be sure that it's not because of your race...simple things like that are considered manifestations of white privilege.
You don't benefit from say "not being harassed by the cops" if you're white and frequently get harassed by the cops. You don't benefit from "the gender wage gap" if you earn less than the average female in your field.

The reason you learn mostly about white history and white accomplishments is because there are simply more of those. Throughout a lot of invention, art and religion, typically the kind of topics covered in non-US education, black people were an oppressed minority and their ability to invent, create art or influence religion was greatly depreciated, so there were less noteworthy moments than there were from white people.

"When you get pulled over, you can be sure it's not of your race". What if it's because of my age? In this context, why is race such a massive huge deal? What about age privilege? Not a big deal eh? No MTV Encoded videos on that eh? Why not? If you were to check really any numbers, if there are any available, people getting pulled over are MUCH more likely to be of a younger age compared to being pulled over for a racially motivated thing. Also things like the type of car you drive, your dress sense, how you are driving. These factors rank waaay before race in the reasons people get pulled over. "You can be sure it's not because of your race", that is true, sort of. But you can't be sure that it IS because of your race. A lot of the time, if a black man is pulled over frequently, it'll be blamed on his race. Of course, cops must be racist. Why then, if a white person is pulled over equal or more times throughout the same time frame, is he in receipt of "white privilege"? He got pulled over more, where's the racial injustice in that?

The problem with "white privilege" is that it's saying "white people have these privileges because they are white" (would also like to interject that many who believe white privilege is a thing don't believe black privilege is a thing). White people, as a group, DON'T have those privileges. People get pulled over constantly in some neighbourhoods whilst never committing any crimes. If people wanted to extend white privilege to "SOME white people" instead of "white people" then sure, I could accept that...but in that case why the fuck would we be talking about it because SOME black people are very fortunate and privileged as well.
 
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You don't benefit from say "not being harassed by the cops" if you're white and frequently get harassed by the cops. You don't benefit from "the gender wage gap" if you earn less than the average female in your field.
It's true that there are white people who get harassed by cops...but do they get harassed by cops BECAUSE they are white? If not, that could be considered a benefit/privilege when other minorities don't have the same benefit.

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The reason you learn mostly about white history and white accomplishments is because there are simply more of those. Throughout a lot of invention, art and religion, typically the kind of topics covered in non-US education, black people were an oppressed minority and their ability to invent, create art or influence religion was greatly depreciated, so there were less noteworthy moments than there were from white people.
How can you be sure that there are more accomplishments by whites throughout history? Is it because that's what you've learned? Is it that others haven't accomplished as much, or we just haven't learned as much about others' accomplishments? Blacks were only enslaved (by whites) for about 400 years. That period represents only a sliver of their entire history. Surely that can't explain the reason why we know so little about black accomplishments. What about all the millenia before they were enslaved?

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"When you get pulled over, you can be sure it's not of your race". What if it's because of my age? In this context, why is race such a massive huge deal? What about age privilege? Not a big deal eh? No MTV Encoded videos on that eh? Why not?
If people were getting pulled over or harassed on the simple basis of their age, that is a problem...and it would be a privilege to those who don't have to worry about that. Let's say we're both 22. We can both get pulled over for our age (if that were a thing), but in addition to that, I'm also more likely to get pulled over because I'm black. That's one less thing for you to worry about, and even though you can get pulled over for a number of other reasons, the fact that getting pulled over because you are white is not one of them would be considered white privilege.

