Titles

I can only speak personally, but this change would hinder my motivation to continue entering tournies.

I can only speak personally, but this change would hinder my motivation to continue entering tournies.

^ everyone who currently battles undoubtedly feel the same

^ everyone who currently battles undoubtedly feel the same

I guarantee you it won't be competitive cuz the best dude on the site won't be in it lol :grass: Let's reset the all time rankings tho

I guarantee you it won't be competitive cuz the best dude on the site won't be in it lol :grass: Let's reset the all time rankings tho

[Nerdism]

Put it to a vote that only people with titles can vote on. The people that want them wiped are basically all people that have never obtained one. Why should they even get a say in this! Me included

[Nerdism]

Put it to a vote that only people with titles can vote on. The people that want them wiped are basically all people that have never obtained one. Why should they even get a say in this! Me included

[Bape]

Originally Posted by Bleu

Let's reset the all time rankings tho

this pls.

[Bape]

Originally Posted by Bleu

Let's reset the all time rankings tho

this pls.

[NOBLE]

The only people that want this are people with no titles? I guess people totally missed Illokwent and Erupt saying this is a good idea. And saying the only people that want this are people who don't currently battle is grabbing at straws. It's almost an ad hominem, arguing against the person making the argument rather than striking at the argument itself and what is supposedly wrong with it. Yes, I don't battle often and don't have any titles. But that has nothing to do with why I'm suggesting erasing permanent titles. It comes from thinking about what would make this place a lot more competitive and give titles a lot more prestige. Personally, this would make me want to battle again and seek a title and I know I'm not the only one.
If I had won a GC years ago and every time I logged on I still see my name in blue, I would feel like there's nothing else to accomplish, i've already reached and I'm still at the pinnacle. However, if I no longer have it because I didn't defend it in a subsequent GC and the site crowned a new top dog, the competitor in me would feel the urge to prove I'm still the top dog and knock off the new cat. It wouldn't hinder my interest at all, but that's just me.
As far as resetting the all-time rankings, it wouldn't make any sense unless we first come up with an alternative for what rankings are based on. Right now, they are based on battling activity. Macc is at number 1 or 2 because he drops a shitload of battles, not necessarily because he's the hardest. If we simply reset it and leave the same criteria, we'd only end up with the same thing.

[NOBLE]

The only people that want this are people with no titles? I guess people totally missed Illokwent and Erupt saying this is a good idea. And saying the only people that want this are people who don't currently battle is grabbing at straws. It's almost an ad hominem, arguing against the person making the argument rather than striking at the argument itself and what is supposedly wrong with it. Yes, I don't battle often and don't have any titles. But that has nothing to do with why I'm suggesting erasing permanent titles. It comes from thinking about what would make this place a lot more competitive and give titles a lot more prestige. Personally, this would make me want to battle again and seek a title and I know I'm not the only one.
If I had won a GC years ago and every time I logged on I still see my name in blue, I would feel like there's nothing else to accomplish, i've already reached and I'm still at the pinnacle. However, if I no longer have it because I didn't defend it in a subsequent GC and the site crowned a new top dog, the competitor in me would feel the urge to prove I'm still the top dog and knock off the new cat. It wouldn't hinder my interest at all, but that's just me.
As far as resetting the all-time rankings, it wouldn't make any sense unless we first come up with an alternative for what rankings are based on. Right now, they are based on battling activity. Macc is at number 1 or 2 because he drops a shitload of battles, not necessarily because he's the hardest. If we simply reset it and leave the same criteria, we'd only end up with the same thing.

And make streaks expire after a period of inactivity

And make streaks expire after a period of inactivity

[RULE]

Originally Posted by Row

And make streaks expire after a period of inactivity

This would be a good idea too. Sometimes getting those flames make people too afraid to battle and risk losing them.

1/

[RULE]

Originally Posted by Row

And make streaks expire after a period of inactivity

This would be a good idea too. Sometimes getting those flames make people too afraid to battle and risk losing them.

1/

[Esso]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

And saying the only people that want this are people who don't currently battle is grabbing at straws. It's almost an ad hominem, arguing against the person making the argument rather than striking at the argument itself and what is supposedly wrong with it.

Personally, this would make me want to battle again and seek a title and I know I'm not the only one. If I had won a GC years ago and every time I logged on I still see my name in blue, I would feel like there's nothing else to accomplish, i've already reached and I'm still at the pinnacle. However, if I no longer have it because I didn't defend it in a subsequent GC and the site crowned a new top dog, the competitor in me would feel the urge to prove I'm still the top dog and knock off the new cat. .

