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  #81  
Unread 07-17-2013, 09:03 AM
Askari Askari is on FIRE! 10+ wins in a row!Askari is on FIRE! 10+ wins in a row!
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If you research that case you'd find out she actually pulled a gun out and shot her husband during an argument. Stop falling for propaganda.
Nobody was injured; the official report stated she fired a shot into the wall that ricocheted into the ceiling.

She had a restraining order against him already which suggests he was violent/abusive. She was also offered a 3 year sentence in a plea bargain which she refused as she felt she the Stand Your Ground law would be a more than adequate defence. Unfortunately she lost (even though nobody was injured); the only option for a judge from there is to sentence either 10-20-L under the 1999 bill which aimed to toughen up on gun crime. How she got charged with aggravated assault with a fire arm I'll never know since nobody was physically harmed.

The real sticking point is: in her case she fired a shot into the wall because she felt the man - who she had a restraining order against for domestic abuse - was threatening her, nobody was harmed and she got 20 years; a young man was killed by a vigilante neighbourhood watchman - who also claimed to feel threatened - and he got off.

Last edited by Askari; 07-17-2013 at 09:06 AM.
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Unread 07-17-2013, 09:03 AM   #81
 
Askari Askari is on FIRE! 10+ wins in a row!Askari is on FIRE! 10+ wins in a row!
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If you research that case you'd find out she actually pulled a gun out and shot her husband during an argument. Stop falling for propaganda.
Nobody was injured; the official report stated she fired a shot into the wall that ricocheted into the ceiling.

She had a restraining order against him already which suggests he was violent/abusive. She was also offered a 3 year sentence in a plea bargain which she refused as she felt she the Stand Your Ground law would be a more than adequate defence. Unfortunately she lost (even though nobody was injured); the only option for a judge from there is to sentence either 10-20-L under the 1999 bill which aimed to toughen up on gun crime. How she got charged with aggravated assault with a fire arm I'll never know since nobody was physically harmed.

The real sticking point is: in her case she fired a shot into the wall because she felt the man - who she had a restraining order against for domestic abuse - was threatening her, nobody was harmed and she got 20 years; a young man was killed by a vigilante neighbourhood watchman - who also claimed to feel threatened - and he got off.

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Unread 07-17-2013, 12:40 PM
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If you research that case you'd find out she actually pulled a gun out and shot her husband during an argument. Stop falling for propaganda.
What research did you do that told you she shot her husband?
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Unread 07-17-2013, 12:40 PM   #82
 
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What research did you do that told you she shot her husband?
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Unread 07-17-2013, 03:34 PM
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I need to read into this more, but from what I've grasped so far Zimmerman pursued Martin without reason and against police advice, which would suggest to me that at least a charge of manslaughter would be applicable as Zimmerman himself instigated the situation and thus a degree of conscious responsibility is present: Zimmerman followed the kid which then lead to the confrontation; the chain of causation begins with Zimmerman, which - to me - means he's certainly guilty of something given that a life was taken unnecessarily.

Like I said though, I'm not fully informed. Will delve into and return.
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I need to read into this more, but from what I've grasped so far Zimmerman pursued Martin without reason and against police advice, which would suggest to me that at least a charge of manslaughter would be applicable as Zimmerman himself instigated the situation and thus a degree of conscious responsibility is present: Zimmerman followed the kid which then lead to the confrontation; the chain of causation begins with Zimmerman, which - to me - means he's certainly guilty of something given that a life was taken unnecessarily.

Like I said though, I'm not fully informed. Will delve into and return.
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