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If you were to check really any numbers, if there are any available, people getting pulled over are MUCH more likely to be of a younger age compared to being pulled over for a racially motivated thing. Also things like the type of car you drive, your dress sense, how you are driving. These factors rank waaay before race in the reasons people get pulled over.
You're not even sure if there are numbers available showing younger people are much likely to be pulled over, and even if those numbers exist and you are right, that doesn't prove that it is because they are younger. Conversely, numbers showing black people are more likely to be pulled over doesn't necessarily prove they are pulled over because they are black either. I've personally never had anyone tell me they got pulled over because they think the cop hates young people..so I'm not sure how prevalent that is compared to people who feel they are harassed by cops because of their race.
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"You can be sure it's not because of your race", that is true, sort of. But you can't be sure that it IS because of your race. A lot of the time, if a black man is pulled over frequently, it'll be blamed on his race. Of course, cops must be racist. Why then, if a white person is pulled over equal or more times throughout the same time frame, is he in receipt of "white privilege"? He got pulled over more, where's the racial injustice in that?
I agree that it's subjective...if that's where you're getting at. No one can look inside any officer's brain and pinpoint the exact racist neuron triggered across its synapse at that specific time to prove the officer pulled them over because of their race. I don't think it's about how often you're pulled over so much as WHY you are pulled over. A white person can be pulled over a million times, and if not one of those times is because they are white, it's still a form of privilege.
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The problem with "white privilege" is that it's saying "white people have these privileges because they are white" (would also like to interject that many who believe white privilege is a thing don't believe black privilege is a thing). White people, as a group, DON'T have those privileges. People get pulled over constantly in some neighbourhoods whilst never committing any crimes. If people wanted to extend white privilege to "SOME white people" instead of "white people" then sure, I could accept that...but in that case why the fuck would we be talking about it because SOME black people are very fortunate and privileged as well.
I don't think the people that say there is white privilege are saying it's an absolute thing where if you are white you will never get pulled over for any reason whatsoever. You could be pulled over because you have tattoos or match a description or any number of other reasons including the ones you have mentioned.
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You don't benefit from say "not being harassed by the cops" if you're white and frequently get harassed by the cops. You don't benefit from "the gender wage gap" if you earn less than the average female in your field.
It's true that there are white people who get harassed by cops...but do they get harassed by cops BECAUSE they are white? If not, that could be considered a benefit/privilege when other minorities don't have the same benefit.

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The reason you learn mostly about white history and white accomplishments is because there are simply more of those. Throughout a lot of invention, art and religion, typically the kind of topics covered in non-US education, black people were an oppressed minority and their ability to invent, create art or influence religion was greatly depreciated, so there were less noteworthy moments than there were from white people.
How can you be sure that there are more accomplishments by whites throughout history? Is it because that's what you've learned? Is it that others haven't accomplished as much, or we just haven't learned as much about others' accomplishments? Blacks were only enslaved (by whites) for about 400 years. That period represents only a sliver of their entire history. Surely that can't explain the reason why we know so little about black accomplishments. What about all the millenia before they were enslaved?

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"When you get pulled over, you can be sure it's not of your race". What if it's because of my age? In this context, why is race such a massive huge deal? What about age privilege? Not a big deal eh? No MTV Encoded videos on that eh? Why not?
If people were getting pulled over or harassed on the simple basis of their age, that is a problem...and it would be a privilege to those who don't have to worry about that. Let's say we're both 22. We can both get pulled over for our age (if that were a thing), but in addition to that, I'm also more likely to get pulled over because I'm black. That's one less thing for you to worry about, and even though you can get pulled over for a number of other reasons, the fact that getting pulled over because you are white is not one of them would be considered white privilege.

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If you were to check really any numbers, if there are any available, people getting pulled over are MUCH more likely to be of a younger age compared to being pulled over for a racially motivated thing. Also things like the type of car you drive, your dress sense, how you are driving. These factors rank waaay before race in the reasons people get pulled over.
You're not even sure if there are numbers available showing younger people are much likely to be pulled over, and even if those numbers exist and you are right, that doesn't prove that it is because they are younger. Conversely, numbers showing black people are more likely to be pulled over doesn't necessarily prove they are pulled over because they are black either. I've personally never had anyone tell me they got pulled over because they think the cop hates young people..so I'm not sure how prevalent that is compared to people who feel they are harassed by cops because of their race.
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"You can be sure it's not because of your race", that is true, sort of. But you can't be sure that it IS because of your race. A lot of the time, if a black man is pulled over frequently, it'll be blamed on his race. Of course, cops must be racist. Why then, if a white person is pulled over equal or more times throughout the same time frame, is he in receipt of "white privilege"? He got pulled over more, where's the racial injustice in that?
I agree that it's subjective...if that's where you're getting at. No one can look inside any officer's brain and pinpoint the exact racist neuron triggered across its synapse at that specific time to prove the officer pulled them over because of their race. I don't think it's about how often you're pulled over so much as WHY you are pulled over. A white person can be pulled over a million times, and if not one of those times is because they are white, it's still a form of privilege.
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The problem with "white privilege" is that it's saying "white people have these privileges because they are white" (would also like to interject that many who believe white privilege is a thing don't believe black privilege is a thing). White people, as a group, DON'T have those privileges. People get pulled over constantly in some neighbourhoods whilst never committing any crimes. If people wanted to extend white privilege to "SOME white people" instead of "white people" then sure, I could accept that...but in that case why the fuck would we be talking about it because SOME black people are very fortunate and privileged as well.
I don't think the people that say there is white privilege are saying it's an absolute thing where if you are white you will never get pulled over for any reason whatsoever. You could be pulled over because you have tattoos or match a description or any number of other reasons including the ones you have mentioned.
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It's true that there are white people who get harassed by cops...but do they get harassed by cops BECAUSE they are white?
Let's say SWAGGA LEE!! was OFFICER LEE, and Officer Lee was patrolling a predominantly black neighborhood that had a high amount of drug traffic. And most of the buyers were white but almost no white people lived in the area. Would Officer Lee give a white person a second look if he came across one? Because yes, Officer Lee, white people are targeted by police under that circumstance.