It's not really an argument against you as much as it is your opinion that it would bolster activity. If the active people are saying it would make them less active, we are already assured of seeing less activity if a change goes into place. We have no confirmation at all though that it would make anyone else actually battle more.

What's the end game here? To inspire the Erupt's and Illokwent's and other champs of the past to come back to battling? Maybe it will work with a couple but just like tons of folks come outta the woodwork for the GC they'll eventually leave again because there's a reason most of em are inactive to begin with. Why would you want to alienate those who are currently active for the sake of trying to light a fire underneath those that have obviously moved on?

[Esso]

Originally Posted by NOBLE

And saying the only people that want this are people who don't currently battle is grabbing at straws. It's almost an ad hominem, arguing against the person making the argument rather than striking at the argument itself and what is supposedly wrong with it.

Personally, this would make me want to battle again and seek a title and I know I'm not the only one. If I had won a GC years ago and every time I logged on I still see my name in blue, I would feel like there's nothing else to accomplish, i've already reached and I'm still at the pinnacle. However, if I no longer have it because I didn't defend it in a subsequent GC and the site crowned a new top dog, the competitor in me would feel the urge to prove I'm still the top dog and knock off the new cat. .

It's not really an argument against you as much as it is your opinion that it would bolster activity. If the active people are saying it would make them less active, we are already assured of seeing less activity if a change goes into place. We have no confirmation at all though that it would make anyone else actually battle more.

What's the end game here? To inspire the Erupt's and Illokwent's and other champs of the past to come back to battling? Maybe it will work with a couple but just like tons of folks come outta the woodwork for the GC they'll eventually leave again because there's a reason most of em are inactive to begin with. Why would you want to alienate those who are currently active for the sake of trying to light a fire underneath those that have obviously moved on?

[ILLoKWENT]

Originally Posted by Esso

It's not really an argument against you as much as it is your opinion that it would bolster activity. If the active people are saying it would make them less active, we are already assured of seeing less activity if a change goes into place. We have no confirmation at all though that it would make anyone else actually battle more.

What's the end game here? To inspire the Erupt's and Illokwent's and other champs of the past to come back to battling? Maybe it will work with a couple but just like tons of folks come outta the woodwork for the GC they'll eventually leave again because there's a reason most of em are inactive to begin with. Why would you want to alienate those who are currently active for the sake of trying to light a fire underneath those that have obviously moved on?

. At this point you are assuming that those that say they won't be thrilled with defensible titles and won't have the motivation to participate is a fair assumption but still speculative... There has to be a reason why @NOBLE would even concieve this narrative in the first place.. it's because activity is still weak ATM, and he is proactively thinking of something DIFFERENT AND REFRESHING.not the same old tried and true formula that everyone's grown accustomed to and tired of . face facts people keep complaining they want new stuff, yet when someone puts out something that actually would be fun and different, it takes someone out of their comfort zone.. trust me, activity will not diminish, because frankly it ain't that great now, but can only get better. And those that say they'll not battle are full of shit, because at the end of the day, this is still the best structured battle site and their competitive spirit will prevail..you need to have more faith in trying something different.. @NOBLE when your ready to do this yank all my titles, I may have to come out of retirement to show these yungins how it's done again

[ILLoKWENT]

Originally Posted by Esso

It's not really an argument against you as much as it is your opinion that it would bolster activity. If the active people are saying it would make them less active, we are already assured of seeing less activity if a change goes into place. We have no confirmation at all though that it would make anyone else actually battle more.

What's the end game here? To inspire the Erupt's and Illokwent's and other champs of the past to come back to battling? Maybe it will work with a couple but just like tons of folks come outta the woodwork for the GC they'll eventually leave again because there's a reason most of em are inactive to begin with. Why would you want to alienate those who are currently active for the sake of trying to light a fire underneath those that have obviously moved on?

. At this point you are assuming that those that say they won't be thrilled with defensible titles and won't have the motivation to participate is a fair assumption but still speculative... There has to be a reason why @NOBLE would even concieve this narrative in the first place.. it's because activity is still weak ATM, and he is proactively thinking of something DIFFERENT AND REFRESHING.not the same old tried and true formula that everyone's grown accustomed to and tired of . face facts people keep complaining they want new stuff, yet when someone puts out something that actually would be fun and different, it takes someone out of their comfort zone.. trust me, activity will not diminish, because frankly it ain't that great now, but can only get better. And those that say they'll not battle are full of shit, because at the end of the day, this is still the best structured battle site and their competitive spirit will prevail..you need to have more faith in trying something different.. @NOBLE when your ready to do this yank all my titles, I may have to come out of retirement to show these yungins how it's done again