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Unread 02-19-2020, 03:20 PM
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Or we could talk about how names earn votes instead of verses...but y'all not ready for that conversation...

I see tons of battles these days where person A has a better verse than person B, but person B gets the vote simply because of who they are. People have to realize that just because person B might be a better all around emcee (punches, scheme-work, rhymes, concepts, reputation, list of accomplishments), did he/she drop a better verse in that one battle? A lot of people don't think that way. We need to vote on the verses provided in that battle, not the emcee's total body of work.
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Provide some examples?
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I think a lot of us are ready for that conversation actually, so let’s have it.
Don’t come in here with that nonsense and not name names or examples. Your voting proficiency is questionable at best with how often you tend to side with the losing verse. You have a right to vote how you want to as does everyone else. So unless you’ve got some examples of sway or crooked voting, anything you can try to show us to support your narrative is your just own critique of those verses which is nothing more than opinion.

And to answer the low scores comments from the OP....the best tourney verses and classic 32s are double dimes. That’s hours and hours of writing by the best of the best. Some 8 that some random person keys up in half an hour is often only half as good as those verses, if that. So that’s a 5. If you’re putting something out there to catch the open, most folks can top out at a 7 or 8 if shits real good. It’s all relative to what 10 is cuz it’s all downhill from there
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Unread 02-19-2020, 03:20 PM   #11
 
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Or we could talk about how names earn votes instead of verses...but y'all not ready for that conversation...

I see tons of battles these days where person A has a better verse than person B, but person B gets the vote simply because of who they are. People have to realize that just because person B might be a better all around emcee (punches, scheme-work, rhymes, concepts, reputation, list of accomplishments), did he/she drop a better verse in that one battle? A lot of people don't think that way. We need to vote on the verses provided in that battle, not the emcee's total body of work.
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Provide some examples?
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I think a lot of us are ready for that conversation actually, so let’s have it.
Don’t come in here with that nonsense and not name names or examples. Your voting proficiency is questionable at best with how often you tend to side with the losing verse. You have a right to vote how you want to as does everyone else. So unless you’ve got some examples of sway or crooked voting, anything you can try to show us to support your narrative is your just own critique of those verses which is nothing more than opinion.

And to answer the low scores comments from the OP....the best tourney verses and classic 32s are double dimes. That’s hours and hours of writing by the best of the best. Some 8 that some random person keys up in half an hour is often only half as good as those verses, if that. So that’s a 5. If you’re putting something out there to catch the open, most folks can top out at a 7 or 8 if shits real good. It’s all relative to what 10 is cuz it’s all downhill from there
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I beat 14 people off of EtH top 100 list. Some multiple times and some only once. I was left off the list because that faggot doesn’t like me. 14 people though...
Fuck em. You don't need validation from others. Why is his list so important to you?
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I beat 14 people off of EtH top 100 list. Some multiple times and some only once. I was left off the list because that faggot doesn’t like me. 14 people though...
Fuck em. You don't need validation from others. Why is his list so important to you?
 
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CakedOut is for sure top 100 on his best day. Don’t sleep.
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CakedOut is for sure top 100 on his best day. Don’t sleep.
 
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Unread 02-19-2020, 03:51 PM
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Don’t come in here with that nonsense and not name names or examples. Your voting proficiency is questionable at best with how often you tend to side with the losing verse. You have a right to vote how you want to as does everyone else. So unless you’ve got some examples of sway or crooked voting, anything you can try to show us to support your narrative is your just own critique of those verses which is nothing more than opinion.

And to answer the low scores comments from the OP....the best tourney verses and classic 32s are double dimes. That’s hours and hours of writing by the best of the best. Some 8 that some random person keys up in half an hour is often only half as good as those verses, if that. So that’s a 5. If you’re putting something out there to catch the open, most folks can top out at a 7 or 8 if shits real good. It’s all relative to what 10 is cuz it’s all downhill from there
And this was before i seen your vote on my battle @Saiiyan. Lmfao. Clown
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Don’t come in here with that nonsense and not name names or examples. Your voting proficiency is questionable at best with how often you tend to side with the losing verse. You have a right to vote how you want to as does everyone else. So unless you’ve got some examples of sway or crooked voting, anything you can try to show us to support your narrative is your just own critique of those verses which is nothing more than opinion.

And to answer the low scores comments from the OP....the best tourney verses and classic 32s are double dimes. That’s hours and hours of writing by the best of the best. Some 8 that some random person keys up in half an hour is often only half as good as those verses, if that. So that’s a 5. If you’re putting something out there to catch the open, most folks can top out at a 7 or 8 if shits real good. It’s all relative to what 10 is cuz it’s all downhill from there
And this was before i seen your vote on my battle @Saiiyan. Lmfao. Clown
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Or we could talk about how names earn votes instead of verses...but y'all not ready for that conversation...