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How can you be sure that there are more accomplishments by whites throughout history? Is it because that's what you've learned? Is it that others haven't accomplished as much, or we just haven't learned as much about others' accomplishments? Blacks were only enslaved (by whites) for about 400 years. That period represents only a sliver of their entire history. Surely that can't explain the reason why we know so little about black accomplishments. What about all the millenia before they were enslaved?
There were black civilizations that contributed quite a bit to early man. However, I've read extensively into certain periods and places of African history. And watched a few unbiased documentaries on the European colonization of Africa. My understanding is that much of black Africa is and was not conducive for large civilizations and that the European's building large cities is what creates much of the disease and starvation today. So Africans were living in a way that best suited their environment but also gave less room or need for inventions. As well as, other areas became trade hubs and along the Silk Road most ideas and knowledge were past. And naturally, who ever controlled key geographic locations would inherently have more information and goods at their disposal. The Greeks, The Muslim empire, and even the European renaissance owes a great deal of their accomplishments to access and ownership of the Silk Road and other trade routes.

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If people were getting pulled over or harassed on the simple basis of their age, that is a problem...and it would be a privilege to those who don't have to worry about that. Let's say we're both 22. We can both get pulled over for our age (if that were a thing), but in addition to that, I'm also more likely to get pulled over because I'm black.
This hypothetical doesn't make the age discrimination hypothetical any less true. Also, you don't know if you're being pulled over cuz you're black. It could be because of your age or another reason. That's just an assumption you made. I've read black males speed more often than many other groups, idk. Just as likely as your assumption.

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That's one less thing for you to worry about, and even though you can get pulled over for a number of other reasons, the fact that getting pulled over because you are white is not one of them would be considered white privilege.
Again, an assumption that you're pulled over for being black and another assumption white people are never pulled over for being white. I already gave one example why a white person would be pulled over another is if there's a description for a white male commiting a crime. I've been pulled over cuz a white male commited a crime near by many times, were all or any of those instances racist?

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Conversely, numbers showing black people are more likely to be pulled over doesn't necessarily prove they are pulled over because they are black either.
Well, if black people are pulled over more than other groups someone would argue, true or not, they commit more crimes. And if not all white people are given white privilege then it doesn't exist.

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A white person can be pulled over a million times, and if not one of those times is because they are white, it's still a form of privilege.
I think if a white person is pulled over that much it proves there's no privilege in being white and it makes your entire argument invalid honestly. I have 6 cousins including myself that's been to prison, not jail, actual prison. And every white friend from my hood, about 20 of us, have all been to prison. I find white privilege to be laughable. And white privilege means you benefit solely based on your skin color. That's an absolute, so either it's true 100% or it's a false belief.

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White privilege is the concept white people are given preferential treatment by the police and government. By very definition it must be a universal absolute to be a truth. As the concept purely relies on one idea, that "white people are treated differently by the police and government". Which is observably false. As universally, white people are not afforded the same treatment or access to quality representation. Wether it be legally or politically. Thus, this is also demonstrably false by the white people who go to prison, fight in wars and go to college verse those that don't. White privilege is a false concept. Much of what's considered white privilege is actually class privilege and many mistakenly confuse the two. Another mistake many proponents of white privilege make are confusing a cop's or someone's personal racism with white privilege. Yes, a cop may pull you over cuz you're black but that's not white privilege. White privilege does not exist. It doesn't mean blacks aren't unfairly treated, it just means 'you' are wrong.

