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i think what people fail to realize is overall texting skill has actually declined since the Golden Era.

Texting is based on how well you can string words together whilst being creative and bringing your personalized swagger to the table.

Texting has become such a dumbed down formula of setup punch setup punch. I can’t name too many that have their own style. The complexity of multis , the swagger, it’s dumbed down now

And it’s hilarious to me that cats really think they are better than most the legends on that list.

But meh, continue.

I agree... People are too focused on the nerdy technical shit...back then there were battlers that people fucked with for their 'flow' alone, punchlines, wordplay, etc. Now its some abc123 shit out of a handbook
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i think what people fail to realize is overall texting skill has actually declined since the Golden Era.

Texting is based on how well you can string words together whilst being creative and bringing your personalized swagger to the table.

Texting has become such a dumbed down formula of setup punch setup punch. I can’t name too many that have their own style. The complexity of multis , the swagger, it’s dumbed down now

And it’s hilarious to me that cats really think they are better than most the legends on that list.

But meh, continue.

I agree... People are too focused on the nerdy technical shit...back then there were battlers that people fucked with for their 'flow' alone, punchlines, wordplay, etc. Now its some abc123 shit out of a handbook
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I agree... People are too focused on the nerdy technical shit...back then there were battlers that people fucked with for their 'flow' alone, punchlines, wordplay, etc. Now its some abc123 shit out of a handbook
Real shit bro. Flow alone , a good example would be reefer in his prime.

Now it’s some copy paste insert multi set insert punch shit that people think is so difficult to do when in reality that shits mediocre. That’s why I stopped texting.

I watched as cats like reefer lost battle after battle to some mediocre ass punchline verse with average actual texting skill level required.

Anyone active now that doesn’t respect the ones before them obviously don’t fully understand what it means to be a DOPE texter.

Just a bunch of average textcees running around with their chests out because they’ve won titles in a dead era and have all of ten dick riders calling them the best.

Show some respect. Elevate your pen game, and learn what it means to actually be a legendary textcee. Not some punchline warrior who couldn’t even begin to craft a verse worthy of being mentioned with the niggas that paved the way for you.

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I agree... People are too focused on the nerdy technical shit...back then there were battlers that people fucked with for their 'flow' alone, punchlines, wordplay, etc. Now its some abc123 shit out of a handbook
Real shit bro. Flow alone , a good example would be reefer in his prime.

Now it’s some copy paste insert multi set insert punch shit that people think is so difficult to do when in reality that shits mediocre. That’s why I stopped texting.

I watched as cats like reefer lost battle after battle to some mediocre ass punchline verse with average actual texting skill level required.

Anyone active now that doesn’t respect the ones before them obviously don’t fully understand what it means to be a DOPE texter.

Just a bunch of average textcees running around with their chests out because they’ve won titles in a dead era and have all of ten dick riders calling them the best.

Show some respect. Elevate your pen game, and learn what it means to actually be a legendary textcee. Not some punchline warrior who couldn’t even begin to craft a verse worthy of being mentioned with the niggas that paved the way for you.

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Flow and multis are easy, anyone semi competent can do that all day, and that’s what old textcees relied on. Coming up with new wordplay/creative punchlines like modern texctees do is much harder and what actually takes skill. Anyone who understands the concept of a 2 syllable multi can make a scheme of 7+ syllable multis etc. Flow is a simple formula too, it’s called having roughly the same number of syllables between rhyme schemes. Listening to a song you can expect that the snare is gonna hit on the 2 and 4, on a verse with good flow it’s the same thing the rhymes come at regular intervals.

If I’m not concerned about punchlines, I can key up a verse with elementary insults but on a 10 syllable scheme with perfect flow easy. Shits easy and the basic building blocks of a verse, punchlines are what separate the GOATs.

And I don’t know what @Erupt is on about , your punchlines/wordplay is what won you your shit. You might be dissing the style but you incorporated it into your verses, because that’s what gets votes in this era. You might not have liked doing it, but you did it.
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Flow and multis are easy, anyone semi competent can do that all day, and that’s what old textcees relied on. Coming up with new wordplay/creative punchlines like modern texctees do is much harder and what actually takes skill. Anyone who understands the concept of a 2 syllable multi can make a scheme of 7+ syllable multis etc. Flow is a simple formula too, it’s called having roughly the same number of syllables between rhyme schemes. Listening to a song you can expect that the snare is gonna hit on the 2 and 4, on a verse with good flow it’s the same thing the rhymes come at regular intervals.

If I’m not concerned about punchlines, I can key up a verse with elementary insults but on a 10 syllable scheme with perfect flow easy. Shits easy and the basic building blocks of a verse, punchlines are what separate the GOATs.

