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12-20-2017, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicholas
Racism isn't tolerated or within the rules. I've banned Rain twice for racism in the last month. Which is the context of that bar. I'm paraphrasing his posts.
I agree that this site isn't diverse though. When I first joined it was far more of a mix of cultures. Now it does seem to have become progressively white. I think text battling culture is moving towards nerdy white people as a majority. That shouldn't be at the expense of any other group though you and your friends are always welcome.
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Don't you get that your actions, in this battle, are what are making him feel like this is at the expense of his demographic? You're giving the site a bad rep by using racial slurs as a staff member.
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12-20-2017, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicholas
Racism isn't tolerated or within the rules. I've banned Rain twice for racism in the last month. Which is the context of that bar. I'm paraphrasing his posts.
I agree that this site isn't diverse though. When I first joined it was far more of a mix of cultures. Now it does seem to have become progressively white. I think text battling culture is moving towards nerdy white people as a majority. That shouldn't be at the expense of any other group though you and your friends are always welcome.
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Don't you get that your actions, in this battle, are what are making him feel like this is at the expense of his demographic? You're giving the site a bad rep by using racial slurs as a staff member.
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12-20-2017, 06:53 PM
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Yeah Lowkey..i always Felt like The Mods weren't Really a diverse Group of People,and None of them Represented me or My demographic,Maybe Noble..I'm a Black dude From Ny, who Grew Up in the 90s. I personally would never Invite any of my Friends of Any Color to Come check this site out,Its just Not for us...It sort of seems like ..Letsbeef is a "HipHop" website that doesn't Care about black people.
Being Black is Deeper than Skin color,and The N word isn't Just Reserved for African Americans..It's how those at the Top,View those at The Bottom.
In the rules Plagiarism is Bannable,Racism is Bannable and so Is Voter Fraud.But Racism is allowed.. But it has Limits..and that Limit Might be.. If Staff Likes you.
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12-20-2017, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by K SERA
Yeah Lowkey..i always Felt like The Mods weren't Really a diverse Group of People,and None of them Represented me or My demographic,Maybe Noble..I'm a Black dude From Ny, who Grew Up in the 90s. I personally would never Invite any of my Friends of Any Color to Come check this site out,Its just Not for us...It sort of seems like ..Letsbeef is a "HipHop" website that doesn't Care about black people.
Being Black is Deeper than Skin color,and The N word isn't Just Reserved for African Americans..It's how those at the Top,View those at The Bottom.
In the rules Plagiarism is Bannable,Racism is Bannable and so Is Voter Fraud.But Racism is allowed.. But it has Limits..and that Limit Might be.. If Staff Likes you.
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12-20-2017, 07:04 PM
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Racism isn't tolerated or within the rules. I've banned Rain twice for racism in the last month. Which is the context of that bar. I'm paraphrasing his posts.
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Racism: Racism will be a bannable offense only in extreme cases. This means that if someone drops a racist comment and you complain about it no ban will occur. This decision was made because alot of people abused this policy and used it as an excuse to get someone they don't like banned. The main reason however is that this a battle website where anything goes. Bare in mind that we don't condone racism but the internet isn't a place for the easily offended, much less a rap battle website where the aim of the game is to offend & threaten through the use of creative writing and more importantly, free speech.
https://www.letsbeef.com/rules.php
Ah well.. C'est La Vie
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12-20-2017, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicholas
Racism isn't tolerated or within the rules. I've banned Rain twice for racism in the last month. Which is the context of that bar. I'm paraphrasing his posts.
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Racism: Racism will be a bannable offense only in extreme cases. This means that if someone drops a racist comment and you complain about it no ban will occur. This decision was made because alot of people abused this policy and used it as an excuse to get someone they don't like banned. The main reason however is that this a battle website where anything goes. Bare in mind that we don't condone racism but the internet isn't a place for the easily offended, much less a rap battle website where the aim of the game is to offend & threaten through the use of creative writing and more importantly, free speech.
https://www.letsbeef.com/rules.php
Ah well.. C'est La Vie
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12-20-2017, 07:23 PM
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I agree that this site isn't diverse though. When I first joined it was far more of a mix of cultures. Now it does seem to have become progressively white.
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mfw nicholas is attributing a negative connotation to a lack of racial diversity on letsbeef while actively contributing to lack of racial diversity on letsbeef
EDIT: That crippling feel when the site hasnt had a solid owner in 9 years but the staffs problems are with how many republican white dudes log in on a daily basis.
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12-20-2017, 07:23 PM
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I agree that this site isn't diverse though. When I first joined it was far more of a mix of cultures. Now it does seem to have become progressively white.
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mfw nicholas is attributing a negative connotation to a lack of racial diversity on letsbeef while actively contributing to lack of racial diversity on letsbeef
EDIT: That crippling feel when the site hasnt had a solid owner in 9 years but the staffs problems are with how many republican white dudes log in on a daily basis.
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12-20-2017, 07:27 PM
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mfw nicholas is complaining letsbeef is too white while contributing to the number of white people on letsbeef
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It wasn't a complaint, just an observation.