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It's true that there are white people who get harassed by cops...but do they get harassed by cops BECAUSE they are white?
Let's say SWAGGA LEE!! was OFFICER LEE, and Officer Lee was patrolling a predominantly black neighborhood that had a high amount of drug traffic. And most of the buyers were white but almost no white people lived in the area. Would Officer Lee give a white person a second look if he came across one? Because yes, Officer Lee, white people are targeted by police under that circumstance.

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How can you be sure that there are more accomplishments by whites throughout history? Is it because that's what you've learned? Is it that others haven't accomplished as much, or we just haven't learned as much about others' accomplishments? Blacks were only enslaved (by whites) for about 400 years. That period represents only a sliver of their entire history. Surely that can't explain the reason why we know so little about black accomplishments. What about all the millenia before they were enslaved?
There were black civilizations that contributed quite a bit to early man. However, I've read extensively into certain periods and places of African history. And watched a few unbiased documentaries on the European colonization of Africa. My understanding is that much of black Africa is and was not conducive for large civilizations and that the European's building large cities is what creates much of the disease and starvation today. So Africans were living in a way that best suited their environment but also gave less room or need for inventions. As well as, other areas became trade hubs and along the Silk Road most ideas and knowledge were past. And naturally, who ever controlled key geographic locations would inherently have more information and goods at their disposal. The Greeks, The Muslim empire, and even the European renaissance owes a great deal of their accomplishments to access and ownership of the Silk Road and other trade routes.

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If people were getting pulled over or harassed on the simple basis of their age, that is a problem...and it would be a privilege to those who don't have to worry about that. Let's say we're both 22. We can both get pulled over for our age (if that were a thing), but in addition to that, I'm also more likely to get pulled over because I'm black.
This hypothetical doesn't make the age discrimination hypothetical any less true. Also, you don't know if you're being pulled over cuz you're black. It could be because of your age or another reason. That's just an assumption you made. I've read black males speed more often than many other groups, idk. Just as likely as your assumption.

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That's one less thing for you to worry about, and even though you can get pulled over for a number of other reasons, the fact that getting pulled over because you are white is not one of them would be considered white privilege.
Again, an assumption that you're pulled over for being black and another assumption white people are never pulled over for being white. I already gave one example why a white person would be pulled over another is if there's a description for a white male commiting a crime. I've been pulled over cuz a white male commited a crime near by many times, were all or any of those instances racist?

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Conversely, numbers showing black people are more likely to be pulled over doesn't necessarily prove they are pulled over because they are black either.
Well, if black people are pulled over more than other groups someone would argue, true or not, they commit more crimes. And if not all white people are given white privilege then it doesn't exist.

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A white person can be pulled over a million times, and if not one of those times is because they are white, it's still a form of privilege.
I think if a white person is pulled over that much it proves there's no privilege in being white and it makes your entire argument invalid honestly. I have 6 cousins including myself that's been to prison, not jail, actual prison. And every white friend from my hood, about 20 of us, have all been to prison. I find white privilege to be laughable. And white privilege means you benefit solely based on your skin color. That's an absolute, so either it's true 100% or it's a false belief.

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My closing argument:

White privilege is the concept white people are given preferential treatment by the police and government. By very definition it must be a universal absolute to be a truth. As the concept purely relies on one idea, that "white people are treated differently by the police and government". Which is observably false. As universally, white people are not afforded the same treatment or access to quality representation. Wether it be legally or politically. Thus, this is also demonstrably false by the white people who go to prison, fight in wars and go to college verse those that don't. White privilege is a false concept. Much of what's considered white privilege is actually class privilege and many mistakenly confuse the two. Another mistake many proponents of white privilege make are confusing a cop's or someone's personal racism with white privilege. Yes, a cop may pull you over cuz you're black but that's not white privilege. White privilege does not exist. It doesn't mean blacks aren't unfairly treated, it just means 'you' are wrong.

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