And I don’t know what @Erupt is on about , your punchlines/wordplay is what won you your shit. You might be dissing the style but you incorporated it into your verses, because that’s what gets votes in this era. You might not have liked doing it, but you did it.
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Flow and multis are easy, anyone semi competent can do that all day, and that’s what old textcees relied on. Coming up with new wordplay/creative punchlines like modern texctees do is much harder and what actually takes skill. Anyone who understands the concept of a 2 syllable multi can make a scheme of 7+ syllable multis etc. Flow is a simple formula too, it’s called having roughly the same number of syllables between rhyme schemes. Listening to a song you can expect that the snare is gonna hit on the 2 and 4, on a verse with good flow it’s the same thing the rhymes come at regular intervals
Old heads did not rely on multis smh where do these false claims come from?

Illimit, daddio, myself, Jason, UA, reefer, Mikey Dinero, Huey jazz, real talk,

I could go on...

All of those names were all time greats at wordplay punchlines etc... BUT
The difference is it was mixed with impeccable swagger... impeccable multis, and their own style to boot.

The fact you even came in here saying anyone can do that, and it’s what old heads relied on etc goes to show how little you actually know.

I’m talking stringing multis together whilst still using wordplay punches etc with a unique swagger and style.

NIGGAS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE SWAGGER AND STYLE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN A TEXT VERSE NOT PUNCHES!!! Otherwise you look like everyone else. And it’s the multis that separate you! That’s where the swagger comes in.
Keyword unique. The fact you come in here and say it’s all about punches goes to show how much you know about being a Dope textcee.

And this is no diss to anyone active, because there are a few cats whom I think are good. But could still elevate one more level.

The final legendary level is finding your own unique style and mastering them all tbh, whilst using every aspect of texting.

I sat down with cats like Illokwent , explained this to him and he got it! And went on the be the first LBT King , after me helping him because he knew what it took!

I explained this to cats like Lockhart and he got it! And is now one step away from being a legend after taking that final step.

Some niggas will never get it tho, and it drives me insane . But I digress

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Flow and multis are easy, anyone semi competent can do that all day, and that’s what old textcees relied on. Coming up with new wordplay/creative punchlines like modern texctees do is much harder and what actually takes skill. Anyone who understands the concept of a 2 syllable multi can make a scheme of 7+ syllable multis etc. Flow is a simple formula too, it’s called having roughly the same number of syllables between rhyme schemes. Listening to a song you can expect that the snare is gonna hit on the 2 and 4, on a verse with good flow it’s the same thing the rhymes come at regular intervals
Old heads did not rely on multis smh where do these false claims come from?

Illimit, daddio, myself, Jason, UA, reefer, Mikey Dinero, Huey jazz, real talk,

I could go on...

All of those names were all time greats at wordplay punchlines etc... BUT
The difference is it was mixed with impeccable swagger... impeccable multis, and their own style to boot.

The fact you even came in here saying anyone can do that, and it’s what old heads relied on etc goes to show how little you actually know.

I’m talking stringing multis together whilst still using wordplay punches etc with a unique swagger and style.

NIGGAS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE SWAGGER AND STYLE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN A TEXT VERSE NOT PUNCHES!!! Otherwise you look like everyone else. And it’s the multis that separate you! That’s where the swagger comes in.
Keyword unique. The fact you come in here and say it’s all about punches goes to show how much you know about being a Dope textcee.

And this is no diss to anyone active, because there are a few cats whom I think are good. But could still elevate one more level.

The final legendary level is finding your own unique style and mastering them all tbh, whilst using every aspect of texting.

I sat down with cats like Illokwent , explained this to him and he got it! And went on the be the first LBT King , after me helping him because he knew what it took!

I explained this to cats like Lockhart and he got it! And is now one step away from being a legend after taking that final step.

Some niggas will never get it tho, and it drives me insane . But I digress

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Funny to see people who haven't battled in years compare the new vs. old school
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Old heads did not rely on multis smh where do these false claims come from?

Illimit, daddio, myself, Jason, UA, reefer, Mikey Dinero, Huey jazz, real talk,

I could go on...

All of those names were all time greats at wordplay punchlines etc... BUT
The difference is it was mixed with impeccable swagger... impeccable multis, and their own style to boot.

The fact you even came in here saying anyone can do that, and it’s what old heads relied on etc goes to show how little you actually know.

I’m talking stringing multis together whilst still using wordplay punches etc with a unique swagger and style.

Keyword unique. The fact you come in here and say it’s all about punches goes to show how much you know about being a Dope textcee.

And this is no diss to anyone active, because there are a few cats whom I think are good. But could still elevate one more level.

The final legendary level is finding your own unique style and mastering them all tbh, whilst using every aspect of texting.
My opinion is that most of the old heads did have unique swagger, multis, flow as you just said, but some had mediocre punchlines as a resulting sacrifice. For example from the names you listed Jason, Deniro B Milk, Huey Jazz, and Illimit. IMO their punches usually didn’t hit much harder than a solid texctee from today .The true great ones kept the punchlines strong also and also had the above mentioned skills such as UA, Reefer, Real Talk, and Yourself.
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Old heads did not rely on multis smh where do these false claims come from?