I see tons of battles these days where person A has a better verse than person B, but person B gets the vote simply because of who they are. People have to realize that just because person B might be a better all around emcee (punches, scheme-work, rhymes, concepts, reputation, list of accomplishments), did he/she drop a better verse in that one battle? A lot of people don't think that way. We need to vote on the verses provided in that battle, not the emcee's total body of work.
I wrote about this just a few days ago. Comments quoting me as having the bar of the verse and voting for the more 'experienced' textcee. Bitch please.
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Or we could talk about how names earn votes instead of verses...but y'all not ready for that conversation...

I see tons of battles these days where person A has a better verse than person B, but person B gets the vote simply because of who they are. People have to realize that just because person B might be a better all around emcee (punches, scheme-work, rhymes, concepts, reputation, list of accomplishments), did he/she drop a better verse in that one battle? A lot of people don't think that way. We need to vote on the verses provided in that battle, not the emcee's total body of work.
I wrote about this just a few days ago. Comments quoting me as having the bar of the verse and voting for the more 'experienced' textcee. Bitch please.
 
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CakedOut is for sure top 100 on his best day. Don’t sleep.
Definitely one of the nicest
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CakedOut is for sure top 100 on his best day. Don’t sleep.
Definitely one of the nicest
 
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OP has a point and I've made a similar thread

It's people giving me 5's, 6's, and 7s who I'd take a giant shit on. So by that criteria, they can't be mad if I vote 1's, 2's and 3's on their battles.

Which I will do going forward, even if I don't need the credits. But they gon learn with me lol
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OP has a point and I've made a similar thread

It's people giving me 5's, 6's, and 7s who I'd take a giant shit on. So by that criteria, they can't be mad if I vote 1's, 2's and 3's on their battles.

Which I will do going forward, even if I don't need the credits. But they gon learn with me lol
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I feel this conversation always turns into a “so and so got robbed” conversation. Nothing usually comes of this. If you want to have an ACTUAL conversation about lack voting we can.

If anything I think the FVC needs a revamp. Maybe a notification system for members instead of tagging folks and hoping the notice in time. Anything really.
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I feel this conversation always turns into a “so and so got robbed” conversation. Nothing usually comes of this. If you want to have an ACTUAL conversation about lack voting we can.

If anything I think the FVC needs a revamp. Maybe a notification system for members instead of tagging folks and hoping the notice in time. Anything really.
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I feel this conversation always turns into a “so and so got robbed” conversation. Nothing usually comes of this. If you want to have an ACTUAL conversation about lack voting we can.

If anything I think the FVC needs a revamp. Maybe a notification system for members instead of tagging folks and hoping the notice in time. Anything really.
The FVC is just a group of people who vote a little bit more than the average member with longer expos. That don't make them any better of a voter. FVC needs to be gone and stay gone. If I wanted a good vote that completely shits on the entire Fair Voters Club, I'd ask guys like @Manhattan or @EtH.

Honestly hate that people keep pushing this idea for revamps when nothing about it makes any sense.
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I feel this conversation always turns into a “so and so got robbed” conversation. Nothing usually comes of this. If you want to have an ACTUAL conversation about lack voting we can.

If anything I think the FVC needs a revamp. Maybe a notification system for members instead of tagging folks and hoping the notice in time. Anything really.
The FVC is just a group of people who vote a little bit more than the average member with longer expos. That don't make them any better of a voter. FVC needs to be gone and stay gone. If I wanted a good vote that completely shits on the entire Fair Voters Club, I'd ask guys like @Manhattan or @EtH.

Honestly hate that people keep pushing this idea for revamps when nothing about it makes any sense.
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The FVC is just a group of people who vote a little bit more than the average member with longer expos. That don't make them any better of a voter. FVC needs to be gone and stay gone. If I wanted a good vote that completely shits on the entire Fair Voters Club, I'd ask guys like @Manhattan or @EtH.

Honestly hate that people keep pushing this idea for revamps when nothing about it makes any sense.
This answer provides nothing. Your basically saying “everyone should like... vote more you guys”. They should but what’s the solution?
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The FVC is just a group of people who vote a little bit more than the average member with longer expos. That don't make them any better of a voter. FVC needs to be gone and stay gone. If I wanted a good vote that completely shits on the entire Fair Voters Club, I'd ask guys like @Manhattan or @EtH.

Honestly hate that people keep pushing this idea for revamps when nothing about it makes any sense.
This answer provides nothing. Your basically saying “everyone should like... vote more you guys”. They should but what’s the solution?
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