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12-20-2017, 07:27 PM
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mfw nicholas is complaining letsbeef is too white while contributing to the number of white people on letsbeef
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It wasn't a complaint, just an observation.
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12-20-2017, 07:30 PM
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It wasn't a complaint, just an observation.
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So, you're happy with the lack of diversity?
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12-20-2017, 07:30 PM
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It wasn't a complaint, just an observation.
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So, you're happy with the lack of diversity?
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12-20-2017, 07:31 PM
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It wasn't a complaint, just an observation.
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Yeah I edited to make my point less retarded lol.
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12-20-2017, 07:31 PM
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Yeah I edited to make my point less retarded lol.
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12-21-2017, 02:19 AM
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3.) Releasing personal information about site users.
He never did this you are reaching and being a little butthurt bitch because you got bodied. You instant messaged him a picture of a sink ON LETSBEEF and he used that personal in a battle. He never revealed any personal information about you. Please tell me how that is personal information?
Either explain an instance of Nicholas actually revealing personal information or remove it from your post, because lying doesn't really help your case. All he did was post the picture you sent him on letsbeef messenger.. a picture of a fucking sink.
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12-21-2017, 02:19 AM
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3.) Releasing personal information about site users.
He never did this you are reaching and being a little butthurt bitch because you got bodied. You instant messaged him a picture of a sink ON LETSBEEF and he used that personal in a battle. He never revealed any personal information about you. Please tell me how that is personal information?
Either explain an instance of Nicholas actually revealing personal information or remove it from your post, because lying doesn't really help your case. All he did was post the picture you sent him on letsbeef messenger.. a picture of a fucking sink.
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12-21-2017, 02:31 AM
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You made 6 points in your OP and I'll weigh in on each one separately.
1) Yes, his use of oronyms as written verbatim on a website was plagiarism. I agreed it was plagiarism but disagreed that it was "biting" and explained what I see as a distinction between the two. Either way, both plagiarism and biting are against the site rules. Should he be demodded for it? When this came to light, he apologized to the staff and offered to step down. I'm not sure if he ever apologized publicly, but as far as I can tell, he's never actually denied what he did. Being that he showed remorse and considering that he's probably the most contributing active mod (LBT, LBA, Hall of Fame, LB Awards, etc..), I was against him stepping down, and I still feel the same way, especially since this doesn't represent a pattern. An auto-win was given to his opponent on that battle, and I think that is how staff chose to resolve it.
2) We've all made comments that we later edited or deleted. The fact that he even went back to edit it shows he actually has regard for the site rules and is being careful not to sway. He made the edit the same day the comment was made. I don't see how this is a big deal, or am I missing something?
3) Where did he release personal information?
4) I've only heard your side of this so far, and from what I gather, he removed you from the LBT card because you joked that you would no-show? I would prefer to hear Nick's account of events before making judgment. If it occurred the way you've described, I agree that the participants should've been informed first and that would've been a more considerate way to handle things. I don't know if it merits being demodded though.
5) If this is as you described, then yes, I agree and I think it is highly hypocritical. But once again, I'd have to hear Nick's side of the story. It's possible that he relieved Lock of the LBT/LBA for reasons other than that he was both running and participating in it.
6) Yes, he used a racial slur but seemed to be parodying his opponent rather than conveying it himself. This may still offend some people. Personally I don't see it as a big deal.
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You made 6 points in your OP and I'll weigh in on each one separately.
1) Yes, his use of oronyms as written verbatim on a website was plagiarism. I agreed it was plagiarism but disagreed that it was "biting" and explained what I see as a distinction between the two. Either way, both plagiarism and biting are against the site rules. Should he be demodded for it? When this came to light, he apologized to the staff and offered to step down. I'm not sure if he ever apologized publicly, but as far as I can tell, he's never actually denied what he did. Being that he showed remorse and considering that he's probably the most contributing active mod (LBT, LBA, Hall of Fame, LB Awards, etc..), I was against him stepping down, and I still feel the same way, especially since this doesn't represent a pattern. An auto-win was given to his opponent on that battle, and I think that is how staff chose to resolve it.
2) We've all made comments that we later edited or deleted. The fact that he even went back to edit it shows he actually has regard for the site rules and is being careful not to sway. He made the edit the same day the comment was made. I don't see how this is a big deal, or am I missing something?
3) Where did he release personal information?
4) I've only heard your side of this so far, and from what I gather, he removed you from the LBT card because you joked that you would no-show? I would prefer to hear Nick's account of events before making judgment. If it occurred the way you've described, I agree that the participants should've been informed first and that would've been a more considerate way to handle things. I don't know if it merits being demodded though.
5) If this is as you described, then yes, I agree and I think it is highly hypocritical. But once again, I'd have to hear Nick's side of the story. It's possible that he relieved Lock of the LBT/LBA for reasons other than that he was both running and participating in it.
6) Yes, he used a racial slur but seemed to be parodying his opponent rather than conveying it himself. This may still offend some people. Personally I don't see it as a big deal.
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