Illimit, daddio, myself, Jason, UA, reefer, Mikey Dinero, Huey jazz, real talk,

I could go on...

All of those names were all time greats at wordplay punchlines etc... BUT
The difference is it was mixed with impeccable swagger... impeccable multis, and their own style to boot.

The fact you even came in here saying anyone can do that, and it’s what old heads relied on etc goes to show how little you actually know.

I’m talking stringing multis together whilst still using wordplay punches etc with a unique swagger and style.

Keyword unique. The fact you come in here and say it’s all about punches goes to show how much you know about being a Dope textcee.

And this is no diss to anyone active, because there are a few cats whom I think are good. But could still elevate one more level.

The final legendary level is finding your own unique style and mastering them all tbh, whilst using every aspect of texting.
My opinion is that most of the old heads did have unique swagger, multis, flow as you just said, but some had mediocre punchlines as a resulting sacrifice. For example from the names you listed Jason, Deniro B Milk, Huey Jazz, and Illimit. IMO their punches usually didn’t hit much harder than a solid texctee from today .The true great ones kept the punchlines strong also and also had the above mentioned skills such as UA, Reefer, Real Talk, and Yourself.
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Funny to see people who haven't battled in years compare the new vs. old school
What does not battlin in years have to do with it? Nothing.

Last nigga I battled was Suel , and won. I believe he was just inducted HOF? Think that was actually a year ago. And I hadn’t battled in forever lol

What’s your point? I’m new school and old school I been kicking these new school niggas asses since 2010. FOH lmao

And I’ve beaten the best old school niggas.

I’m one of the few niggas left that is qualified to speak on the matter...

You must be talking about someone else lil nigga

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My opinion is that most of the old heads did have unique swagger, multis, flow as you just said, but some had mediocre punchlines as a resulting sacrifice. For example from the names you listed Jason, Deniro B Milk, Huey Jazz, and Illimit. IMO their punches usually didn’t hit much harder than a solid texctee from today .The true great ones kept the punchlines strong also and also had the above mentioned skills such as UA, Reefer, Real Talk, and Yourself.
Ok I see what you’re saying about Deniro B Milk, IMO he was overrated and is the prime example of what you’re saying I’ll give you that.

But illimit? He was on another level imo , and his punches were good. But I’ll go back and read his stuff again ... same with Jason , he was a dope puncher... I’ll go back and read their stuff but I’m like 90 percent sure Jason and illimit were top notch punchers and wp. But maybe their stuff doesn’t translate to today, I could be wrong about them.
But I doubt it lol
Appreciate the recognition too, g.

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Funny to see people who haven't battled in years compare the new vs. old school
What does not battlin in years have to do with it? Nothing.

Last nigga I battled was Suel , and won. I believe he was just inducted HOF? Think that was actually a year ago. And I hadn’t battled in forever lol

What’s your point? I’m new school and old school I been kicking these new school niggas asses since 2010. FOH lmao

And I’ve beaten the best old school niggas.

I’m one of the few niggas left that is qualified to speak on the matter...

You must be talking about someone else lil nigga

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My opinion is that most of the old heads did have unique swagger, multis, flow as you just said, but some had mediocre punchlines as a resulting sacrifice. For example from the names you listed Jason, Deniro B Milk, Huey Jazz, and Illimit. IMO their punches usually didn’t hit much harder than a solid texctee from today .The true great ones kept the punchlines strong also and also had the above mentioned skills such as UA, Reefer, Real Talk, and Yourself.
Ok I see what you’re saying about Deniro B Milk, IMO he was overrated and is the prime example of what you’re saying I’ll give you that.

But illimit? He was on another level imo , and his punches were good. But I’ll go back and read his stuff again ... same with Jason , he was a dope puncher... I’ll go back and read their stuff but I’m like 90 percent sure Jason and illimit were top notch punchers and wp. But maybe their stuff doesn’t translate to today, I could be wrong about them.
But I doubt it lol
Appreciate the recognition too, g.

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First, what Erupt is saying is mostly bullshit. Battling works similarly to boxing. You can have all the style in the world, slick as fuck, but if you're not landing punches you're not winning fights. Something has to connect. Now a slick or unconventional style can completely lead to those punches landing cleaner than they would otherwise, but the style is there to supplement the punches. The offence and attack is everything.

That's why someone like Reefer sucked to me. He'd fit one punch into 6 lines. If you're opponent has landed three to your one, your one better be a fucking haymaker or you're dropping a decision.

Now to Erupts credit, I think he's right about everyone's writing styles. I know I take a lot of credit but when you consider it's guys like Lock, Bleu, Manny, Shodan etc. that pushes the current gen of the site, I think that ACs style of clean writing led to the current point of LB. Guys like Grizz or Dissizit were so fucking bad and we all knew that's not how we wanted the site to write.

The problem with that is, it's where everyone stopped. Everyone just became a clean writer and quit evolving. You mention you teaching Lockhart but that's a terrible example. Lockhart has zero style to his verse. That's why he sat as a fringe battler for ages. He broke through not because he has a style, but on the strength of his punches alone. To battle without an edge you need to fucking nail every technical aspect and you need to be extremely good at coming up with punches.

That's my problem with most of the guys now. Since the style is so generic and plain, I shark every single little issue in the lines because if you're gonna write generic you better be fucking good at it. Like, perfect.

What you want to do is get the clean, technical, basic style down first. Nail that shit. Then, experiment. Erupt did that by trying to eliminate generic deliveries to his bars. He did everything in his power to avoid similes and try and go for a different approach.

You can definitely be a successful battler with very little style. UA, Bleu, Lockhart. These are guys who just spit very clean, very straight forward, keep your punches going from A to B but make sure the punch itself is fucking killer.

But to shortcut that, you need to find a style. A way to stand out. You all know me as the personals guy and while it doesn't always pay off, I have been competitive with guys I wouldn't stand a chance against in an impersonal normal battle. For me, tapping into my sort of roasting, trolling, comedy sort of style is what it took to have an edge. I dunno if it'll work for everyone but try and find a way to add your personality into your bars. When you think of great battle rappers, they each have so much personality in their performance. It's easier when doing it like but you wouldn't imagine Shuffle T sitting down and thinking "Man these gun bars are fucking sick they'll make the other guy shit himself".
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First, what Erupt is saying is mostly bullshit. Battling works similarly to boxing. You can have all the style in the world, slick as fuck, but if you're not landing punches you're not winning fights. Something has to connect. Now a slick or unconventional style can completely lead to those punches landing cleaner than they would otherwise, but the style is there to supplement the punches. The offence and attack is everything.

That's why someone like Reefer sucked to me. He'd fit one punch into 6 lines. If you're opponent has landed three to your one, your one better be a fucking haymaker or you're dropping a decision.

Now to Erupts credit, I think he's right about everyone's writing styles. I know I take a lot of credit but when you consider it's guys like Lock, Bleu, Manny, Shodan etc. that pushes the current gen of the site, I think that ACs style of clean writing led to the current point of LB. Guys like Grizz or Dissizit were so fucking bad and we all knew that's not how we wanted the site to write.

The problem with that is, it's where everyone stopped. Everyone just became a clean writer and quit evolving. You mention you teaching Lockhart but that's a terrible example. Lockhart has zero style to his verse. That's why he sat as a fringe battler for ages. He broke through not because he has a style, but on the strength of his punches alone. To battle without an edge you need to fucking nail every technical aspect and you need to be extremely good at coming up with punches.

That's my problem with most of the guys now. Since the style is so generic and plain, I shark every single little issue in the lines because if you're gonna write generic you better be fucking good at it. Like, perfect.

What you want to do is get the clean, technical, basic style down first. Nail that shit. Then, experiment. Erupt did that by trying to eliminate generic deliveries to his bars. He did everything in his power to avoid similes and try and go for a different approach.

You can definitely be a successful battler with very little style. UA, Bleu, Lockhart. These are guys who just spit very clean, very straight forward, keep your punches going from A to B but make sure the punch itself is fucking killer.

But to shortcut that, you need to find a style. A way to stand out. You all know me as the personals guy and while it doesn't always pay off, I have been competitive with guys I wouldn't stand a chance against in an impersonal normal battle. For me, tapping into my sort of roasting, trolling, comedy sort of style is what it took to have an edge. I dunno if it'll work for everyone but try and find a way to add your personality into your bars. When you think of great battle rappers, they each have so much personality in their performance. It's easier when doing it like but you wouldn't imagine Shuffle T sitting down and thinking "Man these gun bars are fucking sick they'll make the other guy shit himself".
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Is shodan actually good now or something or is there just no good battlers left. Sitting here like 4-0 vs Shodan
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Is shodan actually good now or something or is there just no good battlers left. Sitting here like 4-0 vs Shodan
It's always so embarrassing when dudes brag about wins ages ago on people. Good for you. I've beat pretty much every champ ever as well. You're out here acting like beating Rainbow Dash is worthwhile.

He's pretty good last I checked. He's not like a huge thread but he's a clean writer.
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It's always so embarrassing when dudes brag about wins ages ago on people. Good for you. I've beat pretty much every champ ever as well. You're out here acting like beating Rainbow Dash is worthwhile.

He's pretty good last I checked. He's not like a huge thread but he's a clean writer.
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